Just finished S3.

A few non spoiler thoughts...
- Laura Linney does an unbelievable job. Bateman is very good as well.
- The guy playing Ben is so talented but.... SO much time spent dealing with him making blatantly stupid decisions. I agree with the above poster that this is not indicative of bipolar disorder necessarily. It's just like the writers randomly shifted from "he's bipolar and unpredictable" to... "he's really dumb."
- Ruth gets a lot of love but I think she's overrated. There are a lot of great acting performances but she just strikes me as corny half the time.
- The last 2 episodes are great.

This show has flashes of absolute brilliance, and then there are times when I'm pretty ready for the episode to be over.

I think 6 or 7 out of 10 is about right... but definitely worth the watch.

I like Ozark and I hated Breaking Bad and I don't think it had anything to do with the pacing or intellectualism of the show.

I thought Walter White was a crap human being from beginning to end and he got worse and worse. He was a sniveling pathetic self centered greedy rat and I never once wanted anything good for him the entire show. Most of the characters were beyond distasteful. The only reason I kept watching the show was because my boyfriend promised me steak dinners per season I watched (so 15 steak dinners..worth it). I've never rooted for a character death the way I did when Skyler got the knife and went after WW.

I like Jason Bateman's character and him as an actor. I think the kids are awesome characters. Ruth is an incredible character. The acting on the show is fantastic. I care about what happens to them. Even lawyer lady became a bit human when her kid was introduced.

Also, for those of you whose wives liked Ozark, have them watch Good Girls. It's basically a funny female cast version of Ozark and it's pretty much a delight.


Also, your wives don't like Breaking Bad.. shocker.. the premise is about a ****ty husband who only becomes a worse husband, lies and hides his illness, then his crimes from his wife, rapes her, pretty much forces her to get involved, holds her hostage... and somehow he's the hero of the show.... whereas in Ozark, the husband and wife hold at least somewhat equal power. Shocker that they like one more than the other.

Skyler sucked.

I will never understand why characters need to be "likeable" or morally agreeable for certain viewers to stick with a show/movie. All I care about is compelling, well-written drama, and that's what Breaking Bad was. Yes, I need to understand a character's motivations, but what I don't understand is needing to root for a "good guy." As long as Walter got what he deserved in the end, great storytelling is all needed to get me there.

I don't know who you're wife is but my husband and I loved BB. Had to binge and catch up but happily did so. I like Ozark as well but I'm tired of HW shoving "strong" female head of families down my throat. Wendy wanted power and she got it at the cost of her brother's life. So much for female empowerment. Wendy is now Hillary.

mazzag said:

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I don't know who you're wife is but my husband and I loved BB. Had to binge and catch up but happily did so. I like Ozark as well but I'm tired of HW shoving "strong" female head of families down my throat. Wendy wanted power and she got it at the cost of her brother's life. So much for female empowerment. Wendy is now Hillary.

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If you don't mind me asking, are you and mazzag08 husband and wife? Related? The similarities in handles confused the heck out of me for quite some time.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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I like Ozark and I hated Breaking Bad and I don't think it had anything to do with the pacing or intellectualism of the show.

I thought Walter White was a crap human being from beginning to end and he got worse and worse. He was a sniveling pathetic self centered greedy rat and I never once wanted anything good for him the entire show. Most of the characters were beyond distasteful. The only reason I kept watching the show was because my boyfriend promised me steak dinners per season I watched (so 15 steak dinners..worth it). I've never rooted for a character death the way I did when Skyler got the knife and went after WW.

I like Jason Bateman's character and him as an actor. I think the kids are awesome characters. Ruth is an incredible character. The acting on the show is fantastic. I care about what happens to them. Even lawyer lady became a bit human when her kid was introduced.

Also, for those of you whose wives liked Ozark, have them watch Good Girls. It's basically a funny female cast version of Ozark and it's pretty much a delight.


Also, your wives don't like Breaking Bad.. shocker.. the premise is about a ****ty husband who only becomes a worse husband, lies and hides his illness, then his crimes from his wife, rapes her, pretty much forces her to get involved, holds her hostage... and somehow he's the hero of the show.... whereas in Ozark, the husband and wife hold at least somewhat equal power. Shocker that they like one more than the other.

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I assume you hate Sopranos, The Wire, etc. because there are lots of crap human beings involved?

Finished last night.

I'm going to miss the Marty-Ruth team and I will hate seeing Ruth on Darlene's team. Marty is too calculated and cold-blooded to stand up for her and didn't appreciate her enough. Ugh.

I thought the therapist was funny every session and I lol'd when she pulled up in the McLaren.

Ben character had some good acting - classroom at the beginning of the season and cab ride at the end stand out, but introducing that character to wreak havoc and advance the story did seem cheesily forced.

I kinda hope that ruth kills Darlene and takes over her farm

swimmerbabe11 said:

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I kinda hope that ruth kills Darlene and takes over her farm

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But that would make her a crap human being and you'd start hating the show.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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I like Ozark and I hated Breaking Bad and I don't think it had anything to do with the pacing or intellectualism of the show.

I thought Walter White was a crap human being from beginning to end and he got worse and worse. He was a sniveling pathetic self centered greedy rat and I never once wanted anything good for him the entire show. Most of the characters were beyond distasteful. The only reason I kept watching the show was because my boyfriend promised me steak dinners per season I watched (so 15 steak dinners..worth it). I've never rooted for a character death the way I did when Skyler got the knife and went after WW.

I like Jason Bateman's character and him as an actor. I think the kids are awesome characters. Ruth is an incredible character. The acting on the show is fantastic. I care about what happens to them. Even lawyer lady became a bit human when her kid was introduced.

Also, for those of you whose wives liked Ozark, have them watch Good Girls. It's basically a funny female cast version of Ozark and it's pretty much a delight.


Also, your wives don't like Breaking Bad.. shocker.. the premise is about a ****ty husband who only becomes a worse husband, lies and hides his illness, then his crimes from his wife, rapes her, pretty much forces her to get involved, holds her hostage... and somehow he's the hero of the show.... whereas in Ozark, the husband and wife hold at least somewhat equal power. Shocker that they like one more than the other.

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Am I the only one who thinks just about everyone on Ozark is also awful? I feel like neither it nor BB is your kind of show if you're looking to root for good people.