Spiking in Waco

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In reply to Jbob04 • 9:47a, 7/21/21
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Jbob04 said:
They are healthcare workers. Catching something from a patient is one of the known risks of being a healthcare worker. Maybe they should find a new career if they are afraid of patients.
it seems like many of them are

especially low level staff
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In reply to bay fan • 9:48a, 7/21/21
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F16 is an echo chamber!

Please stay off this board so we can have our echo chamber!
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In reply to Teslag • 9:50a, 7/21/21
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I totally agree it can be politically motivated. I'm saying the decision becomes that much easier when you know that you have the best healthcare system in the world to bail you out if you do get sick.

When you don't necessarily trust your local doctor in normal times, having access to a safe vaccine makes that much more sense.
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In reply to Jbob04 • 9:58a, 7/21/21
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Jbob04 said:
They are healthcare workers. Catching something from a patient is one of the known risks of being a healthcare worker. Maybe they should find a new career if they are afraid of patients.
Yes, maybe they should and are you really so short sighted you don't see the problem there?

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In reply to bay fan • 10:01a, 7/21/21
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bay fan said:

I have been told my friends daughter, a 30 year old, marathon running (not fat or sick), transplant nurse who died March 2020 of Covid didn't and recently my favorite poster on here absolutely insisted my daughters room mate didn't get reinfected. What's the point? Go back to 16 since COVID isn't a problem and leave discussion to those who want to discuss it.
My friend lost his 28 year old wife to cancer. Imagine hearing the screams of "momma, momma" from their two year old daughter as they rolled her casket away.


I have anecdotal stories, too, but I'm not going to leverage them to make my point.
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In reply to bay fan • 10:01a, 7/21/21
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bay fan said:
gougler08 said:
How much of this is seasonal? When looking across multiple states (north and south) they seem to be following the same first peaks in 2021 vs. 2020 just starting 2-3 weeks later. Sure seems like this is going to be a seasonal thing?
What season over the last 6 has not been Covid season?
Seems that spring 2021 and fall 2020 weren't a big deal in southern states




As for northern states, summer 2020 and 2021 are non-issues





Generally, the geography of the state seems to at least play a decent part of when we'll see increased cases, at least looking at top 10 impacted states in the US
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In reply to GAC06 • 10:01a, 7/21/21
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F16 is an echo chamber!

Please stay off this board so we can have our echo chamber!
I do. Now you can stay off this one right?
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In reply to Old Buffalo • 10:05a, 7/21/21
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bay fan said:

I have been told my friends daughter, a 30 year old, marathon running (not fat or sick), transplant nurse who died March 2020 of Covid didn't and recently my favorite poster on here absolutely insisted my daughters room mate didn't get reinfected. What's the point? Go back to 16 since COVID isn't a problem and leave discussion to those who want to discuss it.
My friend lost his 28 year old wife to cancer. Imagine hearing the screams of "momma, momma" from their two year old daughter as they rolled her casket away.


I have anecdotal stories, too, but I'm not going to leverage them to make my point.
If there was a cancer vaccine I'd get that too. How do you link a terrible, unpreventable death to a nearly completely preventable one? Yet the difference is, I am sorry for your friend and am not telling you it didn't happen.
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In reply to gougler08 • 10:13a, 7/21/21
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Just like previous waves, it will be 6-10 weeks of a quick incline, then go down. All across the world. Regardless of restrictions, masks, etc. Some areas might re-instate masks and that coincide with the decline naturally. But the areas that don't re-instate them will see the same decline refuting that. And the waves will never be as big as the one last November/December
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In reply to bay fan • 10:15a, 7/21/21
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bay fan said:
GAC06 said:
F16 is an echo chamber!

Please stay off this board so we can have our echo chamber!
I do. Now you can stay off this one right?
He's saying this board is the echo chamber you claim F16 to be. You were also ran off of F74 because you hate dissenting opinions, and people who choose to live life differently than you.
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In reply to bay fan • 10:16a, 7/21/21
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bay fan said:
Old Buffalo said:
bay fan said:

I have been told my friends daughter, a 30 year old, marathon running (not fat or sick), transplant nurse who died March 2020 of Covid didn't and recently my favorite poster on here absolutely insisted my daughters room mate didn't get reinfected. What's the point? Go back to 16 since COVID isn't a problem and leave discussion to those who want to discuss it.
My friend lost his 28 year old wife to cancer. Imagine hearing the screams of "momma, momma" from their two year old daughter as they rolled her casket away.


I have anecdotal stories, too, but I'm not going to leverage them to make my point.
If there was a cancer vaccine I'd get that too. How do you link a terrible, unpreventable death to a nearly completely preventable one? Yet the difference is, I am sorry for your friend and am not telling you it didn't happen.


Cancer is often preventable. So is heart disease. Humans are fallible. Running someone's nose in their death because they smoked, over ate and didn't exercise, or didn't get vaccinated is repugnant.

We have a lot of people dying of covid because they live unhealthy irresponsible lives. And we have many dying bevuEe they won't get a safe effective vaccine.
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In reply to bay fan • 10:18a, 7/21/21
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bay fan said:
GAC06 said:
F16 is an echo chamber!

Please stay off this board so we can have our echo chamber!
I do. Now you can stay off this one right?


This board was set up for information regarding covid. It wasn't meant to be a contrast or safe haven from another board. As long as people are presenting accurate data and information they should be welcome here.
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In reply to PJYoung • 10:39a, 7/21/21
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PJYoung said:
This thread is a perfect example of why TexAgs doctors hardly post on this forum any more.

The politics board posters can't help themselves.


