What a finish!
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Last: 7 hrs ago by Bunk Moreland
All those teammates did that to themselves.
Denny keeps himself and the 23 from winning and allows Chase Elliott to win it. 
Well that was something
I bet Bubba wants to cuss out Hamlin. Let's see if he's diplomatic.
Hamlin will be pissy about Elliot.
Hamlin will be pissy about Elliot.
Oh ****, I'm going to have be on Bubbas side again!
Mathguy64 said:
I bet Bubba wants to cuss out Hamlin. Let's see if he's diplomatic.
Hamlin will be pissy about Elliot.
He'll explain it exactly from only his POV on the podcast and give 700 reasons why he did what he did. But what he won't do is accept blame.
Called him a dumbass
Bubba really wanted to tell Hamlin off.
Hamlin wanted to cry.
Hamlin wanted to cry.
Hamlin wanted win 60 so bad he forgot the bigger picture. He didn't need to win. Bubba did. 26 below the cut going to the Roval is not good for him.
Denny Hamlin on having no power steering at the end and the move on the final lap. As he was talking, Bubba Wallace did come over and said "good job." @NASCARONFOX pic.twitter.com/4eSCD78yt8
— Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) September 28, 2025
Bubba Wallace shows his displeasure to team owner Denny Hamlin after the checkered flag. #NASCAR pic.twitter.com/belqTREHw0
— Noah Lewis (@Noah_Lewis1) September 28, 2025
How did @chaseelliott win this race?
— NASCAR (@NASCAR) September 28, 2025
Watch and find out! 👇 pic.twitter.com/C9oS4cLLWM
The Zane Smith onboard is WILD pic.twitter.com/Zd9Lh17q9A
— Nick Yeoman (@NYeoman) September 28, 2025
Standings going into the roval
Elliott - ADV
Blaney - ADV
Larson +54
Hamlin +48
Bell +44
Byron +40
Briscoe +21
Logano +13
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Chastain -13
Wallace -26
Reddick -29
Cindric -48
Elliott - ADV
Blaney - ADV
Larson +54
Hamlin +48
Bell +44
Byron +40
Briscoe +21
Logano +13
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Chastain -13
Wallace -26
Reddick -29
Cindric -48
23XI/FRM v NASCAR updates
23XI/FRM filed its motion for partial summary judgment last night asking the judge to rule on defining the market as "premier stock car racing "and that NASCAR has power over that market b/c it has dominant market share in a market characterized by high barriers to entry. https://t.co/QrdrlQAiG9
— Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) October 2, 2025
NASCAR also argues that because there is a four-year statute of limitations on antitrust claims, that b/c 23XI and FRM bought charter(s) before or in 2020, that they can't sue now saying charter provisions violate antitrust laws.
— Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) October 4, 2025
NASCAR filing today includes statements from several team owners urging the lawsuit be resolved in a way that keeps the charter system in place (if nascar loses the lawsuit, the charter system possible could be — but is not guaranteed to be — dismantled). Childress and Hendrick: https://t.co/rnlolAeXoe pic.twitter.com/uIaoQUvCGt
— Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) October 4, 2025
Joe Gibbs: “I have made it clear to both sides in this lawsuit that I do not want to be a witness and I think it’s important for this to be resolved before any real damage is done to the sport.” https://t.co/yH6AUz9Itw pic.twitter.com/CXZXFKQ3oT
— Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) October 4, 2025
NASCAR statement and 23XI/FRM attorney Jeffrey Kessler statement on NASCAR motion for summary judgment filed today, a filing with statements from several team owners/execs urging that the charter system remain and the case to be resolved: pic.twitter.com/8ZkAs4Gz41
— Bob Pockrass (@bobpockrass) October 4, 2025
The Drivers Meeting featured a replay of last weeks race end. Watching @dennyhamlin watch the replay with the drivers in the meeting was epic today! @CLTMotorSpdwy pic.twitter.com/rsiDBaJ1uJ
— Claire B Lang (@ClaireBLang) October 5, 2025
Cindric needed to win and Hocevar insures that's now impossible.
