My timeline is entirely ETERNALS is incredible and ETERNALS is just okay and ETERNALS is a trash fire, and boy, this movie has my interest more than ever.

— Jacob Hall (@JacobSHall) October 26, 2021

Did this just come out? Did anyone see it? The trailers looked terrible. Someone just tell us what parts are relevant to MCU going forward

I have a feeling if some people love it and some people hate it, it's because it's a very different type of Marvel movie, and I'm all the more intrigued.

Dune is also a movie a lot of people find incredibly boring and tedious, so.

I feel like all the marvelous movies going forward are going to be very different. Not excited about them at all, tbh.

To each their own.

Isn't that what entertainment is all about?

Indeed.

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Did this just come out? Did anyone see it? The trailers looked terrible. Someone just tell us what parts are relevant to MCU going forward

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Comes out on 11/5

What?? They better release that *****

#Eternals drops to 66% on Rotten Tomatoes 🍅

It is now tied with ‘Thor: The Dark World’ as the worst-rated MCU movie pic.twitter.com/9iZbCNANTV

— Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) October 27, 2021

63%

I'll still watch it but go into it with low Black Widow like expectations.

Edit: well crap, just refreshed the page on rotten tomatoes and it drop a couple points

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/dune-part-2-sequel-1235094974/amp/

I know. It was kind of a joke from the dune thread where thst was an ongoing topic of debate.

Does this signal marvel fatigue? Can we please have less of these movies made? Please?

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Does this signal marvel fatigue? Can we please have less of these movies made? Please?

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I don't think so. Marvel has proven that they are willing to take risks on movies to see what works. This might have been a too big of a risk.

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Does this signal marvel fatigue? Can we please have less of these movies made? Please?

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As long as 12 year old exist Marvel movies will be made. I have zero interest in them anymore, but I'm not 12.

Tibbers said:

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Let's revisit in December after Spiderman: No Way Home opens

I admit, I haven't seen an MCU movie in theaters since Endgame. I eventually rented Black Widow on Disney+ (thought it was so-so), was in no rush to see Shang-Chi (will watch on Disney+ once it's available), and after reviews I doubt I see Eternals in theaters now either. Through Endgame, I'd seen every single Marvel movie in theaters, opening weekend, but these latest three just haven't motivated me at all.

That said, starting with No Way Home, there's no way I don't see at least the next seven MCU movies in theaters, opening weekend/week. While these latest three have felt relatively inconsequential to the overall narrative, the next seven on the slate definitely feel more crucial, familiar, and like a return to form.

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I've seen every MCU movie at the theater. This is legitimately the first one that none of the trailers do anything for me. I've seen Nomadland, I know that Chloe Zhao can direct a film. The cast is ridiculous. There's nothing about it that looks interesting to me. I don't know who The Eternals are, and I don't feel compelled to find out. I didn't know who the GotG were but the trailers were great and I was already a fan of James Gunn, I was sold well before going into the theater. Even if the reviews were solid I don't know that I'd want to see it. I think this is a matter of the property being the issue, not Marvel itself.

For me it would have made more sense for the MCU to dive into the X-Men finally. Though supposedly The Eternals will have a connection into introducing the X-Men.

I'd also prefer they would have just to their efforts into getting Blade going with Mahershala Ali. Fun character, great actor. He's also not an unknown character or actor, there's a built in audience there.

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For such an ardent supporter of the theater experience, why are you letting reviews stop you from watching it in theaters and forming your own opinion? Reviews are pretty divided anyway.

Considering the director, and how great the cinematography looks, this seems like the kind of movie that would be better seen on the big screen.

For me, that was Black Widow and Shang Chi.

Both ended up being pleasant surprises, but I had zero interest in either from the trailers.

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and after reviews I doubt I see Eternals in theaters now either.

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For such an ardent supporter of the theater experience, why are you letting reviews stop you from watching it in theaters and forming your own opinion? Reviews are pretty divided anyway.

Considering the director, and how great the cinematography looks, this seems like the kind of movie that would be better seen on the big screen.

