They do not. The one's that they would need to "protect" should already be vaccinated.rononeill said:
So, for the unvaccinated, why do they still need masks? To protect themselves? Others?
It's important that we respect people's personal decisions. I respect yours. We all deserve to live in the land of the free.Pinche Abogado said:
I am not vaccinated and I will not wear a mask.
If you're not a "Covered entity" (Doctor, pharmacist, clinic, hospital, dentist, etc) then HIPAA doesn't apply to you. If a stranger asks you a question about your health, and you choose to reveal that information, that's up to you. If a family member asks your doctor about your health, and they reveal that information, they could be in violation of HIPAA.P.U.T.U said:I thought about that, its just a slippery slope. There are already people that choose not to get the vaccine due to medical or religious reasons. Next comes vaccine passport to get into places. I mean I understand with more dangerous diseases but when the majority of people under 50 will be just fine its crazy to me. And this is coming from a vaccinated personORAggieFan said:P.U.T.U said:
Honest question, where does HIPAA come in with all of this? Go to a sporting event and have to show that you are vaccinated to take your mask off? That sounds like a direct violation
You can choose not to show, no violations at all. Not saying they should do it that way, just not HIPAA issues.
I would think, legally, if the CDC states that the vaccinated no longer need masks inside or out, there won't be much a person could do to sue a company from that point moving. Now, that might not be the case with situations that happened before when the CDC masking guidelines were still in place and someone sues. What would the statute of limitations on something like that be?riverrataggie said:rononeill said:
So, for the unvaccinated, why do they still need masks? To protect themselves? Others?
There are multiple scenarios here
B2C and B2B and corporate offices. For B2C, once signs go down nature will just take its course. Might be ugly see Twitter but it will work itself out.
B2B and corporate offices where public just doesnt enter at will it's all liability and they will ease restrictions slower. Or make their people sign a waiver. But it will be all about liability.
Genie is out of bottle.
There were are lot of folks who were supportive of some pretty draconian measures. I'd argue that those folks don't DESERVE the land of the free at all.ATXAg75 said:It's important that we respect people's personal decisions. I respect yours. We all deserve to live in the land of the free.Pinche Abogado said:
I am not vaccinated and I will not wear a mask.
Agree, about time for this. The messaging was terrible leading up to this. It was as if getting the vaccine does nothing to reduce your chances of infection because masks, distancing, etc. were all still required.beerad12man said:
Push to get 5-10% more of adults on the fence vaccinated. No doubt. They've known all along masks were of minimal to no benefit, so it doesn't matter if some lie about it.
Capitol Ag said:I would think, legally, if the CDC states that the vaccinated no longer need masks inside or out, there won't be much a person could do to sue a company from that point moving. Now, that might not be the case with situations that happened before when the CDC masking guidelines were still in place and someone sues. What would the statute of limitations on something like that be?riverrataggie said:rononeill said:
So, for the unvaccinated, why do they still need masks? To protect themselves? Others?
There are multiple scenarios here
B2C and B2B and corporate offices. For B2C, once signs go down nature will just take its course. Might be ugly see Twitter but it will work itself out.
B2B and corporate offices where public just doesnt enter at will it's all liability and they will ease restrictions slower. Or make their people sign a waiver. But it will be all about liability.
Genie is out of bottle.
planoaggie123 said:Fireman said:
Cards seem to be pretty easy to obtain. Looks like you could even fill one out yourself. See link below.
Awesome. I am officially a card carrying member of the community!
Doesn't everyone commit 3 felonies a day anyway?Infection_Ag11 said:planoaggie123 said:Fireman said:
Cards seem to be pretty easy to obtain. Looks like you could even fill one out yourself. See link below.
Awesome. I am officially a card carrying member of the community!
Just as a caution, falsifying such a vaccine card is technically a federal felony. The likelihood of ever being in a scenario where lying about this risks meaningful consequences are very small, and even then the chances of getting caught even smaller, but such things aren't unheard of. This isn't like speeding hoping you don't get caught.
Wife is a pharmacist and it was the first thing she brought up. I am just a pee-ontraxter said:If you're not a "Covered entity" (Doctor, pharmacist, clinic, hospital, dentist, etc) then HIPAA doesn't apply to you. If a stranger asks you a question about your health, and you choose to reveal that information, that's up to you. If a family member asks your doctor about your health, and they reveal that information, they could be in violation of HIPAA.P.U.T.U said:I thought about that, its just a slippery slope. There are already people that choose not to get the vaccine due to medical or religious reasons. Next comes vaccine passport to get into places. I mean I understand with more dangerous diseases but when the majority of people under 50 will be just fine its crazy to me. And this is coming from a vaccinated personORAggieFan said:P.U.T.U said:
Honest question, where does HIPAA come in with all of this? Go to a sporting event and have to show that you are vaccinated to take your mask off? That sounds like a direct violation
You can choose not to show, no violations at all. Not saying they should do it that way, just not HIPAA issues.
Infection_Ag11 said:planoaggie123 said:Fireman said:
Cards seem to be pretty easy to obtain. Looks like you could even fill one out yourself. See link below.
Awesome. I am officially a card carrying member of the community!