The 77 has made himself no friends this season.
The 77 has made himself no friends this season.
Meh. He should have been eliminated in the prior round for intentionally wrecking Ty Dillon at COTA, but NASCAR didn't do what was right and penalize him.
ETA: Hocevar has some personality that NASCAR needs.
ETA: Hocevar has some personality that NASCAR needs.
For example
#NASCAR... Here's some unexpected news for your Friday evening: @CarsonHocevar has apparently bought a @Chilis location in Portage, Michigan... pic.twitter.com/WG37N3YAWi
— Joseph Srigley (@joe_srigley) October 4, 2025
Carson Hocevar bought the Chili's restaurant in his hometown. Or at least, that's what he said on the internet. But you should never believe everything you see on the internet: pic.twitter.com/huGmJg033i
— Kelly Crandall (@KellyCrandall) October 4, 2025
"These tires are ****". SVG says that passing two guys to take the lead.
Bubba and Reddick are basically at the point where they have to win the race.
Logano and Chastain will come down to one last pit stop and who is willing to punt another car to take one or two spots of track position.
Logano and Chastain will come down to one last pit stop and who is willing to punt another car to take one or two spots of track position.
SVG is just so insanely good on road courses. He works the brakes better than any driver I've ever seen. If he can figure out ovals, oh my.
Chastain just screwed himself.
Oh Ross don't let Logano stay in this.
Logano just punted two cars at once.
****ing Logano
Chastain has nobody to blame but himself. Speeding on out road and the screw up exiting pit road.
Bunk Moreland said:
SVG is just so insanely good on road courses. He works the brakes better than any driver I've ever seen. If he can figure out ovals, oh my.
His road course prowess could be the straw that breaks the current playoff formats back.
****ing white bread.
You watch. He's going to win it all again.
You watch. He's going to win it all again.
Refreshing post race comments from Ross.
Ross owned it. And Joey sat there with his **** eating grin getting interviewed.
He hears the boos. Nobody respects his win last year and if it happens again this year NASCAR would be fools to continue this charade. You've got to find a way to award the best car and team of the season, or at least have them hold a massive advantage going into the final race(s). This isn't the PGAT. Nobody thinks the FedEx cup winner = golfer of the year.
I like the playoff system they have. I would change it from a one race final to a three race final. A short track, a 1.5 mile track and either a road course or Atlanta. It's a super speedway but it's not random like Daytona or Dega.
Agree. I'm not saying go back to a pure points system but the current model is off.
I would let the regular season points champion get an auto qualifier to the final round, then do playoffs like they have it until a 3 race "final" like you describe. Season champ + 3 or 4 more enter a 3 race final where points determine the win.
I would let the regular season points champion get an auto qualifier to the final round, then do playoffs like they have it until a 3 race "final" like you describe. Season champ + 3 or 4 more enter a 3 race final where points determine the win.
This is what I proposed last year basically trying to balance wins with points. If lower driver wins in the round of 16 they'd probably start behind in the round of 8/2nd round, but they could still have a chance via points.
Even if they don't do this, I'd be onboard with no points reset after each round, so you'd need to be consistent across the 10 races.
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If it was up to me, before I'd mess with the stages, I'd de-emphasize wins once it's down to 8. I think we need a better balance of wins versus consistent finishes. Pretty much everyone will have a win once it's down to 8, so I don't think a win is an auto advance. I don't think 1 win with 4 mediocre race finishes at 20-25 is better compared to say a top 5 finish with 3 top 10 finishes and a top 15.
Round 1 (Round of 16) - 4 races, like before winner advances and the remain slots filled by points, points reset after round
Round 2 (Round of 8) - 3 races of point accumulation only, Top 6 advance, no points reset after round 2
Round 3 (Round of 6) - 2 races of points accumulation only, Top 4 advance
Championship round - like before
Even if they don't do this, I'd be onboard with no points reset after each round, so you'd need to be consistent across the 10 races.
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