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Top Gun: Maverick is the worst movie...

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If OP were younger he would be considered a neckbeard
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You can't watch this movie on a little screen. It's not that great of a movie but on a large screen looks spectacular.

I enjoyed it quite a bit.
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It's corny as hell and full of cliches. I barely enjoyed my 30th viewing!!
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aggie_wes said:

Very campy, flimsy physics, and all the subtlety of a sledgehammer. I was reminded why I don't watch big blockbusters any more. Just terrible.


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The film is worth it just for the fact that they went through the effort to live shoot so many of the scenes. There are a lot of complaints that I could bring up with the plot etc. like the OP, but seriously, you see this movie for the live action F18 scenes with the actors actually pulling g's.

In a world where blockbuster movies are mostly dudes and gals prancing around in CGI suits in front of green screens, they put actors in flight suits and fighter jets.
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Suspension of disbelief.
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The cinematography was great but the story had no grit.

Should have had a few younger women in Jennifer Conley's role.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Should have had a few younger women in Jennifer Conley's role.
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You know boxers don't really train by hitting sides of beef in a butcher shop but that doesn't make Rocky a bad movie.
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If that's the bar, then I'm fine being on the "snooty" side of it.
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The Milkman said:

My brother, who is a test pilot and very much in this space, had no issues enjoying the entirety of the movie.


Buddy of mine was a thunderbird. He freaking loved it.
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maroon barchetta said:

That's the point. The movie doesn't age as poorly if the country is non-descript.


Lol what? It was so the movie could be shown in China and not piss anyone off. How the hell would the movie age poorly if it bombed a Stan or Iran?

Are ww2 movies bad because they're based in Germany? This is a mind blowing critique
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Oh, I see.

If we bomb the Iraq and such as, China won't show the movie.

Ok.

Listen, I get that leaving out a name of a country removes the risk of China getting upset and makes it more likely the movie gets shown there, but it also makes the movie age better.

World War II is established history. This is a fictional story. It's a little different. Sorry if you don't see the difference in including other countries in a World War II movie and omitting the name of the enemy country in Top Gun: Maverick.
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I'm not sure if I can comfortable tag the OP as trolling but holy hell, worse movie........


Get the FO of here. This movie was ****nig amazing.
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great movie
bad post
will watch again
and again
and again
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The Lost said:

maroon barchetta said:

That's the point. The movie doesn't age as poorly if the country is non-descript.


Lol what? It was so the movie could be shown in China and not piss anyone off. How the hell would the movie age poorly if it bombed a Stan or Iran?

Are ww2 movies bad because they're based in Germany? This is a mind blowing critique


The decision had absolutely nothing to do with China. In fact, when Cruise found out that a marketing exec at Paramount had the Chinese flag removed from Maverick's old jacket for the very first trailer, Cruise went ape sh*t and insisted it be put back, and that it remain on for the movie itself. When Paramount tried to explain their reasoning (not wanting to upset China), Cruise didn't give a sh*t, and basically told Paramount to f/ck off. Cruise is king, what he says goes, and there's no chance they wrote that particular plot point to appease China. As the director/multiple people involved with the movie have echoed, and multiple posters have echoed, it was written that way because A) that's how the first movie did it, and B) it keeps the movie from aging poorly, so as to not feel like a dated conflict that would no doubt evolve and take on some new meaning/context ten years from now. You can laugh and deny it all you want, but that's the truth.
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It was a taiwanese flag on the jacket. We all know china's opinion on taiwan. Spot in otherwise.
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The whole film industry needs to pick some little country and make it the bad guy in every movie. Then nobody will complain. I'm voting for Paraguay.
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The Porkchop Express said:

The whole film industry needs to pick some little country and make it the bad guy in every movie. Then nobody will complain. I'm voting for Paraguay.


My vote is for Lichtenstein. They're very suspicious.
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Teacher_Ag said:

The Porkchop Express said:

The whole film industry needs to pick some little country and make it the bad guy in every movie. Then nobody will complain. I'm voting for Paraguay.


