*** MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE *** [Staff message on OP]

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At 0:31 and 1:31, you see something giant emerging from an ocean.

Is this going to build off that Eternals movie nobody saw?
Thanks and gig'em
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That's the rumor. Apparently those celestials or whatever they're called are made up of some kind of special mineral that everyone's after?
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Macguffium? Its most valuable material in Hollywood
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TCTTS said:

That's the rumor. Apparently those celestials or whatever they're called are made up of some kind of special mineral that everyone's after?


The theory I've seen is adamantium
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Whos Juan said:

TCTTS said:

That's the rumor. Apparently those celestials or whatever they're called are made up of some kind of special mineral that everyone's after?


The theory I've seen is adamantium


That would be cool with the X-Men tie ins coming with Deadpool.
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I have tried and failed to watch the entire Eternals movie 3 times. It is like watching an late 80s/early 90s TV miniseries with a bunch of famous people wearing super suits.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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Oh my
Hell yeah! This gives me hope that the old MCU is coming back.

I love the real world military feel as in The Winter Soldier.
Looks really good.

I don't see it surpassing Winter Soldier, but it's definitely cut from the same mold and Harrison Ford looks like a fantastic pick. No offense to the late William Hurt, but Ford brings more personality, likability, and gravitas to the character. It also helps that he's played a President before. He could really be what takes this film to the next level.

I just hope they move on from the whole "throw Steve Rogers under the bus" thing and make it more about Sam being closer to the dedicated hero we remember from the original films as the next Cap.
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Yeah, I wouldn't expect it to surpass The Winter Soldier, which I rank behind only Infinity War and Endgame as tops in the MCU.
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According to Reddit, if you pause the trailer at a certain time you can see a presidential portrait of Leslie Nielsen

https://www.reddit.com/r/****tymoviedetails/comments/1e1knhm/in_captain_america_brave_new_world_2025_there_is/
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nickstro66 said:

According to Reddit, if you pause the trailer at a certain time you can see a presidential portrait of Leslie Nielsen

https://www.reddit.com/r/****tymoviedetails/comments/1e1knhm/in_captain_america_brave_new_world_2025_there_is/


Surely, you can't be serious?
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The Russo Brothers obviously knocked Infinity War and Endgame out of the park, but A) ever since, they've really shown their ass with bland if not terrible crap like Cherry and The Gray Man, and B) I was really hoping for new blood this go around. I don't know, to me, this just reeks of JJ Abrams returning to direct The Rise of Skywalker.
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I agree, it actually reeks of desperation on both sides.

Marvel: "LETS RECAPTURE THE MAGIC"
Russos: "No one likes anything else we've done..."

I mean, maybe it is just a perfect fit and the movies are great. The problem with marvel isn't just at the director level, its the fact that there are no CHARACTERS that anyone really cares about, save for a few. Infinity War and Endgame worked because the characters were already fleshed out and the Russos just had to stage manage it all (which they did in incredibly satisfying ways...not knocking the accomplishment). If they have to get 50+ characters into two movies AND make you love/like a lot of them at the same time, thats just an impossible lift...IMHO.
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I'm 100% on board because: (a) the Russo's make good MCU films, and (b) this means some other talented filmmaker won't be shelved while they work on these films.

Win win

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I didn't see cherry but has there been a Netflix movie that has been as good as a legacy studio movie? Is the reason the grand man sucks because it was Netflix? The expectations there perhaps just aren't necessarily the same as some of the legacy studios.
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I guess that's to say the top down culture there has more of a made for tv feel than the legacy studios.
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The Russo Brothers were basically given free rein and damn near an unlimited budget to do whatever the hell they wanted on The Gray Man. That's kind of Netflix's MO, to basically just get out of the way and let filmmakers do whatever they want, hence the amount of bad movies they put out. Turns out, as much as the traditional studios suck, they *do* provide crucial guardrails and often keep filmmakers from indulging their worst tendencies.

Without Feige at the helm, and the iconic Marvel branding to work with, the Russo Brothers proved to be pretty bad, and very bland filmmakers, as Cherry (made for Apple) was terrible and The Gray Man really was just the most generic, vanilla thing ever. I'm sure they'll do a serviceable if not good job again here, it's just kind of disappointing that Marvel couldn't find anyone else.
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This is the key.
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With Infinity War and Endgame, yes the characters were established and all they had to do was not screw it up. Which they did magnificently.

