The perfect gif response. Jim is the guy to provide a rundown on something.Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:The Porkchop Express said:gigemJTH12 said:
There are a lot of things in pop culture that I don't "get"
But the Taylor Swift phenomenon is way at the top.
The obsession is mind blowing to me because it's almost a Beatles-like following and I don't think she's very good at all. Her songs are so corny to me.
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Swifties are such weirdos
Star Wars guy says hold my lightsaber.
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Taylor Swift is a top ten pop songwriter dead or alive. There, I said it.
I get enjoying an artist and paying a premium to see a show, but what I don't get is the 30&40 something's dressing up like teenagers in sequins and glitter for the show.
Edited to add I don't get 40&50 something's wear costumes to a movie premiere either.
Edited to add I don't get 40&50 something's wear costumes to a movie premiere either.
LOL..Got the trollin goin up...on a tuesday!Head Ninja In Charge said:
Taylor Swift is a top ten pop songwriter dead or alive. There, I said it.
That was a good one
Anyone that has 70% of their post on Premium where people obsess over the decision of high school boys shouldn't be calling another group weirdos
wangus12 said:I mean c'mon, these are lyrics to one of the top Beatles songsgigemJTH12 said:
There are a lot of things in pop culture that I don't "get"
But the Taylor Swift phenomenon is way at the top.
The obsession is mind blowing to me because it's almost a Beatles-like following and I don't think she's very good at all. Her songs are so corny to me.
He Bag production
He got walrus gumboat
He got Ono sideboard
He one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knees
Hold you in his arms, yeah,
You can feel his disease
Come together, right now
Over me
I imagine John Lennon writing this after having a gay gang bang while on an acid trip. It's actually kind of believable...
This happens across all genres that I've seen. Fans tend to where stuff in relation to the artist.hurleyag said:
I get enjoying an artist and paying a premium to see a show, but what I don't get is the 30&40 something's dressing up like teenagers in sequins and glitter for the show.
I respect TS the artist, but she's not my cup of tea.emando2000 said:. . .Gigem314 said:
I wouldn't dismiss her as just another mindless pop princess. I respect her talent. She's a very gifted artist. She can write her own songs, sing, play guitar, and dance....few pop-stars can do all of those things together. If she ever did an acoustic show with just her on guitar...I would go see that (not for thousands).
She's resonated with teen girls and female 20-somethings, 30-somethings, and even 40-somethings in a way that no other pop artist or group has in the modern era. I just hope they don't listen to all of her personal opinions, but that aside, she's created quite the fan following.
Today's music is filled with so much parity...most pop and hip-hop artists all end up sounding similar. There isn't much depth to modern popular music...even by 'pop' standards. Taylor Swift has clearly carved out something unique...at least with her early music that put her on the map.
That being said, there's no way I'd pay that much for a concert...even if I were a diehard fan. I wouldn't even do that for Stapleton. But she clearly has a rabid fanbase willing to pay it...well, maybe some parents who are willing to pay it haha.
Write her own songs? I struggle with this. She may write "some" lines but I'm sure it's sliced up and produced so much that it just sort of resembles the original version. It's marketing. Same as Toms and Warby Parker. And save me with the I know someone in the industry that vouches for her. I think that I've heard 5 separate times that they know someone close to the Swift's people and that it's true. That's statistically impossible.
. . .
That being said, Ryan Adams did a full cover of Swift's 1989 album channeling Bruce Springsteen during his Nebraska era.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ryan-adams-on-his-full-album-taylor-swift-cover-you-just-have-to-mean-it-59783/
Father John Misty thought it was a grotesque stunt, so he covered Ryan Adams covering Taylor Swift, but putting a Lou Reed/Velvet Underground spin on it. The results of the put down were awesome.
https://consequence.net/2016/04/father-john-misty-calls-ryan-adams-cover-of-taylor-swifts-1989-a-grotesque-stunt/
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Taylor Swift is a top ten pop songwriter dead or alive. There, I said it.
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Middle aged dude here who loves TSwift and I woulda gone with my fam if we coulda landed tix under $200 per person and if my schedule allowed.
She's really talented, writes well, and seems like she's a pretty decent person (from the outside at least). Also not gonna lie that psychologically I probably kinda became more a fan of hers when she got upstaged by Kanye that one year and ever since then wanted her to be successful. (And ironically, while Beyonce is pretty big time, TSwift is probably bigger by a mile now)
She's really talented, writes well, and seems like she's a pretty decent person (from the outside at least). Also not gonna lie that psychologically I probably kinda became more a fan of hers when she got upstaged by Kanye that one year and ever since then wanted her to be successful. (And ironically, while Beyonce is pretty big time, TSwift is probably bigger by a mile now)
I'm not really one, but I do like her music. I'm just interested in what people who dislike her see as good music. Just a question.gigemJTH12 said:
Swifties are such weirdos
Not sure why the need to tear down something that other people like is so prevalent.
