In the film, Jim Caviezel portrays Tim Ballard, a real person who founded "Operation Underground Railroad" (OUR). OUR claims to combat sex-trafficking. However, investigations by Vice News discovered that OUR made misleading claims about the work it does.https://t.co/60dIDArM46

— Travis View (@travis_view) July 3, 2023

In another instance Tim Ballard and his team traveled to a Haitian village in search of a missing child. The child was not found, and it was later discovered that the “source” for the location of the child was a psychic medium from Utah. https://t.co/CnpC0pZtWr

— Travis View (@travis_view) July 3, 2023

Jim Caviezel himself has long been known to be unstable and difficult to work with. We discuss this in detail in a @QanonAnonymous episode we did over two years ago. We spoke to multiple sources who told us about Caviezel's odd behavior on sets. https://t.co/bE8MuM2l1q

— Travis View (@travis_view) July 3, 2023

@ 8minutes Peterson and @TimBallard both dance around the QAnon allegation and play dumb about what QAnon is but then Ballard proceeds to promote adrenochrome being a ‘real thing’ done as a form of ‘witch doctory’ https://t.co/EHBnnd8qMZ

— HowIsEmpireBabbyFormed (@FluorescentGrey) July 3, 2023

Yeah, so this whole thing sounds like a complete sh*t show. I assume those of you who shamed everyone who didn't immediately fall in line with this movie and its subjects' agenda will now be apologizing. Especially for calling me, in particular, "evil" for being the slightest bit dubious. Or will it be like it always is, you won't acknowledge your overreaction in any way, and then move onto the next subject you can be prematurely enraged about while making baseless, conspiratorial accusations?

lol zealous

What a word to use on a post about a movie

If true, this is some Looney-Tunes-level insanity…

PSA: Jim Caviezel’s upcoming movie “Sound of Freedom” is a QAnon/Pizzagate psyop to create “explosive, emotional, spiritual” reactions in viewers about a completely false reality where the @CIA is running “the largest pedophile ring in the world.”

This is American ISIS.👇 https://t.co/mAdpd90mjh pic.twitter.com/hATTHR60aR

— Jim Stewartson, Anti-disinfo activist 🇺🇸🇺🇦💙 (@jimstewartson) June 25, 2023

I seriously doubt I'll be watching the movie myself, but I'll of course wait and reserve judgment to see if this thing really does delve into or hint at a CIA conspiracy component, touches on adrenochroming and the like, or lays the blame on liberals or immigrants or whoever. This Tim Ballard dude is dubious enough, and the loudest voices shilling for this thing are suspect as hell (Mel Gibson, Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, etc), but still.

Either way, the overall concern people have with crap like this is that the filmmakers shouldn't have to rile people up with psyops to get them to care about human trafficking. Because anyone with a heart *already cares* about human trafficking. So then you start wonder if the filmmakers are using a subject like this for nefarious/political purposes, in order to cast one side as evil or "the other" or whatever, because that has certainly been the result so far.

I don't know, the whole thing just stinks to high heaven, and it sounds like people were right to be questioning it from the jump.

So you haven't even seen the film and you just filled a 2 page thread trying to discredit it? That's ****ed up.

I'd be really surprised if the movie itself portrays the CIA as the child trafficking organization or if it's fully a psyop… have to remember that Fox green lit this initially. If I had to speculate, they probably made the movie then started to learn more about the source material/characters it was based off of and decided to hold off on a wide release. Disney bought it and basically did the same. Meanwhile Jim C and associates have been making it even more difficult to want to give them a spotlight with their conspiracy garbage.

That sounds about right. Fox took on what they felt was a worthy pursuit, and maybe even made a decent movie, only to have it ruined by discovering that the guy at the heart of it was likely playing fast and loose with the facts. Add the QAnon garbage being spewed by multiple people involved, and it's completely understandable why it was shelved. If so, it really makes you question Angel Studios' intentions, if they then went forward with buying/promoting it, knowing the controversy surrounding this dude (while either ignoring or supporting the ancillary QAnon associations).

What pushback has this movie gotten?

I'll say this, conspiracy theories with this issue are absurd. I have a friend that runs an organization that is battling human trafficking. Online rumors/conspiracies went after him and his family to the point where he was encouraged to send his wife and kids away for a week to avoid possible harm being done to them. Basically he was compared to Epstein. All because some online bull*****

Every time someone defends Hollywood, I think of Harvey Weinstein . Another favorite is they made a movie and celebrate the child predator Milk. Hollywood is filled with dirty little secrets and we don't need to see how the sausage is made.

The more media and hollywood come out against this movie, the more it makes me want to see it......

There is pure evil in this world, and calling it out to raise awareness especially for the rights of the most innocent can't be a bad thing even if some of it is a stretch......

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Every time someone defends Hollywood, I think of Harvey Weinstein . Another favorite is they made a movie and celebrate the child predator Milk. Hollywood is filled with dirty little secrets and we don't need to see how the sausage is made.

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The irony is, mainstream Hollywood treats most of those films like "Well it's their truth…it's art…who are we to judge it" when certain details are left out to create a more rosy story…but when something comes along that doesn't conform to their world views, they dissect the hell out of it with a lot of vague conclusions. Because of that, it's really difficult to take some of these critiques seriously.