But don't forget that they also brought Captain America fully into the modern era with what many consider the best Captain America film but also one of the absolute best MCU entries - The Winter Soldier.

This may very well be a desperation move by all parties involved, but with the right story and screenplay and with characters that the audience gives a rip about, these next two Avengers movies will probably work out.
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Sea Speed said:

I didn't see cherry but has there been a Netflix movie that has been as good as a legacy studio movie? Is the reason the grand man sucks because it was Netflix? The expectations there perhaps just aren't necessarily the same as some of the legacy studios.
Extraction (which the Russos produced) was a lot of fun. You've got The Old Guard. The Killer, Glass Onion, The Irishman...there's been some good ones.
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Marcus and McFeely wrote the Gray Man, so I don't know what to believe anymore.
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When they directed Infinity Wars and Endgame, didn't they also let some of the other big directors have a say as well? (Favreau, Coogler, Gunn, Watts, etc)
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Director of Deadpool & Wolverine...

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Sea Speed said:

I didn't see cherry but has there been a Netflix movie that has been as good as a legacy studio movie? Is the reason the grand man sucks because it was Netflix? The expectations there perhaps just aren't necessarily the same as some of the legacy studios.


I thought the Ryan Reynolds sci fi one from a year ago was awesome.
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A lot more color/context from Jeff's newsletter tonight, and I admit he does make a convincing argument for the Russo's returning (basically, among other reasons, handling this many big-name actors is a very rare skill)...


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On last week's episode of The Hot Mic, my co-host John Rocha and I discussed the rumor I'd heard about Joe and Anthony Russo approaching Marvel to direct the next Avengers movie(s) and the studio turning the brothers down, as Kevin Feige had already made a list and was exploring those possibilities.

If that anecdote wasn't true, the Russos would've been hired a long time ago given that they were the obvious choice to continue this franchise, and Marvel wouldn't have waited until the last second - a week before Comic-Con - to make this deal.

On Monday, I heard from a good source that Marvel was struggling to find anyone else suitable for the high-profile gig(s), and it was looking like they would, indeed, go back to the Russos, with Feige all but begging on his hands and knees.

I was all set to report this on today's podcast at Noon today, and I let Rocha know ahead of time, but he cut a thumbnail that gave away our big plan, and then I shared it on social media, so it was both of our faults and sure enough, the Hollywood Reporter posted an "exclusive" story at 11:59 a.m.

Coincidence? I think not… but we'll circle back to that.

The fact is that Avengers 5 and 6 - whatever they wind up being called - are two of the biggest movies that Marvel has in development, and the studio needs them to be successful - not just financially, but creatively as well.

The studio is bringing back 66 characters and adding some new ones, I'm sure, so we're talking about needing a director who can wrangle 75 different personalities and egos.

Two heads, as they say, are better than one, and not only do the Russos know the terrain and how Feige & Co. work, but those 66 actors respect them.

You can't just throw anyone into the fire here, nor would most directors want the smoke, as much like hosting the Oscars, the cons may outweigh the pros. If you don't live up to past Avengers movies, or if you get fired before making it to the finish line, it could cost you work or even your career if you aren't careful.

You don't want to get fired from a blockbuster because you couldn't make it work, for when it comes time for a studio to hire a director for its next blockbuster, the exec in charge is going to remember that. And as someone who has been fired multiple times over tiddly-wink bull**** and now can't find a job, let me assure you, that is how it goes in this town full of talent.

I won't speculate as to why Shawn Levy didn't take this gig when it was offered to him search the internet and you'll find that I was the only person doubting Deadline's "dish" but I think it's smart of him to focus on landing the plane that is Stranger Thingsand then focusing on the Star Wars movie that Jonathan Tropper is writing for him - another story first reported by yours truly.

Frankly, Levy doesn't need the headache of an Avengers movie. He should already be bracing for what lies ahead on Star Wars, which rarely offers anyone a smooth experience, though I wish him the best of luck navigating those often choppy seas.

As for THR's scoop today, I owe their reporters an apology, as I - naturally - shot off my mouth on the podcast in frustration, when they were on the same story and just doing their jobs as journalists. If they made it as easy for me as I did on them today, I probably would've done the same thing.

After all, they could've posted at 11:58 or earlier… but they waited until as close as possible to our show's start time, possibly out of respect, and I suppose I should thank them for that.

