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just now reading major media complaining about how long it's taking to get the vaccines rolled out

I guess you can't win - just start lining em up and shoving it in arms

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Biden has already labeled the rollout a failure...saying today that it is taking too long and not properly executed.

since the easy way (strict prioritization based on age) is insufficiently woke, we've got to do it the hard way

glad Texas is opening it up. get it in as many 65+ arms as soon as possible.

here's the current NY state plan



you want the clusterf root cause, start here

I'm sure the local bureaucracy handles all of these rules and tranches with complete efficiency

especially all the layers required to get to the actual vulnerable population - 65+

Phase 1 seems pretty damn simple. My friends in healthcare in NYC are getting emails with links to sign-up times that are available to them. They're showing up for the vaccine and getting it. It's my understanding that it's working the same way in the LTC facilities.
What you want to argue is whether they prioritized correctly, not whether they are rolling it out efficiently.

Editing to say I thought we were in the rollout thread, not the protocol thread.

But, since this IS the protocol thread, I think it's appropriate to point out that New York is following the CDC's guidance which reflects the suggestions of the epidemiologists that I follow. While the risk of death is lower for those under 65, hospitalization is certainly possible. Those who are serving the public are at greater risk than a 66yo who is retired and able to stay home. I'm not sure why we wouldn't want to offer protection to those who are keeping the country running by working in public service jobs.

Tabasco said:

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What do the different color dots mean on that map. I see no legend on the mobile.

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Just type of facility... clinic vs pharmacy vs... there is a legend somewhere, but used a laptop.

According to Collin County Health, they don't have vaccines available to the public or for healthcare workers. The map coordinated by the state says they have the vaccine. What are they doing with it? Any ideas?

"For healthcare workers who wish to receive the vaccine, please speak to your employer regarding their vaccination plans. For healthcare facilities who wish have their staff vaccinated, the following options are as available:

• Contact your parent hospital to request to be included in their vaccination plan.
• Register to become a provider of the COVID-19 vaccine for your staff, patients, and/or community. You can find information on the necessary steps to enroll at the DSHS website by clicking here. The minimum quantity of vaccine that can be received as a provider is 100 doses. If you do not have 100 staff members or patients to vaccinate, it is recommended that you find other facilities in similar circumstances and register together.
• Find a pharmacy or clinic that is already registered as a vaccine provider that is able to vaccinate your organization."

well

given how ****ty our bureaucracy is

maybe start just with age. that would be easier to manage and more directed at the people most likely to die.

crazy I know

you could even use SS numbers to further tranche it out within age cohorts

I'm just thinking about how the military would it if we were taking this seriously

Silky Johnston said:

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I received the vaccine and I am not a frontline worker, but work for a group affiliated with a hospital. Randomly received an email asking me if I wanted to sign up for the vaccine with available time slots. There were far more open slots than taken slots. I bet if you polled 10 people, 4-5 would say they would not take the vaccine if they were offered it.

My other theory is that the hospital thawed out a bunch of vaccines and didn't have as many takers, so they had to open it up so that they didn't trash all the unused vaccine.

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This is what I'm seeing where I work in East Texas. We had 40-50% of our healthcare workers decide not to get it (100% of doctors got it) so there were plenty for support staff of the clinic (Management, IT, etc) as well as a select few "outside" providers being offered the vaccine. For example, my wife. We had 'extra' because of the ~50% acceptance mentioned above so it was offered to her when I got mine, she's a dentist.

So a combination of 'left overs' and connections seems to be how some people are getting it. The effectiveness/fairness of that is debatable, but I do like the shotgun analogy above. Just get this thing going, it's going to be an absolute cluster regardless.

Side effects so far: Inability to not tell family members how excited we were to get it. Also, extremely sore arms.

What kind of proof do you need to show you have a qualifying underlying health issue?

more supply likely on the way

My mom signed her and my dad up for 1B at their local Brookshires. Not sure of the wait.

How did they sign up? We've tried calling Brookshires over and over and it's always busy. Did they just go in?

Looks like the governor has already authorized vaccination of over 65 and those with medical conditions (is this the 1B group?) due to doses already received not being distributed fast enough.

He has, but we've been calling and searching since 7 this morning and no one has it to distribute. It sounds like you had to know someone to get it quickly. Most places are hoping for mid-January, which isn't terrible, but I know their staff is swamped by calls right now.

cc_ag92 said:

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He has, but we've been calling and searching since 7 this morning and no one has it to distribute. It sounds like you had to know someone to get it quickly. Most places are hoping for mid-January, which isn't terrible, but I know their staff is swamped by calls right now.

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Yea HEB is still doing 1a only, and I haven't had any luck with ut health science

cc_ag92 said:

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He has, but we've been calling and searching since 7 this morning and no one has it to distribute. It sounds like you had to know someone to get it quickly. Most places are hoping for mid-January, which isn't terrible, but I know their staff is swamped by calls right now.

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My sister got it at an HEB in the Austin area. She was eligible in the first group, but your issue is not the group you may be but just finding a location with vaccine in stock apparently. Where are you located, what city?

You're correct. It's locating someone who has it.

We called for a few hours this morning and found a doctor in Mesquite who scheduled us for next Wednesday.

We called every provider listed on the DSHS website located in Collin County, Rockwall County, and a few in Hunt County and Dallas County. We only found the one. No one knows when they'll receive more. They're hoping for mid-January. This rollout is definitely moving slowly.

We're in Plano. If you have any other insights, I'm happy to hear them. I'd love to get my parents and aunts and uncles vaccinated.

cc_ag92 said:

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You're correct. It's locating someone who has it.

We called for a few hours this morning and found a doctor in Mesquite who scheduled us for next Wednesday.

We called every provider listed on the DSHS website located in Collin County, Rockwall County, and a few in Hunt County and Dallas County. We only found the one. No one knows when they'll receive more. They're hoping for mid-January. This rollout is definitely moving slowly.

We're in Plano. If you have any other insights, I'm happy to hear them. I'd love to get my parents and aunts and uncles vaccinated.

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Not sure if this would help or just be redundant to the DSHS website you used, but found this for Dallas area: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/12/28/when-and-where-could-i-get-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-texas/

Good luck!

When I went yesterday the pharmacist said they only had 100 does and they were going through them very fast. They said they were getting a bunch more next week. Keep calling to get on the list if you want it.

Thanks so much!!

Seems to be a total cluster. My mom searched though a Texas gov website, identified her county by its shape (since they weren't labeled) and found that the HEB three blocks from them had some vaccine. My dad went in and the put my granddad (94) and both my parents (67, 68) on the list and said they could get their shots next week.

I wish this was going better, but it looks like if you really want to get it soon you should start hunting down available doses and badgering the pharmacist to give it to you.