Strangely Holland might be my least favorite Spider-Man. Not to say he is bad but I just really like the others a lot.

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My deepest apologies that you have to move your finger for a few extra seconds to scroll past some extra posts, on a single night, just one time in, like, every other blockbuster movie thread. I can only imagine how harrowing that must be, and how tired your finger must get.

Seriously, though, "meaningless" is subjective, people here ask me all the time when reactions are dropping, and not everyone wants to go sifting through Twitter to find them. Also, I don't find that they "distract" from discussion at all, seeing as they're often one of the main drivers of discussion, in the week or two leading up to a release.

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Thought you could take some constructive criticism to make this forum better, my bad.

It's not constructive criticism. It's you a handful of others finding reason to b*tch about anything and everything I do, no matter how innocuous.

Don't you have better things to do than post other people's ridiculous tweets? Nope is better than Hitchcock…ad nauseum for 40 tweets…bleh.

It takes maybe twenty minutes tops, if that, once every month or so, if that. Again, it's legit hilarious that it annoys you to this degree.

Whatever…you do you and I'll just ignore it.

Thank god!

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The only complaints I've had with your are too many tweets and making a "thanks for the spoiler" joke about a movie that I should have seen years ago.

Don't know why I'm being lumped in with those other people. Don't like my opinion..fine but inferring I'm a bigot is out of bounds.

Inferring you're a bigot? What in the world are you talking about?

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Inferring you're a bigot? What in the world are you talking about?

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You get a lot of crap from people calling you a woke lefty Californian...right?

Who would do that? A jerk, Bigot, Right Winger.

I guess Bigot was too strong a word.

I stand corrected.

Really liked this movie, but it just ran long for me. Outstanding visuals as others have mentioned, and I will watch again when it comes to streaming.

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Is there a spoiler thread? Is this where we talk about the contents of the movie itself?

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This was a serious question. I've seen people using spoiler quotes, which I appreciate, but there's so much fun stuff to breakdown from the film and that's tough to do with hyperlinks and content. Are we needing a second thread for actual discussion?

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Is there a spoiler thread? Is this where we talk about the contents of the movie itself?

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This was a serious question. I've seen people using spoiler quotes, which I appreciate, but there's so much fun stuff to breakdown from the film and that's tough to do with hyperlinks and content. Are we needing a second thread for actual discussion?

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I know spoiler means a lot of different things, but I think discussing Easter eggs and other basic content is fine.

I think if you give away something like Miles Morales only talks to Gwen Stacy because only she sees dead people, and Miles is in fact, dead, would be a spoiler. Asking a question if Peter Parkedcar could do a future crossover with Lighning McQueen is not a spoiler.

SIAP, but basically Marvel and Sony are confirming this is connected to the multiverse saga and the studios are working together on this.







This is exciting to me on so many levels as it sets up so much moving forward. I have felt like the MCU had been floundering a bit and this might be a spark that re-ignites things and gets it all back on track. Should be fun to watch moving forward.

Yeah, I don't know that I'd take all those Easter eggs as signs that the Spiderverse movies are part of the MCU multiverse. They're definitely using some of the same source material, but I don't think the plan is to mesh them together to tell the same bigger story.

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Yeah, I don't know that I'd take all those Easter eggs as signs that the Spiderverse movies are part of the MCU multiverse. They're definitely using some of the same source material, but I don't think the plan is to mesh them together to tell the same bigger story.

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Per that first video, it sounds like it was confirmed by the studios (insiders, not the actual studios-see edit). I might be wrong and will rewatch it. I think this particular story will come to it's own conclusion, but I do think it will play into the MCU multiverse story line overall. We shall see. But the fact that they had a reference to NWH and the MCU Prowler/Uncle Aaron (variant at least) sure seems like it is pointing to the overall MCU. I do think it all ties together with Kang and the Secret Wars...

Edit:After re-watching, Den of Nerds guy claims that insiders have confirmed that the 2 studios have been working together "on this multiverse". I believe him.

