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IMO The government appears to be playing the long game, betting that UAP journalists won't unveil any groundbreaking information they will have issues countering. Strongly worded responses to the AARO report are unlikely to circulate too widely among the general public for people to turn the temperature up and demand answers.

The Feds' strategy appears more precisely calculated than some pundits are willing to acknowledge IMO.

TL;DR The Feds don't appear to be too scared of the UAP journalists and thinks the general public is stupid and/or uninterested.
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That's possible, but there are also bipartisan efforts in the house and senate though; so it's not just journalist.
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Let's hope they can keep that bipartisanship up when November rolls around.
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Well said. The spooks aren't scared of journalists and the public is, to be kind, easily distracted. We might get disclosure some day, but it won't be from the US government
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Gov officials are already disclosing. IMO, we crossed the rubicon years ago and they will have no choice at some point. When..who knows. There ARE factions in both the Pentagon and intelligence agencies that are supporting a disclosure. The battle behind the scenes is ongoing and intense from what I hear. There is a LOT of interest from the general population in the subject. That will be hard to quell.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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I hope you are right, but I worked in that world, I've seen the mentality up close. I'm not optimistic. Those guys don't like to be put in positions where they have more questions than answers.

But again, I hope you're right, it would be an amazing time to be to be alive.
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Agristotle said:

I hope you are right, but I worked in that world, I've seen the mentality up close. I'm not optimistic. Those guys don't like to be put in positions where they have more questions than answers.

But again, I hope you're right, it would be an amazing time to be to be alive.
Hence, the ongoing cover-up since at least 1947, if not earlier. Many of the answers to the questions are in plain site..it's choosing to ask those folks with the correct answers that is the problem currently. The fact that this issue is even being openly discussed is pretty amazing. Apparently, we have some help in this situation.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Pentagon's report on UAPs has errors, falsehoods: Ross Coulthart | Morning in America

Kuddos to News Nation for sharing the news. Most legacy MSN sites refuse to mention the subject. My gosh that will change once they get "permission".
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Craft retrieval photos disprove AARO UAP report: Pentagon Papers lawyer | Reality Check

Begins at 4pm..should be interesting


edit: Craft retrieval photos disprove AARO UAP report: Pentagon Papers lawyer | Reality Check
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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I want to post a gif of the Millennium Falcon crashing into Starkiller Base but my phone is struggling to load the images.
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UFO News Round-up Eric Burleson, Ross Coulthart and More
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Full episode...

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UFO Coverup: The Pentagon Wall of Silence and Lies

Danny Sheehan doesn't mince words here. Spells out what has been taking place for decades. Outstanding interview of him via The Good Trouble Show with Matt Ford.
Really recommend giving this one a listen.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Top historian/researcher Richard Dolan gives his thoughts on where we are.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Unravelling the UFO issue w/ Danny Sheehan (whistleblowers, deathbed testimony, AARO report & more)

more from gov attorney Danny Sheehan
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Text of the tweet/post:

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BREAKING NEWS:
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT PAYDIRT:
JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF WORLDWIDE UNIDENTIFIED ANOMALOUS PHENOMENA REPORTING PROCEDURES (MAY 19, 2023)

By Douglas Dean Johnson

On May 19, 2023, the Joint Staff (J3, Operations; J36 Homeland Defense Division) of the Joint Chiefs of Staff disseminated to all unified military commands worldwide a set of uniform procedures to be followed for gathering data and reporting on contemporary military encounters with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), using a detailed standard reporting template.

I have now obtained a copy of that Pentagon message. I believe that its detailed contents are being made public here for the first time (if the GENADMIN message has previously been published, that publication has not come to my attention).

The message was designated as "GENADMIN Joint Staff J3 Washington DC 191452ZMAY23 Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Reporting and Material Disposition." It was disseminated as "Controlled Unclassified Information," or "CUI."

Journalist
@BrandiVincent_
referred in passing to the existence of this message in a DefenseScoop article dated August 30, 2023 ("Hicks takes direct oversight of Pentagon's UAP office; new reporting website to be launched"). I promptly asked Pentagon press officer Susan Gough to release a copy to me, but Gough replied, "I cannot provide a copy of the message to you, as it contains information that's not publicly releasable."

On August 31, 2023, I filed a FOIA request for the GENADMIN message. The Department of Defense Freedom of Information Division has now released the 9-page document to me (response letter dated March 15, 2024, received by me on March 18), with only minimal redactions. After redacting my personal information, I am now making the complete FOIA release available at the link below. (The image merely shows the first page of the document; click on the link to download the complete PDF.)

