Pushing him is a bit of a reach. He may have some good info/insights so I have linked some of that here. I am fully aware that many in this field don't think that much of him, I am just trying to figure out why. The only thing I'm aware of at this point is this planned flare thing at one of his CE5 "events". When I became aware of that, I contacted his group. I'm not naive enough to believe they could not have been lying. Perhaps it was someone trying to do something to discredit him? We don't know. I've posted one of the posts on this thread to a post I made on Richard Dolans site as Greer is not one of the most respected guys there as well. Trying to get some specifics as to why people view him as a fraud etc. You guys will have to let me know what this grifter thing is.
It does appear he is in contact with many trying to get this disclosure thing over the hump. And he has been a proponent of that despite any of his odd takes. The only 2 items I have questions about with him are his beliefs on abductions and the goodness of all nhi. Some of claims etc...perhaps a bit out there? Each of us will have to judge that on their own. And we do.

But, I won't be posting any Greer stuff here going forward so you can relax. We are all navigating this together. I'm sure we are not the first civilization to do it. Does that mean I think all his information is bogus? Absolutely not and that can be discussed on other threads.

What do we think about Sean Kirkpatrick?

David Grusch gives the Sol Foundation 2023 Symposium Closing Remarks

Has the good and honorable Chuck Schumer resurfaced?

Leonard H. Stringfield said:

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You guys will have to let me know what this grifter thing is.

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You should attend his Deep Disclosure event. Might give you a little insight.

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David Grusch gives the Sol Foundation 2023 Symposium Closing Remarks

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Looking forward to watching some of these. I feel like I've heard enough of Grusch at this point though.

https://www.youtube.com/@_SolFoundation

Professionalizing a new field of inquiry and human endeavor takes effort and time. This began literally decades ago through the efforts of many. This culminated more recently with the videos brought forward by Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon and the NYTimes article by Ralph…

— Garry P. Nolan (@GarryPNolan) February 12, 2024

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Professionalizing a new field of inquiry and human endeavor takes effort and time. This began literally decades ago through the efforts of many. This culminated more recently with the videos brought forward by Lue Elizondo and Chris Mellon and the NYTimes article by Ralph Blumenthal, Leslie Kean, and Helen Cooper. This includes the efforts of Tom Delonge, the several Navy pilots who have come forward, Dave Grusch, and Karl Nell. Extraordinary efforts by Senators Schumer, Rounds, Gillibrand, Rubio, several house representatives (too many to mention here, but kudos and thanks)... and MANY others are all part of a relay race.

We hand the baton off and move forward now in an academic & commercial leg of the race with other groups like ASA, UAP Coalition for Scientific Research, Galileo Project, and many long-standing public legacy organizations.

The SOL Foundation thanks Stanford University and Medical School for their unmitigated support in putting together this conference, and we are incredibly thankful to the speakers and participants for their efforts for the conference. Moreover, we immensely thank the film and sound editors Matt Ford, Fritz Kramer, Jan Carson Weatherby, and David West (videography) for making the talks fantastic and the sound so incredibly professional.

Special thanks to my lab members and Alexander Boulton (PhD student in Applied Physics) for organizing the graduate student helpers and helping set up the conference.

Pass the baton:
https://youtube.com/@_SolFoundation/videos

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Perhaps? You guys ready for the next round of hearings/whistleblowers?

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Has the good and honorable Chuck Schumer resurfaced?

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I know Schumer had that bill that your heroes gutted, but I feel like Rubio is the head disclosure figure from the Senate.

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Perhaps? You guys ready for the next round of hearings/whistleblowers?

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I wouldn't be surprised if the whistleblower mentioned in the video you posted a while back does come forward soon. If he did fly them (or command those that did), he should have some interesting stories.


However, I have no faith in the gov't getting anywhere with the hearings at this point, and surely nothing public from them.

I think the one that has the potential to blow the lid off is the Marine-Herrera Supposedly, he has already spoken to the congressional team and they are aware of his claims. Paints a pretty dark picture of what our gov is involved in and the extremes that both the gov and contractors will take to keep a lid on things. I've Mellon made some good comments at this SOL Foundation group conference in regarding just what all disclosure might mean. Need to take a look-see at that. It should be on YT I would guess.

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I think the one that has the potential to blow the lid off is the Marine-Herrera Supposedly, he has already spoken to the congressional team and they are aware of his claims. Paints a pretty dark picture of what our gov is involved in and the extremes that both the gov and contractors will take to keep a lid on things. I've Mellon made some good comments at this SOL Foundation group conference in regarding just what all disclosure might mean. Need to take a look-see at that. It should be on YT I would guess.

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I don't consider Herrera a "whistleblower". He saw some stuff but has no corraboration from anyone that was supposedly with him. Interesting story, but all just unverifiable hearsay.


And, yes they pretty much all got uploaded today.