I'm no fan, but the the thing that bugs me a whole lot more than any music is the deification of her. A friend of mine has a 20-year-old daughter who views TS as the moral authority in her life. The wife of a former head coach I used to work for went to the Tampa show and described it as the most important event of her life (this is a woman in her mid-50s with two grown daughters).
I just can't wrap my head around that.
I just can't wrap my head around that.
"Well, if you can’t have a great season, at least ruin somebody else’s." - Olin Buchanan
She's only 33 and has the market totally cornered right now. If she continues her career across a lifespan, she's probably going to make more money than any other artist.
$3000 to see Taylor Swift? The proper response to your little princess?
You should've said no, you should've gone "nah"
You should've thought twice before you told her she could go
You should've said no, you should've gone "nah"
You should've thought twice before you told her she could go
The Porkchop Express said:I'm not really one, but I do like her music. I'm just interested in what people who dislike her see as good music. Just a question.gigemJTH12 said:
Swifties are such weirdos
Not sure why the need to tear down something that other people like is so prevalent.
It's less about tearing her down, and more about why she has become such a universal pop sensation. It is rare.
The Porkchop Express said:I'm not really one, but I do like her music. I'm just interested in what people who dislike her see as good music. Just a question.gigemJTH12 said:
Swifties are such weirdos
Not sure why the need to tear down something that other people like is so prevalent.
You say that, but it's an incredibly insecure response to someone simply saying they don't get her. I don't either.
People could say the same about Star Wars, and I really don't care.
The usual suspects are complaining on this thread, Swift is a liberal, and liberals are draft dodging child groomers, so they hate her and only listen to Ted Nugent.
I don't care who really wrote it, but "Since You've Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson is better than anything Taylor Swift has ever sung. "Because of You" as well.
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The usual suspects are complaining on this thread, Swift is a liberal, and liberals are draft dodging child groomers, so they hate her and only listen to Ted Nugent.
Your post is the first one that mentions anything political, you loser
Its probably no different than how many young people felt about The Beatles in the 60s and Michael Jackson in the 80s.ABattJudd said:
I'm no fan, but the the thing that bugs me a whole lot more than any music is the deification of her. A friend of mine has a 20-year-old daughter who views TS as the moral authority in her life. The wife of a former head coach I used to work for went to the Tampa show and described it as the most important event of her life (this is a woman in her mid-50s with two grown daughters).
I just can't wrap my head around that.
I find it interesting how I haven't heard one thing about the sound not being good in NRG. It's almost like the quality of the artist and their sound crew matters.
Just shake it off.gigemJTH12 said:
There are a lot of things in pop culture that I don't "get"
But the Taylor Swift phenomenon is way at the top.
The obsession is mind blowing to me because it's almost a Beatles-like following and I don't think she's very good at all. Her songs are so corny to me.
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Even within the show, the caliber of the team matters. The sound for the openers is meh at best, but when she starts it is very good.AgLA06 said:
I find it interesting how I haven't heard one thing about the sound not being good in NRG. It's almost like the quality of the artist and their sound crew matters.
Or that they were going to like the performance no matter what.AgLA06 said:
I find it interesting how I haven't heard one thing about the sound not being good in NRG. It's almost like the quality of the artist and their sound crew matters.
I saw Willie Nelson at The Moody Theater about 10 years ago maybe. Age caught up with him and he was talking through his entire set. He could barely sing and holding notes was completely out of the question.
After the show we were discussing it and how he's not the same, but I enjoyed his show in a small venue. A guy with us remarked, "Really? I thought he sounded just fine." He clearly was offended, but I was lost for words. He was in complete denial.
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It's "Since U Been Gone". Kelly Clarkson's voice is insanely good.Brittmoore Car Club said:
I don't care who really wrote it, but "Since You've Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson is better than anything Taylor Swift has ever sung. "Because of You" as well.
And the number of people at the concert. I'm sure every seat had a butt in it as did majority of the floor area. The sound will be a lot different for that than at the rodeo where there's loads of open space and empty seats for the sound to echo off of.AgLA06 said:
I find it interesting how I haven't heard one thing about the sound not being good in NRG. It's almost like the quality of the artist and their sound crew matters.
Kelly Clarkson's "Kellyoke" segment on her show -- where she covers songs from different genres -- is amazing.GarlandAg2012 said:It's "Since U Been Gone". Kelly Clarkson's voice is insanely good.Brittmoore Car Club said:
I don't care who really wrote it, but "Since You've Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson is better than anything Taylor Swift has ever sung. "Because of You" as well.
Not only can she sing any style of music, but she often does it better than the original artist.
I'm just curious. not sure why you need to call me insecure.Brian Earl Spilner said:The Porkchop Express said:I'm not really one, but I do like her music. I'm just interested in what people who dislike her see as good music. Just a question.gigemJTH12 said:
Swifties are such weirdos
Not sure why the need to tear down something that other people like is so prevalent.