Yes, it is sad. I value the information you and the doctors have provided on this forum.
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In reply to beerad12man • 10:44a, 7/21/21
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beerad12man said:
Just like previous waves, it will be 6-10 weeks of a quick incline, then go down. All across the world. Regardless of restrictions, masks, etc. Some areas might re-instate masks and that coincide with the decline naturally. But the areas that don't re-instate them will see the same decline refuting that. And the waves will never be as big as the one last November/December
Agreed, which is why I posed the original question around is seasonality a driver (or the driver) of cases spiking? I'd like to get doctor's feedback on it too
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10:45a, 7/21/21
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All mask studies have shown that the effectivity of them is inside the statistical uncertainty of the given study. So both statements of they work or they dont work are wrong, "statistically"
https://i.postimg.cc/rpHKr9JQ/IMG-0770.jpg
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In reply to Diggity • 11:00a, 7/21/21
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Diggity said:
it's an interesting dichotomy that I've noticed when traveling or talking to people from other countries.

Folks in countries with crap healthcare are scared ****less of Covid and are clamoring to get the vaccine, which they have limited access to.

Conversely, you have people in the US who have easy access to the vaccine but don't want it. It's not a stretch to conclude that our confidence in the quality and efficacy of our hospitals is actually hindering our ability to convince more people to get vaccinated.

It might be harder to shrug off the potential effects of getting a rough covid case if you had zero confidence in the hospitals to treat you in the worst case scenario.
This is me to a certain extent. I live in the UK and have through all this NHS covid debacle.

I'm a healthy skinny 40 year old, and I really don't want to get covid in this country. I'm not crazy worried or anything since luckily I have private insurance and I know I'm very low risk profile, but if I was common people dependent on the NHS, I'd think a lot differently.

If any of you data dorks want to go analyze (analyse?) some good data, check out https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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In reply to Teslag • 11:37a, 7/21/21
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Salute The Marines said:
bay fan said:
GAC06 said:
F16 is an echo chamber!

Please stay off this board so we can have our echo chamber!
I do. Now you can stay off this one right?


This board was set up for information regarding covid. It wasn't meant to be a contrast or safe haven from another board. As long as people are presenting accurate data and information they should be welcome here.


Nothing more accurate than someone saying "don't come to my emergency room". That's good solid data.
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 12:01p, 7/21/21
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backintexas2013 said:
Salute The Marines said:
bay fan said:
GAC06 said:
F16 is an echo chamber!

Please stay off this board so we can have our echo chamber!
I do. Now you can stay off this one right?


This board was set up for information regarding covid. It wasn't meant to be a contrast or safe haven from another board. As long as people are presenting accurate data and information they should be welcome here.


Nothing more accurate than someone saying "don't come to my emergency room". That's good solid data.


You know how some doctors have horrible bedside manner? This is a good example of how it happens.
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12:20p, 7/21/21
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Woah, 10-20 cases in an area that services 500K+. Breath taking.
Covidians, Communists, CNN, FOX, and all other MSM are enemies of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to Spotted Ag • 12:21p, 7/21/21
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Spotted Ag said:
Woah, 10-20 cases in an area that services 500K+. Breath taking.


Yep, OP is the only doctor in Waco.
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In reply to PJYoung • 12:24p, 7/21/21
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By questioning a comment like what was posted?
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12:36p, 7/21/21
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All of this is noise. To me it's pretty simple. 99% of those hospitalized were not vaccinated. So get vaccinated if you aren't already.
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12:39p, 7/21/21
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The level of animosity on this thread is depressing.
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In reply to aginlakeway • 12:48p, 7/21/21
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Do you believe in individual responsibility to go along with "individual rights"?
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In reply to 88planoAg • 12:51p, 7/21/21
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None of the vaccines are 100% effective. So there is always some risk, albeit small. Not to mention the small risk for the healthcare provider of becoming an asymptomatic carrier even if they are vaccinated.
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 12:52p, 7/21/21
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backintexas2013 said:
By questioning a comment like what was posted?
Ha no.

This wave that was 100% preventable if our vaccination rate was better (after the stuff they went thru in the past year).
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In reply to wessimo • 12:53p, 7/21/21
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wessimo said:
The level of animosity on this thread is depressing.

Welcome to Forum 16.
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In reply to PJYoung • 12:58p, 7/21/21
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PJYoung said:
wessimo said:
The level of animosity on this thread is depressing.

Welcome to Forum 16.
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In reply to gunan01 • 12:58p, 7/21/21
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gunan01 said:
Do you believe in individual responsibility to go along with "individual rights"?

Of course. That's why I got the vaccine. So has everyone that I know.

My issue was with the statement that someone who did not get the vaccinate should not go to the ER if they are deathly sick with covid.
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In reply to wessimo • 1:00p, 7/21/21
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wessimo said:
The level of animosity on this thread is depressing.

Welcome to forum 84
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In reply to aginlakeway • 1:04p, 7/21/21
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Then you don't really believe in individual responsibility, you just say you do
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In reply to gunan01 • 1:08p, 7/21/21
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gunan01 said:
Then you don't really believe in individual responsibility, you just say you do

Thank you for telling me what I believe in.

Again, I simply believe that if someone is sick and they go to the ER, they should get treated. Even if they have covid and didn't get vaccinated.
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In reply to PJYoung • 1:24p, 7/21/21
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PJYoung said:
wessimo said:
The level of animosity on this thread is depressing.

Welcome to Forum 16.

I honestly think some of you see F16 under every rock and behind every shadow.
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1:24p, 7/21/21
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WTF? Did someone link this thread on F16? I'm seeing all sorts of new people here.
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1:25p, 7/21/21
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I'm glad I watchlisted this thread
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