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I guess I don't see why they wouldn't at least have him have a change of heart and show up at the last second.

I know I was expecting him to be the one to rescue Sersi at the end there before Icarus stopped.
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rhutton125 said:

Where I think it does falter a bit is execution at times. Thena's finale with the head deviant was... just kind of there? The action was definitely competent but the pacing of the finale had a few moments that might have felt triumphant or thrilling but instead just kind of happened. A few tweaks and that might have been better.


I was hoping for some kind of redemption arc with the Deviant. Would have been a better movie if they'd turned out to be more ambiguously good and that one ends up saving the day somehow, especially once it was revealed they were never the main villains. Killing it off was a waste.
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I can't be the only one who thought it was going to absorb all their powers and end up saving the day, right?
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Couple random thoughts then I'll spoiler tag.

Overall I enjoyed it (though not as much as Shang Chi), it's beautifully shot and the art direction and creature design is fantastic. Story got a bit wonky in places and a few things seemed a little out of place for me, but it's far from a bad movie and the overall concept is actually really interesting.

The "sex scene" is no worse than something your kids have seen on prime time tv.

I think I enjoyed the first act of the film (especially the opening few sequences) better than the rest of it.

The early sequence in London with Ikarus, Sersi, and Sprite really got me into the story then we never quite got back to that level of action/intrigue. The jungle sequence was cool as well, but the end battle pacing was odd.

They mention that an Eternal hasn't died in 500 years (I think) then flashback and we don't see anyone die…or did I miss something?

Agree that Kingo not being in the final battle felt like a weird omission.

We thought Druig died, but then he didn't and was just like "Ok Sersi I can't do this". Um, why?

Then they all linked up, including the two characters against their will, and Sersi was able to turn the Celestial to stone. I'm assuming that's what the bracelets that Phastos created did but it just seemed a bit forced.
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I think they said no Eternal had died in 7000 years, or however long they'd been there - so at all.

I also think Ikaris and Sprite did the uni-mind willingly at the end, but I'm not 100% sure.

No clue why Druig couldn't do it though! I may have missed a line. I think he said he's not powerful enough earlier on.
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Pretty sure they can be reconstructed at the forge with no memories
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Agreed! But they were all shocked that it happened at all, not knowing about the forge. I could be misremembering but I think the gist was the 3 characters there had never seen it happen.
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Ambres said:


Oh did anyone think that the eternal technology mirror a little close to the 10 rings from Shang Chi.
I do not think that is by accident. The bracelets that Phastos creates would match up with what we already know from Shang-Chi. There are 10 bracelets (possibly one for each Eternal) and Bruce Banner and Carol Danvers had no idea where the bracelets came from nor were able to recognize the writing on them.
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I was worried when the first batch of reviews were released, but I found Eternals to be about exactly what it advertised itself to be, and what I had hoped for and expected from the first trailer.

It was more interesting than Shang Chi and Black Widow, and while I love what the MCU was leading all the way to Endgame, I am excited that this movie is just different.

My only complaints are that the execution was a bit flawed, being that it seemed to break its own 'rules' at times, but it wasn't enough to take me out of the narrative.

I thought the surround sound mix was great, as well.

Sex scene didn't seem out of place for me. From the first Iron Man, we had Tony romping in bed with Christine Everhart.
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Saw it Tuesday. Nothing to add that hasn't been discussed, I thought it was okay. Not the best but not the worst. A few head scratching decisions, but it was entertaining and worth seeing if nothing but seeing two Stark boys say I love you Cersei

I'll just add this, I enjoy watching these after movies now:
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GreasenUSA said:

I was worried when the first batch of reviews were released, but I found Eternals to be about exactly what it advertised itself to be, and what I had hoped for and expected from the first trailer.

It was more interesting than Shang Chi and Black Widow, and while I love what the MCU was leading all the way to Endgame, I am excited that this movie is just different.

My only complaints are that the execution was a bit flawed, being that it seemed to break its own 'rules' at times, but it wasn't enough to take me out of the narrative.

I thought the surround sound mix was great, as well.

Sex scene didn't seem out of place for me. From the first Iron Man, we had Tony romping in bed with Christine Everhart.


We have rules here. Rule #1 on Christine
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Saxsoon said:

I am taking with a bit of a grain of salt because it is Kumail Nanjiani being a comedian and could have been trolling but he seemed deadly serious and wondered if he would get in trouble

In an interview with the Midnight Boys on Into the Ringerverse podcast Kumail said the voice talking to Dane was straight up Blade (Mahershala Ali)


Definitely was. I recognized it right away
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I saw it. have strong opinions, will post them once I get to keyboard, this is to remind me.
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Just got out of Eternals. The most believable aspect of the movie was Angelina Jolie may actually be an Eternal
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CoachRTM said:

It was good, not great. They could have easily made it into two movies, the first one ending at Tenochtitlan.
*Spoilers* (in case my spoiler tags don't work)












Yea this wasn't a good movie and the amount of 'story' they tried to tell is 80% of the reason. I don't know anything about the Eternals comics but i felt like there were 4 or 5 too many heroes. It's just not possible to introduce NINE new characters, develop them, AND tell a cohesive story. This movie should have been a Disney+ series if that's what they wanted to do.

