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I went to the Houston shows Friday and Saturday, it was an incredible show. I go to a lot of concerts and its rare you get an artist playing a venue this size who isn't a legacy act. Taylor is as relevant with her current music today as anything she has done before and it showed. The crowd was into the whole thing which is impressive for a 3 hour, 44 song set. Even during the slower more acoustic sections no one sat down, and they were singing along just as much as they were to her big singles. The apex of the show was All Too Well, which is already a slower ballad but has been expanded to a 10 minute long song. It was just her in the middle of the stage with a guitar and the crowd was hanging on every word. Even her new stuff which was her final section was just as well received as every thing else she played. The staging and production were great but also not distracting or overbearing. There wasn't a lot of sets and she spent most of the show in the middle of this long cat walk section moving around so everyone in each section got to see her. She also some of the best stage presence out there. She's able to move things along and talk to the crowd in a way that feels both natural and personal as if you aren't in a stadium with 70k other people. I was impressed she changed up her ad libs between songs both nights so it wasn't even some prepared spiel, she really was talking off the cuff.

For an event like this where anticipating and expectations were through the roof she absolutely delivered. There are only a handful of shows i've been to where the artist is at the absolute top of their game giving a performance where you tell your self this is what this person was born to do. This was one of those events and she is that performer.
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I'm not a Swiftie but I like some of her songs. People like what they like. I don't get why folks like Phish, The Grateful Dead, or The Eagles but some people don't get why I can listen to Caamp or Bluegrass.
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emando2000 said:

Gigem314 said:

I wouldn't dismiss her as just another mindless pop princess. I respect her talent. She's a very gifted artist. She can write her own songs, sing, play guitar, and dance....few pop-stars can do all of those things together. If she ever did an acoustic show with just her on guitar...I would go see that (not for thousands).

She's resonated with teen girls and female 20-somethings, 30-somethings, and even 40-somethings in a way that no other pop artist or group has in the modern era. I just hope they don't listen to all of her personal opinions, but that aside, she's created quite the fan following.

Today's music is filled with so much parity...most pop and hip-hop artists all end up sounding similar. There isn't much depth to modern popular music...even by 'pop' standards. Taylor Swift has clearly carved out something unique...at least with her early music that put her on the map.

That being said, there's no way I'd pay that much for a concert...even if I were a diehard fan. I wouldn't even do that for Stapleton. But she clearly has a rabid fanbase willing to pay it...well, maybe some parents who are willing to pay it haha.

She can sing? Does she have rangy music? I'm sure she has some talent here but c'mon. Adele can sing. She's nowhere near that level.

Can play guitar? Oooof. That's an achievement for a "singer songwriter"?

Can dance? Another groundbreaking achievement. Dancing is easy. Especially when it's choreographed for you and practiced.

Write her own songs? I struggle with this. She may write "some" lines but I'm sure it's sliced up and produced so much that it just sort of resembles the original version. It's marketing. Same as Toms and Warby Parker. And save me with the I know someone in the industry that vouches for her. I think that I've heard 5 separate times that they know someone close to the Swift's people and that it's true. That's statistically impossible.

She's some rich man's project that had a vision for her to resonate with so many young girls. All they have to do is doll her up, produce her music and market her. Now, it's come to fruition and people are spending ridiculous cash to watch her live. It's remarkable and unbelievable. Kudos to her and those involved.
I'm not a Swiftie, but this is just a ridiculous hater take. If you're going to dismiss someone's singing, dancing, songwriting, and instrument playing, then you just have an agenda. If all you said were true, then she'd be a run of the mill musician with middling success.
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Yep. I wake up trying to tear her down, you got me.

Dude. She came out when there wasn't much for young girls to look up to. These young girls grew up and still love her. Her songs are fun and catchy. We did a video for our New Year's party with shake it out, it was a huge hit. That still doesn't equate to the ticket price.
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Ticket price is a result of supply and demand and production costs.

Good for her.
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It's always hilarious when someone says "that's stupid what they're charging for that....totally not worth it..." in their best snob voice.

Since her tickets are a product of supply and demand and her shows sold out in a matter of minutes/hours across the country (last I heard it was 14M requests for 3M tickets), by the very definition of the concept, it was 100% worth the price that they charged for the ticket. And that's not even counting what people were paying on the secondary market to get in. My wife and daughters went to one of the shows in Dallas and had an absolute blast. The wife has been to quite a few concerts in her life and ranks this one as the best she's seen: production, number of songs, quality of the sound, the whole thing was apparently fantastic.

I'm not nearly as versed in music as some of you guys in here but count me in the camp that's been slowly won over and impressed by her song writing. My daughters (5th - 10th grade) all listen to her stuff and over time, listening in while they have it on, I've realized that she has some really solid songs that don't always make it to the radio and are catchy as hell. It's also pretty wild to listen to her early country stuff from the mid 00's followed by more poppy stuff from 10-12 years back, followed immediately by new stuff that's perforated with F-bombs off of her new album.
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Taylor Swift to her fans after the Ticketmaster debacle:

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I apologize for everything I said about TS. I was dead wrong!

I just saw a clip from a recent show where TS was screaming at a security guard while simultaneously NOT skipping a lyric in the song. Now that my friends... is talent!!!

She's not Millie Vanillie level but she's without a doubt lip syncing.
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We caught the Friday show and for once the rib listened to me and we bought x2 floor tickets from the parking lot at 7:45 for a shade over $1000. About three hours earlier this would've cost well north of $3K. My wife loves her music and I enjoyed 1989 and some of the earlier stuff so I thought it would be a nice early bday gift.

