Hasn't Star Trek always been heavily focused on diversity, equality, and things of that nature?

I've seen most of season 1 of TNG and in that watching there has been an episode about the death penalty (when Wesley crushes the flowers and is sentenced to death) and about how primitive it is and that a legal system cannot be a blunt rule book. S1E8 "Justice". There's also an episode about gender equality when the women run the planet and the men who crashed there are anarchists. S1E14 "Angel One". That episode also references the death penalty as a negative. In the late 80s, these were highly politicized topics right?

The entire Ferengi race is a warning about the danger of unchecked capitalism.

I hate Janeway on Voyager. She's annoying.

1. DS9. Superior to all others
2. TNG
3. Original Series.
4. Enterprise. The final season and last episode are kind of anti-climactic.
5. Voyager. I like some aspects of it, but Janeway kills it for me.

I've watched every show of every series and all the movies.

Haven't checked out Picard or the other new one.

Agreed. I think people watching in syndication thirty years (or more) later take some of the messages for granted when they weren't at all mainstream at the time.

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Hasn't Star Trek always been heavily focused on diversity, equality, and things of that nature?

I've seen most of season 1 of TNG and in that watching there has been an episode about the death penalty (when Wesley crushes the flowers and is sentenced to death) and about how primitive it is and that a legal system cannot be a blunt rule book. S1E8 "Justice". There's also an episode about gender equality when the women run the planet and the men who crashed there are anarchists. S1E14 "Angel One". That episode also references the death penalty as a negative. In the late 80s, these were highly politicized topics right?

The entire Ferengi race is a warning about the danger of unchecked capitalism.

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Yeah but season 1 sucks.

I think what tibbers is wishing for is less influence from current events, not arguing that ST has none.

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I actually love Janeway! Sisco is the worst of the "captains," although I admit I haven't watched the Bacula series.

The thing that makes Voyager fun for me is how the ship is isolated and alone. It doesn't have the big, bad federation to back it up. They have to carry their morality into unsure places. The odds against them are often overwhelming, and the series allowed for the creation of many new "civilizations" beyond Romulans, Klingons and Vulcans.

What Voyager does best, perhaps, is flesh out the Borg, and their repeated Borg interactions are some of the best shows in all the ST universe.

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I'm opposite - Cisco is my favorite. He is a very complex character, and I love the way he interacts with Bashir, Quark, etc. DS-9 is my favorite, bar none. IMHO, it has the best writing and character development of all the series. But, just my opinion. Janeway comes off as brash and arrogant to me.

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I actually love Janeway! Sisco is the worst of the "captains," although I admit I haven't watched the Bacula series.

The thing that makes Voyager fun for me is how the ship is isolated and alone. It doesn't have the big, bad federation to back it up. They have to carry their morality into unsure places. The odds against them are often overwhelming, and the series allowed for the creation of many new "civilizations" beyond Romulans, Klingons and Vulcans.

What Voyager does best, perhaps, is flesh out the Borg, and their repeated Borg interactions are some of the best shows in all the ST universe.

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Voyager is a great concept that is kind of poorly executed. There are just so many dud episodes that boringly go through the same motions. It has its moments; there just aren't a lot of them.

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I actually love Janeway! Sisco is the worst of the "captains," although I admit I haven't watched the Bacula series.

The thing that makes Voyager fun for me is how the ship is isolated and alone. It doesn't have the big, bad federation to back it up. They have to carry their morality into unsure places. The odds against them are often overwhelming, and the series allowed for the creation of many new "civilizations" beyond Romulans, Klingons and Vulcans.

What Voyager does best, perhaps, is flesh out the Borg, and their repeated Borg interactions are some of the best shows in all the ST universe.

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Shut your hoar mouth over Sisko

I was seriously asked if we named Benny after him since we already had a cat named Dax.

To me, he ties with Picard as the best capt

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Fightin TX Aggie said:

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I actually love Janeway! Sisco is the worst of the "captains," although I admit I haven't watched the Bacula series.

The thing that makes Voyager fun for me is how the ship is isolated and alone. It doesn't have the big, bad federation to back it up. They have to carry their morality into unsure places. The odds against them are often overwhelming, and the series allowed for the creation of many new "civilizations" beyond Romulans, Klingons and Vulcans.

What Voyager does best, perhaps, is flesh out the Borg, and their repeated Borg interactions are some of the best shows in all the ST universe.

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Shut your hoar mouth over Sisko

I was seriously asked if we named Benny after him since we already had a cat named Dax.

To me, he ties with Picard as the best capt

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Yes, Sisko and Picard are the best. Janeway can go suck a lemon.

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I actually love Janeway! Sisco is the worst of the "captains," although I admit I haven't watched the Bacula series.

The thing that makes Voyager fun for me is how the ship is isolated and alone. It doesn't have the big, bad federation to back it up. They have to carry their morality into unsure places. The odds against them are often overwhelming, and the series allowed for the creation of many new "civilizations" beyond Romulans, Klingons and Vulcans.

