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*** SINNERS *** (dir. Ryan Coogler, Michael B. Jordan)

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Dude, just. chill out. I don't care who makes a movie. As long as it's good, I couldn't care less. What drives me nuts is constant harping and force feeding some particular subject. I am interested in this movie because it looks good. My interested is kept and increased because it's a Ryan Coogler movie. But that is because he is a known, proven commodity, not because he is black.
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Pretty cool. Got me thinking of the anime connections in Creed III. Coogler produced that. I wonder if he and MBJ have come to their love of animated movies together or separately or how that's played out.

https://www.ign.com/articles/michael-b-jordan-creed-3-fights-were-inspired-by-anime-including-a-dragon-ball-z-punch
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Job314 said:

Dude, just. chill out. I don't care who makes a movie. As long as it's good, I couldn't care less. What drives me nuts is constant harping and force feeding some particular subject. I am interested in this movie because it looks good. My interested is kept and increased because it's a Ryan Coogler movie. But that is because he is a known, proven commodity, not because he is black.
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Just got out of a showing. Vampire/horror aren't necessarily my type of movies. The music was incredible. The one shot sequence was very well done. It's worth going to see that sequence by itself.
I thought Jack O'Connell had the best performance out of everyone. It had a great last hour, but the movie felt a little empty for me. Some of the dialogue got caught up in the sound mix like tenet. Overall a solid movie
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Cool flick! Really enjoyed the music. Lots of folks in my IMAX showing in Sugar Land AMC First Colony 7:15

Halee Steinfeld - lawd have mercy
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Whata ****ing incredible film. Everyone was acting out of their minds. Michael B Jordan running dual roles. All the supporting cast. Hailee Steinfeld talking all dirty like and asking
MBJ to steal her ***** in a southern accent

The two big song and dance scenes were so incredibly portrayed.
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I definitely wouldn't put this in conversation for "best film of the decade" so far, re: the Rotten Tomatoes scores tweet I posted above. The plot takes a while to lock in, the third act is over a little too quickly, and I wish a couple things here and there would have been explained/underlined a little better.

That said…

You've never seen anything remotely like this, the music is incredible (especially THAT oner scene), the cinematography is stunning, and our audience broke out into applause FOUR TIMES (twice during the movie itself, once at the end, and then a final time after the post-credit scene, which is more crucial than any Marvel post-credit scene, btw). Everyone in attendance seemed to love it, and man is it a fun watch with a big, packed, passionate crowd.

Not to mention, as Spilner already said, Miles Caton is a star in the making... while Delroy Lindo steals the show, and Hailee Steinfeld… my god. As good as she's been at times, she's going to blow up after this.

Overall, it's been a while since I've seen a big, event movie, and tonight checked every box I could possibly want in that regard. What a great pre-kick-off to the summer too. Nearly every big trailer for every big summer movie played beforehand, almost every one was met with cheers, and it just felt so damn good to be back.

I cannot wait for the next three months.
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TCTTS said:

I definitely wouldn't put this in conversation for "best film of the decade" so far, re: the Rotten Tomatoes scores tweet I posted above. The plot takes a while to lock in, the third act is over a little too quickly, and I wish a couple things here and there would have been explained/underlined a little better.

That said…

You've never seen anything remotely like this, the music is incredible (especially THAT oner scene), the cinematography is stunning, and our audience broke out into applause FOUR TIMES (twice during the movie itself, once at the end, and then a final time after the post-credit scene, which is more crucial than any Marvel post-credit scene, btw). Everyone in attendance seemed to love it, and man is it a fun watch with a big, packed, passionate crowd.

Not to mention, as Spilner already said, Miles Caton is a star in the making... while Delroy Lindo steals the show, and Hailee Steinfeld… my god. As good as she's been at times, she's going to blow up after this.

Overall, it's been a while since I've seen a big, event movie, and tonight checked every box I could possibly want in that regard. What a great pre-kick-off to the summer too. Nearly every big trailer for every big summer movie played beforehand, almost every one was met with cheers, and it just felt so damn good to be back.

I cannot wait for the next three months.


I feel like it is the first role that has let her be a woman and not some spunky kid. I probably haven't seen everything g she is in but I can't think of another movie where she is allowed to act like THAT.

I do think for the black community this is going to become a modern cultural touchstone like Black Panther and Get Out
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Agreed. And yeah, come to think of it, I've seen just about everything she's done as well and I don't think I've ever once seen her play an actual adult. But after this, she'd be at the top of my list for her age range (late 20s/early 30s) to lead a drama, comedy, thriller... it doesn't matter. She was phenomenal.
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This is insane. I would have bet that Caton had been playing/singing for years, and that's why they cast him...