My vote is for Lichtenstein. They're very suspicious.


Been there! It was lovely!

I bought a Swatch.

My vote is Eritrea. It sounds like an infection.
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maroon barchetta said:

Teacher_Ag said:

The Porkchop Express said:

The whole film industry needs to pick some little country and make it the bad guy in every movie. Then nobody will complain. I'm voting for Paraguay.


My vote is for Lichtenstein. They're very suspicious.


Been there! It was lovely!

I bought a Swatch.

My vote is Eritrea. It sounds like an infection.


Isn't Nazi Germany still the best baddy?

It is actually surprising that the original didn't just call out the Soviets since it was very common in movies at that time.
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jbanda said:

It was a taiwanese flag on the jacket. We all know china's opinion on taiwan. Spot in otherwise.


Ah, that's right. My bad.
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maroon barchetta said:

Teacher_Ag said:

The Porkchop Express said:

The whole film industry needs to pick some little country and make it the bad guy in every movie. Then nobody will complain. I'm voting for Paraguay.


My vote is for Lichtenstein. They're very suspicious.


Been there! It was lovely!

I bought a Swatch.

My vote is Eritrea. It sounds like an infection.


I have a friend from Eritrea so I can't go with that.

I say....California just to mix things up. Plus, I like the irony of it.
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Wakanda… fk them
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My vote is for either Arendelle or Genovia.
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Sex Panther said:

Wakanda… fk them


Username maybe doesn't check out.
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maroon barchetta said:

Sex Panther said:

Wakanda… fk them


Username maybe doesn't check out.


I think it checks out almost too perfectly.
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TCTTS said:

jbanda said:

It was a taiwanese flag on the jacket. We all know china's opinion on taiwan. Spot in otherwise.


Ah, that's right. My bad.


China has been reading this thread and is upset.

https://www.kbtx.com/2022/12/26/china-sends-71-warplanes-7-ships-toward-taiwan-24-hours/
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The Porkchop Express said:

The whole film industry needs to pick some little country and make it the bad guy in every movie. Then nobody will complain. I'm voting for Paraguay.


Iceland
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The Porkchop Express said:

The whole film industry needs to pick some little country and make it the bad guy in every movie. Then nobody will complain. I'm voting for Paraguay.

The made up country of Val Verde from 80s movies needs to come back. It was good enough for Commando, Die Hard 2, Predator, and more.
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I told my wife about this thread and her question for the OP was "Did he ever see Home Alone?"
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wbt5845 said:

... I''ve watched in years. Am I the only person who thinks this way? Probably so.

They finally put this out on Paramount + so I started watching it yesterday, Got as far as start of the sailboat scene and just turned it off.

Perhaps it was all the silliness and inaccuracies of the flying scenes that drove me nutty. No, there is no manned vehicle that flies anywhere close to Mach10. There is no way to eject and live traveling at any speed like that.No, test pilots are automatically grounded flying outside the prescribed training curriculum. COs portraits at HQ are not glamour shots. Use the right damn tools to work on your P-51, dammit!

Perhaps this is just a movie that is about what I've done for a living for the last several decades and can't bring myself to suspend reality long enough to enjoy a work of fiction. But I really was surprised to see so many calling this the movie of the year.

Does he finally end up playing volleyball with the son of his booty buddy at the end?
I struggled with the same stuff, but damn if I didn't have a grin on my face for the entire movie and even watching it last night. If you pay attention there are some real tactics and techniques in the movie. For example, "splitting the throttles" on the F-14 was an old trick that A model pilots used to take advantage of the asymmetric thrust during a dogfight.
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I don't know a single thing about flying a plane and I don't care about the inaccuracies of it in a freaking Top Gun movie. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the original because every part of the movie that didn't involve flying a plane was absolute dog ****, horribly written and horribly acted. In Maverick, every part of the movie that didn't involve flying a plane was also absolute dog ****, but at least the non flying parts of the movie were kept to a bare minimum, which makes this movie much better than the first.
 
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