If they were dead set on using all 9 characters in a single movie, I feel like they needed to do 2 things:
1) Don't even try to do the Sersi love story w/Kit Harrington bit. Or at least just start it from a point where he already knows who she is.

2) Do not break up the team. Trying to tell the story of them reconnecting was just a slog.
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it occurred to me that cersi is Moana lol rock formation really reminds me of the visuals from moana.
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I enjoyed it. Obviously not the best of the MCU but to me not deserving of the low rating either.

Questions I had were how they almost involuntarily went into the unimind. One wrap up video explained it as the connection to the baby celestial forced the unimind to begin. Not sure.

Have a feeling that we see Ikaris again. And can't Arisham just reprogram another version of him and for that matter can't he just regenerate the other "dead" eternals West World style. It was never explained how biological they are. I prefer the comic versions of eternals where they are just modified humans.

Also, one scene that bothered me was the Hiroshima scene. First, how'd they actually get there? There is still a war going on. It's not like they could just hope an airliner or take a cruise. ANd it wasn't established that they were part of a military unit, of which there'd be no Allie units there on Aug 6 1945. Second, where were the survivors? The bomb used at Hiroshima wasn't like a modern nuke. It wasn't nearly as powerful and there were survivors milling around soon after the blast. There are pictures of it.




2 western looking people standing in plain day in a Japanese city during WWII would NOT have gone over well. Soldiers would have spotted them miles away and come to kill or capture them. Third, to be there, they'd have to know it was happening. They wouldn't have. Finally, Phastos cries b/c this was such a horrific event. I was left thinking that of all the equally horrible things that went on since the mid 30's through that day, THIS was the one that sets him off. Never mind all the genocide, combat deaths before Hiroshima and the entire war that went on. Also, never mind the fact that the A bomb prevented a much more horrific invasion. The A-Bomb gets too much credit for being "horrible" b/c of the optics of being the first 2 A bombs used and the implications. I get that. But as a history buff, scenes like that are so overly simplified and lose context to the overall horror that WWII was. I'd have preferred a more intelligent scene of Phastos lamenting the entire war and the technology he helped kick start but set after the war maybe was part of a crew in Japan there to help occupy and assist the citizens of post war Japan. Didn't ruin anything for me just don't like these over simplified scenes that would have never existed even in a comic book universe.
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Dude it's a movie, not a Ken Burns documentary.
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EDIT:
THIS IS A LOT OF WORDS AND STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND I THINK THERE ARE SPOILERS SO OOPS. ARE WE SPOILER OKAY YET?




I would argue that if you watched WWI and WWII both.. wouldn't WWI freak you out worse?

But also, the spin from "THEY DONT DESERVE TO BE SAVED" to I have a hubby and a kid in a suburban life was so quick that it made my head spin.

IMO, he is the only one that demonstrated a real chemistry and love for humanity that merited risking everything to save them. Sure, Cersi gets the credit, but she was kinda painted in this way where she would love everybody pretty equally.. and she didn't seem nearly as invest in the relationship with Dane as he was with her.

Thena was only really freaking out because she was manipulated, Gilgamesh's entire purpose was to take care of her, we never saw Ajak have any actual interaction with humans at all.. when she died she was all isolated out on a freakin ranch wth a horse... also.. ranches where all you see is a person and one horse is wierd. the eff are you doing out there? Anyway, Makkan was just bored and Druig was just a dick? in it to ruin someone's day because he was mad that he was made into a puppet? That brings us to Kingo...Kingo probably actually immersed himself the most. Had the most believable loving relationship. Had established a way to live on Earth in this way..he was played as a super silly superficial character, but when it came down to it? He was the most logical about everything... He ended up being the most mature.. did a absolute pontious pilate level of washing his hands of the situation.. which basically meant betraying his valet at the last minute. If he was opposed to stopping this, why didn't he speak up at the initial dinner? Where was the moment where he apologized to the human that had been loyal to him for 50 years.. a long time in a human life.


This was very stream of consciousness.\

This would have been amazing as a miniseries. They had to push so much together, that it really did make it difficult. I loved the movie overall and I want to see more of every character. I almost cried at the death.

Also, Ajak. Why did we see her entire death twice? Time was precious in this movie. They could have used that time more wisely. We knew where her body ended up, we knew most of how it happened.

The initial scenes in London were fabulous.

I also wish we could have seen more of Thena and Gilgamesh before the mad weary. They had beautiful chemistry, but we didnt get to see how they got there except that one really awesome moment in the fight against the deviants where she stabs something so elegantly and he takes her hand like a lady. (possibly my favorite moment.. I loved the juxtaposition of being brutal yet elegant and ladylike. I don't think they ever accomplished her personality in quite the same way again in the movie.)