You say that, but it's an incredibly insecure response to someone simply saying they don't get her. I don't either.
People could say the same about Star Wars, and I really don't care.
May be the best thing I've heard in a decade.Faustus said:
Probably because of you saying this --The Porkchop Express said:I'm just curious. not sure why you need to call me insecure.Brian Earl Spilner said:The Porkchop Express said:I'm not really one, but I do like her music. I'm just interested in what people who dislike her see as good music. Just a question.gigemJTH12 said:
Swifties are such weirdos
Not sure why the need to tear down something that other people like is so prevalent.
You say that, but it's an incredibly insecure response to someone simply saying they don't get her. I don't either.
People could say the same about Star Wars, and I really don't care.
Please list all of your favorite musical acts for comparison and dissection by the group.
That doesn't read like curiosity. That reads like wanting to dismiss their question/opinion about Taylor Swift because of their musical tastes.
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Facts. She and Ariana Grande have the musical impressions down.EclipseAg said:Kelly Clarkson's "Kellyoke" segment on her show -- where she covers songs from different genres -- is amazing.GarlandAg2012 said:It's "Since U Been Gone". Kelly Clarkson's voice is insanely good.Brittmoore Car Club said:
I don't care who really wrote it, but "Since You've Been Gone" by Kelly Clarkson is better than anything Taylor Swift has ever sung. "Because of You" as well.
Not only can she sing any style of music, but she often does it better than the original artist.
For the purposes of TPE's "curiosity", I have nothing against popular music and listen to plenty of pop music, from pretty much all eras.
Love MJ and other 80's pop/new wave, BSB are a guilty pleasure since I grew up right in the height of their popularity, although newer artists I haven't really kept up with. Probably the only current artist I listen to regularly on Spotify is Kygo.
All that said, the over-the-top love for Taylor Swift is something that confounds me. I got Britney, I got Gaga, and I get Beyonce, but not so much with Taylor. Sure, she's attractive, but so are most singers.
But I will say that I don't know any of her music outside of Shake It Off.
Love MJ and other 80's pop/new wave, BSB are a guilty pleasure since I grew up right in the height of their popularity, although newer artists I haven't really kept up with. Probably the only current artist I listen to regularly on Spotify is Kygo.
All that said, the over-the-top love for Taylor Swift is something that confounds me. I got Britney, I got Gaga, and I get Beyonce, but not so much with Taylor. Sure, she's attractive, but so are most singers.
But I will say that I don't know any of her music outside of Shake It Off.
emando2000 said:She can sing? Does she have rangy music? I'm sure she has some talent here but c'mon. Adele can sing. She's nowhere near that level.Gigem314 said:
I wouldn't dismiss her as just another mindless pop princess. I respect her talent. She's a very gifted artist. She can write her own songs, sing, play guitar, and dance....few pop-stars can do all of those things together. If she ever did an acoustic show with just her on guitar...I would go see that (not for thousands).
She's resonated with teen girls and female 20-somethings, 30-somethings, and even 40-somethings in a way that no other pop artist or group has in the modern era. I just hope they don't listen to all of her personal opinions, but that aside, she's created quite the fan following.
Today's music is filled with so much parity...most pop and hip-hop artists all end up sounding similar. There isn't much depth to modern popular music...even by 'pop' standards. Taylor Swift has clearly carved out something unique...at least with her early music that put her on the map.
That being said, there's no way I'd pay that much for a concert...even if I were a diehard fan. I wouldn't even do that for Stapleton. But she clearly has a rabid fanbase willing to pay it...well, maybe some parents who are willing to pay it haha.
Can play guitar? Oooof. That's an achievement for a "singer songwriter"?
Can dance? Another groundbreaking achievement. Dancing is easy. Especially when it's choreographed for you and practiced.
Write her own songs? I struggle with this. She may write "some" lines but I'm sure it's sliced up and produced so much that it just sort of resembles the original version. It's marketing. Same as Toms and Warby Parker. And save me with the I know someone in the industry that vouches for her. I think that I've heard 5 separate times that they know someone close to the Swift's people and that it's true. That's statistically impossible.
She's some rich man's project that had a vision for her to resonate with so many young girls. All they have to do is doll her up, produce her music and market her. Now, it's come to fruition and people are spending ridiculous cash to watch her live. It's remarkable and unbelievable. Kudos to her and those involved.
This is a Mount Rushmore post in the category of "Trying way too hard to talk trash about something I know nothing about, to try to sound cool but in reality only sounding bitter and out of touch because of it."
I hate to break it to you, but yes, singing, dancing, and playing guitar does add up to "entertaining," and that is what her job is. And again I hate to break it to you, but yes, she writes her own songs. She's not some accidental star that some producers created and got lucky with. She's a powerhouse. You're outing yourself here as nothing more than an ignorant hater. As I said in my other post on this thread, music snobs suck.
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