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I'm in the same boat as Max Power. Outside of reviews, despite the director and the cinematography, it just looks so blah to me in general. Nothing about the plot or the characters looks remotely interesting, based on the trailers. If it didn't have the Marvel name attached to it, I wouldn't even consider seeing it period. I'm not saying I won't see it, I'm just not not going to rush out opening weekend.

As for supporting theaters in general, re: Black Widow, my parents were in town that week and we had already seen two movies in theaters, they don't do Marvel stuff, and I just never got around to it after that, being crazy busy with work. Then I was out of town for Shang-Chi, and once I saw that it was hitting Disney+ on 11/12, I just decided to wait.

So part of it has been timing, but part of it has also been getting a tired of the same old CGI punching and fighting and what not. It's like with the older characters I'm familiar with and invested in, they're "grandfathered" in in that regard, if that makes sense. But the new stuff just looks like more of the old stuff in terms of effects and mindless punching and all that I've just kind of lost interest in general, without the nostalgic attachment (like, the sequence that ends the latest Eternals trailer, with Richard Madden fighting that dumb CGI beast, then lasers shooting out of his eyes, etc - I just feel like I've seen that a THOUSAND times at this point, and I'm so sick of it). I think Black Widow really soured me on the whole thing as well. It was just so derivative and cheap-looking and uninspired that it felt like Marvel going through the motions, for the first time.

I don't know, I guess I'm just ready for new stories going forward with the characters I already know and love.

I definitely agree that the trailers have really done it for me overall. Definitely the least excited I've been about a Marvel film. I'm just going so I can watch for the GOT callback for Jon & Robb. I'll be extremely disappointed if they don't make one about Jon being all black as the Black Knight. It literally writes itself

Eternals are incredibly obscure - like 5x more obscure than the Guardians were in 2014. These guys have never been able to historically carry a comic book run past 15 issues.

I always think of it like this: good source material doesn't guarantee a good adaptation, but bad source material makes for a very tough uphill climb. Shang-Chi had a good hook but I felt like all the mystical stuff was either wholly original or kinda pilfered from Iron Fist's lore. Jessica Jones season 1 was good, 2 and 3 really ran out of ideas/lore.

Eternals has some intriguing concepts but it never had sustained success - and that's a lot of new ground to tread in a movie with ~12 brand new characters, thousands of years of scope, cosmic importance, etc etc etc.

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That's the whole thing for me as well.
I know there's another Thor from Taika on the horizon, and Spiderman 3 right around the corner, and a really cool Dr. Strange concept, Antman 3 and GOTG3.

The Eternals' concept seems too big and forced. Because their explanation from teh trailer, which I realize is probably spliced together, of why they couldn't fight Thanos, is really lame. We are super pwoered, but we can only fight one type of enemy.

That's like Superman saying he can only stop bank robbers. So technically, that guy stole the safe out of your store, that's not a bank, so I can't help you.

My other problem is the massive cast of pretty well known actors. Angelina Jolie and Salma Hayek as superheroes just isn't moving the needle for me. The rest of the Marvel heroes have all been stars on the rise, or in Downey Jr.s case, life imitating art. Even after seeing the trailer and the poster 20 times, I can't even tell you how many enternals there are. 8? 12? Guardians of the Galaxy introduced a whole new team of hereos, but one had green skin, one was a tree, and one was a racoon - that's a lot easier to get familar with.

Anyway, I'm not going to watch it, and if the spoiler after credits scene is what I read online, that sounds really, really dumb. /oldman rant

Pretty much right there with you. And that's a good point about the team in general. I get that they're supposed to be disguised as humans or whatever, so as to blend in for thousands of years, but on screen it's just this random assembly of relatively boring humans in spandex, who don't seem to have much chemistry, as opposed to a diverse group of species or, with incredible chemistry, constantly giving each other sh*t, a la Guardians.

I feel like it all depends on how they handle the multiverse. Because I could easily see it being way too much and way too overwhelming, if they don't thread that needle perfectly. But if they're still able to compelling stories with legit stakes and great characters, while making the multiverse easily digestible, I could see them eventually topping Endgame with all the crossover potential at their disposal.

Same.