Meanwhile, Deadline creditedThe Hot Mic anyway - they didn't have to do that, but thanks, guys! since we did all but announce that the Russos' return would be the topic of the show a couple of hours ahead of time, but whatever. People make mistakes, including me. You live and learn. Congrats to THR for having the balls to run an "early talks" story… though the story doesn't end there!

For starters, Deadline claims that the Russos are coming back to Marvel in a largercapacity than as directors-for-hire, which, to me, sounds like the brothers had leverage here and took advantage of it. The trade mentions them being involved "on variousfronts, with one of their first big priorities being the upcoming Avengers sequels," with current plans calling "for them to be involved in both films."

This makes sense, seeing as how the Russos' Marvel movies have grossed more than $6.6 billion worldwide, with Avengers: Endgame standing as the second-highest-grossing movie of all time with $2.79 billion.

Since leaving Marvel, the Russos directed Cherry for Apple TV+ and The Gray Man for Netflix, which also spent big bucks on their upcoming Chris Pratt-Millie Bobby Brownmovie The Electric State. Though Cherry (2021) and The Gray Man (2022) didn't resonate with the public as strongly as their Marvel movies, the Russos did produce Everything Everywhere All at Once, which went on to win Best Picture. They also produced Netflix's Extraction movies, which are both successful and pretty freakin' good, though their expensive Amazon series Citadel failed to move the needle.

The fifth Avengers movie already lost its title (The Kang Dynasty), its director (Destin Daniel Cretton), and its star, Jonathan Majors, who was relieved of Kang duty after being convicted of assault and harassment.

As of now, it's unclear whether it has lost screenwriter Michael Waldron as well, but I would imagine so, as rumors have been pointing that way for weeks, and Waldron wasn't mentioned in Deadline or THR's articles. How odd!

I bet that's because, as I was told today, the Russos are turning to their trusted Avengerswriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely. My source said that one of them is going to be writing Avengers 6, which begs the question… is the other working on Avengers 5 to perhaps speed up the process?

Did I only hear that one of them was writing Avengers 6 because they had some kind of falling out? Is one of them ill, God forbid, or do they need to tend to a family matter? Or perhaps one has plans to direct a movie of their own? I don't know, to be honest, and it's none of my business anyway - or yours. I'm just telling you what I heard, which is that one of them would be writing Avengers 6.

Of course, they could both be writing it, just as they both could be writing Avengers 5… or rewriting/polishing it, for that matter. Time is of the essence here, so I don't know if Marvel has the luxury of starting from scratch, and Waldron may have delivered a usable draft that the Russos can help revise.

The brothers may have agreed to take the reins of Avengers 5 so they could finally make a Secret Wars movie, as Avengers 6 will close out Marvel's lucrative Avengers saga. In Jonathan Hickman's Secret Wars comics, all of Marvel's multiverses are destroyed, though remnants survive on a single planet ruled by Doctor Doom.

Speaking of Doctor Doom, there's still no word yet about his casting in Fantastic Four, as insiders denied my inquiry about Robert Downey Jr., who I was told might come back as an alternate-universe Tony Stark who becomes Doctor Doom instead of Iron Man. It seems far-fetched, yes, but I figured that if there was any hope of Downey coming back, there'd have to be a new wrinkle for him to play. So, for now, we continue to wait…

In the meantime, congrats to the Russos and the millions of Marvel fans they've made happy before, and will surely make happy again when the next two Avengers movies hit theaters on May 1, 2026, and May 7, 2027.

The Russos are represented by CAA, which couldn't have been very happy with my Meryl Streep story last night. But like THR today, I was just doing my job.

One last thing before I go, since I'm off to watch the Mayor of Kingstown finale - you can safely bet that Jeremy Renner will be one of the 66 actors coming back for more Avengers. You don't survive a near-death experience to then pass on a Marvel movie and the opportunity to reunite with your old friends.

And you can take that one to the bank, Hawkeye…
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Btw, for those interested, I highly recommend subscribing to Jeff's newsletter, which he drops four-to-five nights a week, for $9.99/ month. He offers tons of scoops and covers all the day's news...

https://www.theinsneider.com/subscribe

His and Matt Belloni's twice-per-week newsletter (also paid, and more business related) are absolute essentials for me...

https://puck.news/newsletters/what-im-hearing/
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Bringing back 66 characters? I don't think I can name 66 characters from the previous movies. And adding more? They don't mention lead-up intro movies for new characters, so is that not a thing? Or just a character dump?
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I think that was a number from Endgame so maybe that's what they're going with. And I never really knew where they got the Endgame number either tbh…
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