INITIAL OBSERVATIONS

Among the noteworthy aspects I see in the May 2023 Joint Staff communication:

-- An introductory paragraph states: "The U.S. government has observed UAP in or near the territory and/or operating areas of the United States, of its allies, and of its adversaries, and observing, identifying, and potentially mitigating UAP has become a growing priority for US policymakers, lawmakers, and warfighters. The potentially ubiquitous presence of UAP defines the national security implications of those anomalies, which range from operational hazards and threats to technological and intelligence surprise to adversaries' strategic miscalculations. It is imperative that DoD provide UAP incident, incursion, and engagement...reporting, data, and material for the Department's detection and mitigation of potential threats; exploitation of advanced technologies; and informing policymaker and warfighter decisions."

--Reports on UAP incidents are to be transmitted upwards with 96 hours, but any "UAP engagement reports" within 12 hours. A "UAP engagement is a kinetic or non-kinetic response to a UAP, intended to deny, disrupt, or destroy the phenomenon and/or its object(s)."

-- The ultimate nexus of collection and analysis of these reports is the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO).

-- The reporting procedures in the Joint Staff message apply only to detections or encounters "that demonstrate behaviors not readily understood by sensors or observers...[that] include but are not limited to phenomena that demonstrate apparent capabilities or material that exceed known performance envelopes." The UAP reporting procedures described in this directive do NOT apply to "incidents, incursions, and engagements by identifiable, non-anomalous phenomena (e.g., sUAS and other capabilities or materials that do not exceed known or predicted performance envelopes);" such incidents will instead "continue to be reported through established processes and mechanisms."

-- The reporting matrix seeks 11 categories of information-- among these, any UAP-displayed "anomalous characteristics/behaviors (e.g., no apparent control surfaces, extreme acceleration/direction change, detection by certain sensors but not others)," and any "UAP effects on equipment (e.g., mechanical, electrical controls and weapons systems and whether persistent or transitory").

-- AARO will coordinate the handling of any UAP "objects and material of incidents, intrusions, and engagements," but "recovery and transfer of identifiable, non-anomalous items of foreign origin...continue to be managed by the DoD FMP [Foreign Material Program]."

-- The military commands are to "enable deployment of special sensors within the AoR [area of responsibility] for the detection, observation, and identification in sensitive areas, and during testing or deployment of special capabilities."

ADDITIONAL CONTEXT

On its website, AARO calls the military reporting system defined in the May 2023 GENADMIN "Current Operational UAP Reporting." In a briefing for selected journalists on March 6, 2024, AARO Acting Director Tim Phillips said that AARO is receiving "approximately...anywhere between 90 and a 100-110 a month" through such channels.

Phillips also told the journalists, "We're trying to work out the command and control, the mechanisms on how other government entities can report UAP incidents to us. We've received a number of reports from Department of Homeland Security and their aircraft reporting to us that we follow up on."

As for civilian pilots, the AARO website states, "AARO receives UAP-related Pilot Reports (PIREPs) from the Federal Aviation Administration."

The UAP reporting system for contemporary military-associated UAP events, as set forth in the May 2023 Joint Staff message, is separate and distinct from the AARO "secure reporting" system for receiving reports "from current or former U.S. Government employees, service members, or contractor personnel with direct knowledge of U.S. Government programs or activities related to UAP dating back to 1945," which is accessible through a portal on the AARO website.

AARO does not yet employ any system for receiving UAP observation reports from the general public.
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With the lull in news we might as well ad "Was Mars nuked?" to the conversation...

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Oh boy. I sold my copy of Hoagland's "The Monuments of Mars" as soon as the 1998 hi resolution pics were released and proved that the "Face" and other "structures" on the Cydonia plain were just optical illusions. Hoagland speculated that a nuclear explosion had destroyed one of the sides of the "Pyramid" and the "Fort" just west of the "Face". I hope this guy didn't rely on Hoagland too much.


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Dan Willis has some interesting things to share.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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TCTTS said:

With the lull in news we might as well ad "Was Mars nuked?" to the conversation...



Started doing some googling and this popped up.



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Just more toothpaste that ain't going back in the tube...
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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UK Special Forces UFO Crash Recovery
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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It'd be so much more helpful if you provided a summary of these 2 hour + videos you post.
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Teddy Perkins said:

It'd be so much more helpful if you provided a summary of these 2 hour + videos you post.
Probably not going to happen. If it looks interesting watch it, if not...

Not real proficient at turning out summaries-sorry. Often times I will link them prior to watching in full. Just roll with it.

Here is discussion on the latest from James Fox, who has produced some really good documentaries related to the matter/situation/reality:

James Fox Releases Clip From NEW UFO Documentary "The Program"

"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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My son and I saw the SpaceX launch from my car while driving home, tonight. For a moment, we both were watching going wtf is that, then the patented separation happened and I knew it was SpaceX. It was pretty cool, but I expect at least a few videos to pop up in the next few days
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Pretty interesting/informative (way more info in the Tweet itself)...

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TCTTS said:

Pretty interesting/informative (way more info in the Tweet itself)...


Yes, that's an excellent demonstration of why the terminology used is so crucial to understanding what is being claimed or refuted. Words mean things.
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Paper clip was some bad ju-ju for sure.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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