Just as a caution, falsifying such a vaccine card is technically a federal felony. The likelihood of ever being in a scenario where lying about this risks meaningful consequences are very small, and even then the chances of getting caught even smaller, but such things aren't unheard of. This isn't like speeding hoping you don't get caught.
Thought I heard yes to that but don't understand it.98Ag99Grad said:
Still required to wear while flying or not?
The rule is now simple: get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.
— President Biden (@POTUS) May 13, 2021
The choice is yours.
I just don't get this as a logical thing (I know, none of this is logical). It should be one's personal responsibility, no? Get the vaccine or not, if you don't and get covid how is that anyone else's problem?riverrataggie said:Capitol Ag said:I would think, legally, if the CDC states that the vaccinated no longer need masks inside or out, there won't be much a person could do to sue a company from that point moving. Now, that might not be the case with situations that happened before when the CDC masking guidelines were still in place and someone sues. What would the statute of limitations on something like that be?riverrataggie said:rononeill said:
So, for the unvaccinated, why do they still need masks? To protect themselves? Others?
There are multiple scenarios here
B2C and B2B and corporate offices. For B2C, once signs go down nature will just take its course. Might be ugly see Twitter but it will work itself out.
B2B and corporate offices where public just doesnt enter at will it's all liability and they will ease restrictions slower. Or make their people sign a waiver. But it will be all about liability.
Genie is out of bottle.
Don't know and good point. But that would assume 100% are vaccinated. Regardless would be a nightmare for a company to deal with. So my thinking is companies will error on side of caution.
beerad12man said:The rule is now simple: get vaccinated or wear a mask until you do.
— President Biden (@POTUS) May 13, 2021
The choice is yours.
And some think this is anything other than extortion to push more vaccinations?
88planoAg said:I just don't get this as a logical thing (I know, none of this is logical). It should be one's personal responsibility, no? Get the vaccine or not, if you don't and get covid how is that anyone else's problem?riverrataggie said:Capitol Ag said:I would think, legally, if the CDC states that the vaccinated no longer need masks inside or out, there won't be much a person could do to sue a company from that point moving. Now, that might not be the case with situations that happened before when the CDC masking guidelines were still in place and someone sues. What would the statute of limitations on something like that be?riverrataggie said:rononeill said:
So, for the unvaccinated, why do they still need masks? To protect themselves? Others?
There are multiple scenarios here
B2C and B2B and corporate offices. For B2C, once signs go down nature will just take its course. Might be ugly see Twitter but it will work itself out.
B2B and corporate offices where public just doesnt enter at will it's all liability and they will ease restrictions slower. Or make their people sign a waiver. But it will be all about liability.
Genie is out of bottle.
Don't know and good point. But that would assume 100% are vaccinated. Regardless would be a nightmare for a company to deal with. So my thinking is companies will error on side of caution.
B-1 83 said:
The virtue signaling on the SeeBS news site is hilarious from those saying they'll still wear them to protect others......
Maybe they just have bad breath?DG-Ag said:B-1 83 said:
The virtue signaling on the SeeBS news site is hilarious from those saying they'll still wear them to protect others......
I'd you're vaccinated what are you protecting them from?
Capitol Ag said:Maybe they just have bad breath?DG-Ag said:B-1 83 said:
The virtue signaling on the SeeBS news site is hilarious from those saying they'll still wear them to protect others......
I'd you're vaccinated what are you protecting them from?
I think stores will. People aren't jammed in there like airplanes, busses, etc.GEA89 said:
Won't change much, restaurants, stores, airlines, etc. will have no idea who is vaccinated or not so they won't relax their rules anytime soon.
Just wait... the ID card is coming soon.
It's only 94% effective! You could be "COVID Mary" and not know it!DG-Ag said:B-1 83 said:
The virtue signaling on the SeeBS news site is hilarious from those saying they'll still wear them to protect others......
I'd you're vaccinated what are you protecting them from?
funny how it took you this long to realize this has always been a political football (NPI measures -- not the virus to be clear), not about science or public health.cone said:100%beerad12man said:
Push to get 5-10% more of adults on the fence vaccinated. No doubt. They've known all along masks were of minimal to no benefit, so it doesn't matter if some lie about it.
they went ahead and pulled the ripcord
funny what a really bad jobs report and a bad CPI number will do for you
Not getting the vaccine, not planning on getting the vaccine, not wearing mask, not planning on wearing mask, not dead from COVID, not planning on dying from COVIDKlinkerAg11 said:
My good friend who wasn't interested in taking the vaccine is now taking the vaccine after I sent him the link posted.
This will get people to take the vaccine that are on the fence, not free beer or fries.
TexasAggie008 said:
Everyone make sure to ask any person wearing a mask in a non-mandatory zone "what will it take for you to embrace science and get the vax?"
Mask wearing = vax skeptics , per the CDC. No other reason to voluntarily wear one
Infection_Ag11 said:planoaggie123 said:Fireman said:
Cards seem to be pretty easy to obtain. Looks like you could even fill one out yourself. See link below.
Awesome. I am officially a card carrying member of the community!
Just as a caution, falsifying such a vaccine card is technically a federal felony. The likelihood of ever being in a scenario where lying about this risks meaningful consequences are very small, and even then the chances of getting caught even smaller, but such things aren't unheard of. This isn't like speeding hoping you don't get caught.