Production level was top notch. I think Taylor really should have spent her entire time off working on her dancing/rhythm but you get the gifts you get.

Kudos to her for singing ~4 hours/night for 3 straight nights then heading off to the next city. I'm sure that's draining/taxing.


One thing I cannot forgive: SHE DIDN'T PLAY TIM MCGRAW!!!!!
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Wife and I bought a pair for around $260 after fees. Our dog just had a very expensive vet visit so we sold them off and made about $3K. I'll just buy all the albums and play them really loud in the house.
No ragerts.
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emando2000 said:

I apologize for everything I said about TS. I was dead wrong!

I just saw a clip from a recent show where TS was screaming at a security guard while simultaneously NOT skipping a lyric in the song. Now that my friends... is talent!!!

She's not Millie Vanillie level but she's without a doubt lip syncing.


In the clip I saw, you could hear her yelling at the security guard and missing lyrics in the song. Also, at the show I went to, she f'd up a song and started over. I don't think she's lip syncing.

She is using a backing track, which may be what you're hearing.
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Almost all artists are using backing tracks and autotune. It's the trade-off you have to make when doing a long tour and wanting to give the fans what they want every night.
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Taylor Swift isn't even remotely in my top 50 favorite singers. Honestly preferred some of her country stuff from way back, but wasn't even the biggest fan of that either. I do, however, think of her as an artist since she writes her own songs, I respect that.

I bought tickets to the Nashville show for my wife and daughters and I came along. The show itself was a spectacle unlike any I've ever seen on stage. It was incredibly well-done, well-put together, and well performed. She's definitely a pro and to perform over 3 hours straight for 3 nights in a row, the last in Nashville being in pouring rain, I believe commands respect.

Worth the money? Eh, I don't know. I tend to look at it through the lens of 5-10 years from now, I probably won't miss the money I spent, but I'll definitely remember the insanity of the show and the joy on my daughters' faces.

I definitely wouldn't have spent the money if I didn't have a wife and daughters dying to go, but I don't regret it.
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gigemJTH12 said:

There are a lot of things in pop culture that I don't "get"

But the Taylor Swift phenomenon is way at the top.

The obsession is mind blowing to me because it's almost a Beatles-like following and I don't think she's very good at all. Her songs are so corny to me.
not only that, she is gangly and a bigtime leftist who campaigns in local Tennessee politics

totally overrated

but that's millenials for ya!
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AustinAg2K said:

emando2000 said:

I apologize for everything I said about TS. I was dead wrong!

I just saw a clip from a recent show where TS was screaming at a security guard while simultaneously NOT skipping a lyric in the song. Now that my friends... is talent!!!

She's not Millie Vanillie level but she's without a doubt lip syncing.


In the clip I saw, you could hear her yelling at the security guard and missing lyrics in the song. Also, at the show I went to, she f'd up a song and started over. I don't think she's lip syncing.

She is using a backing track, which may be what you're hearing.
C'mon people, just stop. She's not as genuine as most want to believe. She's good, but some of yall are too over the top with her. I'm sure she creates a production and so many are wowed by it all. But...she's not the singer some of you are making her out to be.

There was a REK thread where some were commenting on how bad he sounded and performed, myself included. Well, that was all him. No back tracking, just him singing and not sounding his best when he did not have it. And that's how it should be if we're going to talk about Swift being one of the greats.
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I talked to a friend who went with his wife and daughter. He's a an actuary, so very much aware of numbers. He said he estimated the audience to be 95% female. Is that accurate based on what Texagers have seen?
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I'd say that's probably low.
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Philo B 93 said:

I talked to a friend who went with his wife and daughter. He's a an actuary, so very much aware of numbers. He said he estimated the audience to be 95% female. Is that accurate based on what Texagers have seen?
i have not been, but my one dad friend that took his daughter said he felt like he was 90/10 outnumbered.

the whole thing is an interesting social experiment. the insanity over tickets and prices, attendees, and then the social standing of getting tickets/not getting tickets is fascinating. there was a real social stigma to NOT getting tickets amongst teenage girls.

i have teenage boys who only like shake it off and blank spaces (IDK) ironically, so it was lost on me, but interesting nonetheless.
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c-jags said:

Philo B 93 said:

I talked to a friend who went with his wife and daughter. He's a an actuary, so very much aware of numbers. He said he estimated the audience to be 95% female. Is that accurate based on what Texagers have seen?
i have not been, but my one dad friend that took his daughter said he felt like he was 90/10 outnumbered.

the whole thing is an interesting social experiment. the insanity over tickets and prices, attendees, and then the social standing of getting tickets/not getting tickets is fascinating. there was a real social stigma to NOT getting tickets amongst teenage girls.

i have teenage boys who only like shake it off and blank spaces (IDK) ironically, so it was lost on me, but interesting nonetheless.

This is what happened. Yes Swift is insanely popular... But prices were amplified due to not FOMO but fear of being viewed socially as a mother who doesn't love their kids as much as other mothers.

You know how back in the day you had your "HOT CHRISTMAS TOY!" and parents would kill themselves doing whatever they could to make sure it was acquired for Sally?

Take that and bring it into the social media age where every single mother knows every single other mother that did and did not acquire Taylor Swift tickets for their child.
 
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