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I don't think Kang is behind this per say. But he is out there in the same overall universe. What is going on in this movie is more of a result of Sylvie stabbing He Who Remains/Kang and the fracturing of the Sacred Timeline. I could see this getting wrapped up in the 3rd installment of the Spider-verse saga and then there is a post credit scene hinting at Kang in some way. If the studios indeed are working together, and why not as it actually makes great sense for them to, Sony very well may throw Disney/Marvel a bone and help hype the MCU's direction in all of this. I think, as one of the videos says, Spidey or multiple Spideys could play the biggest role in the Kang Dynasty and SW saga.

The fact is, just watching the movie and taking account of all the references from the mention of the Dr. Strange and Peter in NWH to the use of the exact timeline to the live action Aaron, it is under the umbrella of the larger multiverse that Kang is trying to control. And I think it is great. I love the multiverse overall. And I actually really like the Kang concept as taken from the comics and the He Who Remains variant from Loki. I do question the way Kang the Conqueror was so easily defeated in Ant-Man (a movie I actually liked a lot better than some) as he should be a serious threat big bad yet ants (yes-super smart ones but still) beat him. But what if this is a much younger and less experienced He Who Remains? He didn't die. He was sucked into that thing at the end. I think he is out there still. Marvel has a time to fix their Kang issues, so I am not too worried.

Finally, I have no problem if Kang is in this somehow. Look, Kang is the big bad of this phase, and he is a formidable and great villain. Granted, the actor needs to get out of hot water and that has left uncertainty over things. Plus, there is a chance that Marvel pivots and makes Doom the real big bad behind all of this potentially given all that has gone down with Johnathan Majors, but as of now we have seen Kang twice, in Loki and in Ant-Man. I thought he was fantastic in Loki. He wasn't terrible in Ant-Man, but was defeated too easily. But the issue with Kang in the comics wasn't that you couldn't defeat him. It was that there were so many of him. Again, I think Marvel can right the ship and capture the magic that had with the first 3 phases.

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Yeah, I don't know that I'd take all those Easter eggs as signs that the Spiderverse movies are part of the MCU multiverse. They're definitely using some of the same source material, but I don't think the plan is to mesh them together to tell the same bigger story.

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Per that first video, it sounds like it was confirmed by the studios (insiders, not the actual studios-see edit). I might be wrong and will rewatch it. I think this particular story will come to it's own conclusion, but I do think it will play into the MCU multiverse story line overall. We shall see. But the fact that they had a reference to NWH and the MCU Prowler/Uncle Aaron (variant at least) sure seems like it is pointing to the overall MCU. I do think it all ties together with Kang and the Secret Wars...

Edit:After re-watching, Den of Nerds guy claims that insiders have confirmed that the 2 studios have been working together "on this multiverse". I believe him.

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I think he's misinterpreting the "studios working together" sentiment. The studios are absolutely working together to create Spiderverse. But their use of content from the MCU films isn't a clue that these films are consequential to the larger story being told in the MCU with the Kang storyline. More just another example of how they pull material from all over - comics, books, Legos and other toys, cartoons, tv shows, Sony Spider-Man movies, and now MCU films. Could they end this next movie with some reference to Kang or lead into the next MCU phase with some other reference, but that sort of flies in the face of everything else we've heard from the Spiderverse show-runners. Part of what makes their movies and characters so fun is that we don't have to string together meaning to all the other Marvel properties as they exist in the live action films.

I could be wrong. They might want to roll out a live action Miles Morales in Secret Wars. That'd be huge… but also kind of a waste for a D+ show imo. Maybe the final after credits scene in the next one shows a young Miles getting bit by a radioactive spider in the 19999 universe? (Which is confusing because they mention Dr. Strange and the nerd being from 19999 but I think the Marvel team has insisted that their films are set in 616, but it's honestly confusing.

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Which is confusing because they mention Dr. Strange and the nerd being from 19999 but I think the Marvel team has insisted that their films are set in 616, but it's honestly confusing.

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That is a good and major point. I think each universe that is aware of the multiverse has its own numbering system. 838 calls 19999999 (or whatever) 616, while Miguel's calls it 1999999. Unless they are collaborating, they wouldn't know what arbitrary system other universes use to map and organize things. What is interesting is how Mysterio (or the guy working for him more accurately) came up with the same numbering system as 838? Is that guy from that universe? Was it just a coincidental guess? Will we ever know?