Yeah, I'm just relaying what others have been terming him. Witness might be a better term. Perhaps he will be brought in for the next round of hearings. Certainly needs to be. He claims he has been in contact with others that were present at their event over in Indonesia, but they are afraid to come out for fear of their lives etc. His account dove-tails with what some have claimed had been taking place through the years. One item that they had just assumed was potentially happening turned out to be incorrect he has said. At least in his instance. He thought drugs were involved when more recently it was told to him it was human trafficking. Both are clearly bad ju-ju.

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You have me confused, good sir.

Mike Turner Urges Declassification of Files Due to National Threat! UFO Related?

Time will tell I suppose.

Thank you sir. Always room for a chuckle.

Anyone catch the new alien doc-series on Netflix, Rael, the Alien Prophet?

What's the latest malarkey that Stephen Greer's been spewing?

He's a great follow on X, and found him courtesy of this thread

Good discussion here. It's clear the topic won't be going away anytime soon.

Thwaites Glacier

Worth watching

- Huge portions of the continent blacked out from maps

- Structure
https://www.google.com/maps/place/69%C2%B053'42.0%22S+38%C2%B042'22.0%22E/@-69.8947577,38.7047584,15z/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d-69.895!4d38.7061111

Night Country?

Very interesting and worth watching more than once to catch some of the details that go by pretty quickly.

• Burchett and Gaetz went with her to Hurlburt Field (AF Special Ops Command inside of Eglin AFB) to talk to whistleblower witnesses there
• The base commander tried to stop them, and then bugged out on "leave" during the meeting
• Members of "the agency" were also there trying to supervise their visit in some way
• Emphasis on the "interdimensional non-biologic beings" description, not "from another planet per se"

Fascinating to hear more members of Congress investigating this subject and dealing with roadblocks and more secrecy. If there's really truly nothing there, why all the DOD and IC pushback?

I will be super interested if there is any future crossover between this subject and the recent Mike Benz interview.

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If there's really truly nothing there, why all the DOD and IC pushback?

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Time and resources.

Fantastic new video from American Alchemy/Jesse Michaels. Less UAP-focused (though it's certainly touched on throughout), and more about our own mid-century attempts to crack anti-gravity, if those efforts ever actually got anywhere, etc. The whole thing is just under two hours, and can get relatively dense at times, but it's something I think most everyone here will find interesting, no matter what side you fall on the UAP issue.

Full documentary in the YouTube embed, trailer in the first tweet below...

100 years ago, an American inventor named Thomas Townsend Brown believed he found a link between electromagnetism and gravity. He was immediately written off as a quack. But Paul Schatzkin @driver49 spent a decade plus researching him, and the truth (as you'll find from his… pic.twitter.com/i1YpeTHMCD

— Jesse Michels (@AlchemyAmerican) February 23, 2024

💰 Jesse Michels offers a $50,000 bounty to anyone who can prove or disprove the Biefeld-Brown Effect!

The conditions for claiming this bounty are that the person has to conduct the experiment in a vacuum chamber to prove that the thrust effect isn’t due to ion wind and the… pic.twitter.com/ajZ9N6kkCG

— Sky Fire News! (@SkyFireNews) February 23, 2024

I haven't been paying much attention to this recently. Have any of the other whistleblowers come forward yet? What about better pics or videos? Most recent one I saw was that "jellyfish" video which seemed fake but I didn't read that much about it just watched video.

We're still in a bit of an early-in-the-year lull. Government-wise, it's also obviously an election year, while the Israel-Hamas war, the Yemen conflict, etc have kept many pre-occupied as well.

That said, David Grusch is expected to release a big op-ed "in February," where he's apparently been given clearance to say a bit more than he has already, which will no doubt spark further discussion. No other whistleblowers have come forward yet, but those in-the-know continue to say that they'll likely be coming forward later this year.

In other words, we're basically in a predicted/expected wait-and-see mode for now.

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We're still in a bit of an early-in-the-year lull. Government-wise, it's also obviously an election year, while the Israel-Hamas war, the Yemen conflict, etc have kept many pre-occupied as well.

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Truly not meant to spark an argument but I feel all those things would pale in comparison to true disclosure. In my mind it would almost be that moment the earth would truly stand still.

Disclosure, though, isn't just a switch that can be flipped. It's apparently a tug of war going on within the government. And when the people who want disclosure, and are fighting for disclosure, can't devote the proper time/attention to it, it falls by the wayside. It's also an incredibly long, drawn out process, considering it would be illegal to disclose any of it without going through the proper channels, getting the proper clearances, etc.

I was mainly just talking about further hearings and stuff like that being delayed due to the attention of Congress/the Senate/etc being elsewhere right now.

That said, like we've been saying for a while now, disclosure is almost assuredly never going to happen willingly or unforced. It's going to take some whistleblower - or a group of whistleblowers - leaking something undeniable that finally forces the hand of the supposed gatekeepers.

The Why Files (YouTube) had a good show on Antarctica this week, with more coming. We do have plenty of military personnel detailing sightings - if you trust Linda Howe, which I mostly do (relationship wise, not necessarily her personal interpretations).