What Voyager does best, perhaps, is flesh out the Borg, and their repeated Borg interactions are some of the best shows in all the ST universe.

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I'm opposite - Cisco is my favorite. He is a very complex character, and I love the way he interacts with Bashir, Quark, etc. DS-9 is my favorite, bar none. IMHO, it has the best writing and character development of all the series. But, just my opinion. Janeway comes off as brash and arrogant to me.

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The Alamo obsession with Bashir and O'Brien was awesome.

The perfect bromance

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Yeah, I also liked Quark... he was hilarious. Jake was a little lame.

I also liked Warf and Gensia Dax... Esri sucked.

Captains, ranked:

1. Janeway
2. Picard
3. Kirk
4. Pike
5. Riker
6. Sisko

1-Burnham

Janeway:

• Defeated humanity's greatest threat, the Borg
• Formed an alliance with Species 8472
• Explored the Delta Quadrant - alone - and brought her crew back - twice
• Brought peace to the Q Civil War
• Outwitted AI Michael Mckean from within his own system (great episode, btw)
• Accomplished all of this with a weanie of 2nd in command

Dear heavens, I am a nerd. I accept it!

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Janeway:

• Defeated humanity's greatest threat, the Borg
• Formed an alliance with Species 8472
• Explored the Delta Quadrant - alone - and brought her crew back - twice
• Brought peace to the Q Civil War
• Outwitted AI Michael Mckean from within his own system (great episode, btw)
• Accomplished all of this with a weanie of 2nd in command

Dear heavens, I am a nerd. I accept it!

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I'd take Jakote over Janeway any day.

Fightin TX Aggie said:

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Captains, ranked:

1. Janeway
2. Picard
3. Kirk
4. Pike
5. Riker
6. Sisko

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GET OUT

1. Picard
2. Sisko
3. Kirk
4. Archer
5. Pike








800. Janeway


Riker is in 1st officers and like 3rd on that list

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I agree with this.

There was a bunch of bad acting in DS9, but Garak was great. I liked Odo as well.

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Garak

Not a fan of leeta the stripper on Ds9?

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I agree with this.

There was a bunch of bad acting in DS9, but Garak was great. I liked Odo as well.

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Garak

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I kinda wish they would do a one off on the DS9 a decade or two later.

Does Sisko ever see his baby in person?
Does Nog succeed at Starfleet?
Does Bashir ever figure out how to win the Battle of the Alamo?

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I agree with this.

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Garak

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I kinda wish they would do a one off on the DS9 a decade or two later.

Does Sisko ever see his baby in person?
Does Nog succeed at Starfleet?
Does Bashir ever figure out how to win the Battle of the Alamo?

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A DS9 movie or limited run would be amazing.

I can't see anyone else as Nog, though. Tough to recast. And you can't replace Odo either.

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I agree with this.

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Garak

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I kinda wish they would do a one off on the DS9 a decade or two later.

Does Sisko ever see his baby in person?
Does Nog succeed at Starfleet?
Does Bashir ever figure out how to win the Battle of the Alamo?

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A DS9 movie or limited run would be amazing.

I can't see anyone else as Nog, though. Tough to recast. And you can't replace Odo either.

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But Odo did leave, so that would be a little bit easier to accept

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Garak

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I kinda wish they would do a one off on the DS9 a decade or two later.

Does Sisko ever see his baby in person?
Does Nog succeed at Starfleet?
Does Bashir ever figure out how to win the Battle of the Alamo?

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In the latest season of Discovery, set 1000 years into the future, there is a USS Nog.

Nog must have ended up being one of the best captains in history if they're naming ships after him 1000 years later.


https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Nog

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Man, i have to say, i know this is the dork forum when my post with pics of some of the hottest women in galactic history only has one star by 10;30 on a friday night.

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Eh, Star Trek the original series wasn't my jam

If you'd posted pics of Counselor Troi, now that's a different story.

Speaking of, it was pretty amazing how TNG emphasized mental health. Almost every other episode somebody was in therapy.

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Garak is one of the best, if not the best, minor characters in the whole franchise.

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I agree with this.

There was a bunch of bad acting in DS9, but Garak was great. I liked Odo as well.

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Garak

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I kinda wish they would do a one off on the DS9 a decade or two later.

Does Sisko ever see his baby in person?
Does Nog succeed at Starfleet?
Does Bashir ever figure out how to win the Battle of the Alamo?

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In the latest season of Discovery, set 1000 years into the future, there is a USS Nog.

Nog must have ended up being one of the best captains in history if they're naming ships after him 1000 years later.


https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Nog

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I haven't really seen Discovery.

Thank

I pity starred it.
But the last picture in your set is Teri Garr, who apparently didn't have the best experience on set and refuses (or at least did) to be associated with the show.