In the end, you may be correct about all of this. These Easter egg guys get a lot correct but miss on a lot too. That is what makes it so fun.

the movie was well made and very entertaining.

One thing with the multiverse (Marvel, DC) is that I have trouble really caring if a hero makes it, or if a villain is defeated because there are 9999929339 other versions out there.
This movie did a great job of making me care about versions of characters and their individual struggles.
But thinking about Miles Morales from 1999999 or 838b or 1997aaaaaa after the fact puts me back into the camp of why should I care... maybe I need to not think about it.

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the movie was well made and very entertaining.

One thing with the multiverse (Marvel, DC) is that I have trouble really caring if a hero makes it, or if a villain is defeated because there are 9999929339 other versions out there.
This movie did a great job of making me care about versions of characters and their individual struggles.
But thinking about Miles Morales from 1999999 or 838b or 1997aaaaaa after the fact puts me back into the camp of why should I care... maybe I need to not think about it.

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I look at it like each variant is really a separate person. Their still an individual. What makes you care about them is great writing and character development. Yes, without that, it is easy not to care.

Saw this last night with the kids. I loved it and they loved it.

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This happened to us as well. Saw it one of the best theaters in the world (Chinese Theater IMAX) and we could hardly hear a world she said during the opening sequence. Made even weirder by the fact that the rest of the movie was perfectly fine, sound-wise.

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Looks like they have acknowledged the issue.

We tried to see it Thursday in Houston. A really bad storm hit and the theater lost power right after it started. After the sound was all kinds of messed up. At the beginning where the principal was talking to his parents you couldn't hear ***** I guess maybe it was this issue rather than the storm.

Luckily the theater gave us vouchers for two movies per ticket we bought so guess we'll try again this week because we just left because they didn't have an ETA on when they'd fix it. If it was just my wife and I we would have stuck it out, especially since it was one of those theaters where you get dinner, but we had our 8 and 4 year old. It was already past 6 when it started at 515 so it would have been late for our youngest even if they got it started at 630.

Good movie, drags towards the end a bit. Pacing also a bit surprising because of the to be continued. We weren't aware of the cliff hanger either, so my daughter is rowdy as hell about that.

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Good movie, drags towards the end a bit. Pacing also a bit surprising because of the to be continued. We weren't aware of the cliff hanger either, so my daughter is rowdy as hell about that.

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The group of teenage boys next to us we're pissed, haha!

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watched it again this afternoon

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I also watched it again. It was enjoyable to catch all the little moments I didn't catch the first time. Also, I'm not sure if it was intentional but Captain Stacy sure looked a lot like Paul Newman

Sorry to break up the circle jerk, but I hated it.

I know I am not the target audience. Father in law loves going to the movies and we will be gone on father's day, so we all went to the movies. My kids are young, so it had to be a kids movie. Son loves spider man, he is almost 5, and he already saw the mario bros, so spidey it was.

I hate this new weird animation. Reminds me of the animation crap my stoner friends would get baked out and watch 20 years ago. Spidey in somekind of space time continuum seemed a stretch I wasn't willing to make. I had no idea about anything going into the movie. Hell, I didn't even know it existed before I got informed we were going. I didn't know about the to be continued and was pissed to not be able to close the book on this. I heard Spiderman and thought it would be spiderman fighting against some terrible creature and cracking wisely. Boy was I wrong.

Anyway, if this is your kind of thing, you probably enjoyed it. If this isn't your thing, take your kids bowling.

My wife is also not a fan of the new animation style. Her and my daughter opted to go see Little Mermaid instead. It's funny you mention stoner friends because I really want to watch this movie after taking a couple edibles.

This would also be too much of a stretch for my pops. Hell, a man who gets magic spider abilities and dresses in a costume was already too much of a stretch for him.

I am amazed at how many of you guys have the free time to go to a movie theater and see the same film multiple times. I am clearly doing something wrong.

I get it. This is how I felt playing my nephew in the newer Super Smash Bros after growing up with the N64 version.

Glad your kids got to see it.