Loved Dane..but if that relationship isn't going to be explored further in later movies, I think they made him a little bit too lovestruck. I look forward to him playing that role though. It fit well IMO.


My heart broke constantly for Sprite, I thought she was great and (I'm a HUGE Peter Pan fan) the tinkerbell analogies were great..once again proving that Kingo was the most insightful of the bunch.. something you would have possibly expected from Druig. I think it would have been nice if she would have tried to present herself as "woman" to Ikarus and him brushed it off and just been like "hey, I like seeing you, kid" or something, so reiterate that she was in love. I don't necessarily think that they should have used Kingo as the reveal to the audience that she felt eros love and not big brother love for her.



I loved the movie, definitely wanted more, not less. The story telling was great, its just that there is sooooooooooooooo much there to tell. It was beautiful..

Also, the rock structure gave real moana vibes.


Starfox and Pip were curious. Interested to see what they do with them..but how many more places can they shoehorn patton oswalt into the MCU? Is there really no one else out there? Nobody? Bueller?

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Definitely could have been great as a limited series. I'm thinking they could have done it similar to LOST with the time jumps and focus on a character or two per episode.
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YellowPot_97 said:

Dude it's a movie, not a Ken Burns documentary.
I agree. Like I said, nit picking....
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I would argue that if you watched WWI and WWII both.. wouldn't WWI freak you out worse?

But also, the spin from "THEY DONT DESERVE TO BE SAVED" to I have a hubby and a kid in a suburban life was so quick that it made my head spin.
Agree. For a guy who is 7,000 years old, 1945-2023 is like 2 hours. Reminds me of the football game threads on this site! 1st qtr certain folks are ready to fire everyone and by the end all is right with the world.
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HOW DID HE START DATING?
Where did he go after his breakdown? He clearly didn't become a recluse like the Druig.
Like where did they meet? Was he moping at a smoothie king just upset in general and this guy came up and gave him hope in the suburban family life?
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swimmerbabe11 said:

HOW DID HE START DATING?
Where did he go after his breakdown? He clearly didn't become a recluse like the Druig.
Like where did they meet? Was he moping at a smoothie king just upset in general and this guy came up and gave him hope in the suburban family life?
Life does feel better after a Hulk smoothie from Smoothie King!
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Interested to see what they do with them..but how many more places can they shoehorn patton oswalt into the MCU? Is there really no one else out there? Nobody? Bueller?
I know he's was in Agents of SHIELD as a side character (and said character's siblings), but what else is he in that is MCU?

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wangus12 said:

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Interested to see what they do with them..but how many more places can they shoehorn patton oswalt into the MCU? Is there really no one else out there? Nobody? Bueller?
I know he's was in Agents of SHIELD as a side character (and said character's siblings), but what else is he in that is MCU?


Well, he did create the multiverse!

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I guess not mcu, but he voice acts uncle Ben and he's Modok. I just feel like he's everywhere and I don't love him that much. I'm projecting.

he's also Happy which feels like a similar type character.
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Finally saw the movie this evening. And seeing as this thread only reached five pages and only two pages of it were about the actual movie, that about sums up my thoughts on it too.

Around the Amazon, I started checking my watch. This movie was long. I wonder if movie theaters might start having intermissions soon. With decreased ticket sales (due to streaming options), you'd think that increased concessions sales at an intermission would be the way to go. But I digress.

Overall, I didn't love it but I didn't hate it. It was a little flat and I didn't really enjoy the general chemistry between the characters. The scene when they return to their ship and two of them swap a tablet for Twinkies? What was the point of that? Was it supposed to be funny? That was where chemistry was lacking.

Thought the post credits scenes were meh as well, but that's probably because I know literally nothing about any of those characters. I only saw this in the theaters on the ridiculous off-chance that I might need information from it before watching Hawkeye or Spider-Man. If they make a sequel, I'll just wait until it's released on Disney+.
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way too long. complete meh. don't pay to watch it.
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Yep, big bag of meh.
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I thought it was fine.

Some of the decisions people made at the end (including the god's) didn't make much sense.

I'd give it a C+ or B-
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Looks like this is on Disney+ now, perhaps I'll give it a whirl since it won't cost me anything but time.
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I was assured this would suck and the youtube reviews made it out as worse than hitler. Having just watched it and going in with the lowest of expectations I'd have to say....it wasn't that bad. I was entertained for 2 hours. Not in any hurry to watch again but if it was on I'd give it some of my time. Film in my mind was probably around the same quality as black widow which I didn't think was terrible either. If the sequel happens I'll watch it....when it comes out on disney plus.

I give it 3 out of 5 Hulk Tacos
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Just watched it, read the whole thread. No one in here is wrong about anything, lol. The overall plot was pretty good but I guess the execution was a bit off.

I liked Kingo and Makkari the most. Sersi's power manifestation didn't land very well, for me. Can the Sun even kill Ikaris?

edit to add: I had absolutely no idea about Aros or what he's going to do. I remember way back reading on here about Kit and Black Knight, but again - no idea about the character.
 
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