I'd rather see the film and get the full story first.

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lol zealous

What a word to use on a post about a movie

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Based on the responses here I think zealous is the perfect word.

Has anyone on here seen the movie yet? Seems like a lot of back & forth for a movie you haven't seen.

And how are some of you claiming a human trafficking movie is a movie for Christian and conservatives? I don't think some of you can read your own bias.

Shouldn't this be a movie for all? (Unless you support human trafficking)

Yeah the 3rd post on this thread really tried to draw a line in the sand. I hadn't heard of this movie. Sex trafficking is horrendous. That much is not in question, nor is it a political statement.

I think it's fair to discuss whether the film is accurate or the organizations behind the film are sketchy. It's not a "if you're not with us, you're against us" thing. You can be opposed to sex trafficking AND think certain actors or political voices are whackos, or be skeptical about the claims made in the film or in the press.

Skepticism =/= a defense of trafficking and slavery. It's an online discussion board about Entertainment - where else should we discuss these things?

Can't we just all agree that Mexicans are to blame?

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Can't we just all agree that Mexicans are to blame?

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What did I do?

Whos Juan said:

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Can't we just all agree that Mexicans are to blame?

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No, we can't.

cjg89 said:

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Every time someone defends Hollywood, I think of Harvey Weinstein . Another favorite is they made a movie and celebrate the child predator Milk. Hollywood is filled with dirty little secrets and we don't need to see how the sausage is made.

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Every time someone mentions church I think of the tens of thousand of priests who molested children. That must mean all Catholics are child molestors too.

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Has anyone on here seen the movie yet? Seems like a lot of back & forth for a movie you haven't seen.

And how are some of you claiming a human trafficking movie is a movie for Christian and conservatives? I don't think some of you can read your own bias.

Shouldn't this be a movie for all? (Unless you support human trafficking)

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The studio, the star, and the advertising have made that clear.

I watched the movie last night.

I thought it was well done. Don't remember anything related to Hollywood or left/right. It was a movie about sex trafficking and how evil it is.

A lot of the posts on here are way off about the movie.

Really well made movie. Not sure why people are calling it political. Nothing at all.

From the looks of this thread, it's triggered all the right people on all the right sides.

No one is "triggered" about the movie itself. 90% of this conversation has been about the people who made and endorse it.

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No one is "triggered" about the movie itself. 90% of this conversation has been about the people who made and endorse it.

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This ^

TCTTS said:

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No one is "triggered" about the movie itself. 90% of this conversation has been about the people who made and endorse it.

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Plenty people are triggered here. Like I said, on both sides.

I think that Hollywood is going to eventually wake up that there's a huge market for these counter-culture movies. I'm sure we will see more.

The Green Dragon said:

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TCTTS said:

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No one is "triggered" about the movie itself. 90% of this conversation has been about the people who made and endorse it.

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Plenty people are triggered here. Like I said, on both sides.

I think that Hollywood is going to eventually wake up that there's a huge market for these counter-culture movies. I'm sure we will see more.

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They're not triggered about the movie, they're triggered about the use of the word "zealous"

Ghost of Bisbee said:

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The Green Dragon said:

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TCTTS said:

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No one is "triggered" about the movie itself. 90% of this conversation has been about the people who made and endorse it.

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Plenty people are triggered here. Like I said, on both sides.

I think that Hollywood is going to eventually wake up that there's a huge market for these counter-culture movies. I'm sure we will see more.

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They're not triggered about the movie, they're triggered about the use of the word "zealous"

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Some are triggered and others appear to be invested.

The Green Dragon said:

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Ghost of Bisbee said:

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The Green Dragon said:

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TCTTS said:

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No one is "triggered" about the movie itself. 90% of this conversation has been about the people who made and endorse it.

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Plenty people are triggered here. Like I said, on both sides.

I think that Hollywood is going to eventually wake up that there's a huge market for these counter-culture movies. I'm sure we will see more.

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They're not triggered about the movie, they're triggered about the use of the word "zealous"

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Some are triggered and others appear to be invested.

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Sir I think you may not know what triggered means

Tell me

Saw the movie, it was really good and well done, there's no conspiracy nonsense that some of y'all are talking about, it's a very straightforward story.

Nonregdrummer09 said:

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Saw the movie, it was really good and well done, there's no conspiracy nonsense that some of y'all are talking about, it's a very straightforward story.

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Yep. But don't spoil their fun.

The Green Dragon said:

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TCTTS said:

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No one is "triggered" about the movie itself. 90% of this conversation has been about the people who made and endorse it.

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Plenty people are triggered here. Like I said, on both sides.

I think that Hollywood is going to eventually wake up that there's a huge market for these counter-culture movies. I'm sure we will see more.

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You guys HAVE to quit painting this subject as if it's something people disagree on, or like there are conflicting moral "sides" being taken here. No one here is saying that a light shouldn't be shown on this issue. No one here is contesting that movies that shine that light should be made. AGAIN, the only issues being expressed here are those with the filmmakers themselves, and how they muddy the waters with their QAnon rhetoric in their promotion of the movie.

Case in point, you're triggered. Your responses are very zealous