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I do think for the black community this is going to become a modern cultural touchstone


Really happy to see you write this, almost as happy as I am to see the film's rapacious greeting, and I agree fully.

BIPOC Stories, told by Black filmmakers, cast, and crew, must be centered in Hollywood, and beyond, and paramount as the industry re-calibrates post-strike, and into the "age of streaming."

We need big, bold, powerful, deeply rooted and authentic filmmaking - for the big screen, for IMAX - fully funded and supported all the way.

Touchstone is the word.

It is still opening weekend, and I implore posters and lurkers alike to support this film and its vision.

Edit:
See it in IMAX
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Just saw.

LOVED it.

Highly recommend to anyone interested to go watch

Note: DON'T forget there are TWO end credit scenes.
- One about a minute after the movie
- Another at the true end of credits
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There's a second one? What was it?
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Just got out. Pretty good. Coogler is a beast. Apparently there are post-credit scenes? Hope they were good but ya boy don't got time for that.
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The first one starts maybe 30 seconds after the movie ends, if that. In fact, there's video playing while the main credits roll, and that video leads directly to the first "end credit" scene, which is incredibly crucial to the movie itself. To the point where it's basically the *actual* ending of the movie.

That said, we didn't stay for the second end credit scene and I still have no idea what it is.
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TCTTS said:

The first one starts maybe 30 seconds after the movie ends, if that. In fact, there's video playing while the main credits roll, and that video leads directly to the first "end credit" scene, which is incredibly crucial to the movie itself. To the point where it's basically the *actual* ending of the movie.

That said, we didn't stay for the second end credit scene and I still have no idea what it is.


The second is miles Caton performing a blues version of this little light of mine
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Good to know, thanks.
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I don't understand why the mid credits scene wasn't just the end of the movie. It's basically incomplete without that scene.
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Okay is this just me? Stack felt like he was smaller than Smoke. I wasn't sure if it was the clothing or what or just the gravitas that MBJ added to Smoke but he felt "larger" than his brother
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48 hours later, I can't stop thinking about this movie, and it's only gotten better in my eyes. I might even see it again this week if I get the chance.
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Quite an endorsement. Im going to make an effort to go out and see this one, but my wife hates horror movies with a passion. Might have to recruit my younger brother and his wife.
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I pulled an audible on this one today, which I honestly don't think I've done in 15 years. Was at a late lunch wrapping up at exactly 4pm and while I was waiting on the check was like "the best movie theatre in town is like 300 feet away, let's see what they've got open with Sinisters." They had a 4:20 showing on 4/20 (I do not partake in that) but then it was "waiter we must have check right now" to make this work. Cannot tell you the last time I popped into a theater with 20 mins notice, or anything less than 24 hours.

Movie was great.

Most fun I've had in anything in this genre since the surprise that was Get Out.

But, the whole time I just couldn't get past "this cost $90M?!?!" (And that's on me for knowing that going in.). But the whole time I'm like OK, Coogler must have got $25M, Jordan got $25M, and then they found a way to put another $40M onscreen, that does not make sense to me. And my friggin neighbor Mike DeLuca is the one that wrote the check.

It was a good movie, but not at that price tag. Some people got some money bags. Michael B and Coogler will get some awards attention (but not wins). I need to see it again to make sense of it.

Worth the view for sure if you're 300 feet away from a showing already. Slightly overhyped- I'd say so. (But that's what happens with overhype).
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Between the movie and this video, I have now developed a crush on Hailee Steinfeld.

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Damn, Redstone is sitting back in his computer chair chuckling to himself that he trolled you and the 12 others who starred your post.
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Please listen to Franklin Leonard today on Matt Belloni's The Town podcast.

As head of The BlackList, he understands how Hollywood has failed BIPOC filmmakers, especially can't miss superstars such as Coogler.

Leonard has the numbers, especially regarding Hollywood studios refusing to spend on marketing in ways equitable to white directors.

And it simply isn't true, as Leonard also details, that Black artists don't generate interest outside of the US. This is a major failure that must be corrected.

We can do better. I applaud all those who supported the film this week, and ask that you return to the theaters multiple times, as Bill Simmons said he was doing today on his podcast. Coogler and Jordan deserve our support, as do those Black artists coming soon, following their lead.
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Coogler and Jordan caught HUGE BAGS before doing this.

Don't act like that didn't happen.
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There have been other deals structured this way - but did they have the total accumulative box office of Coogler?

And why did Tarantino get a rights deal for a comparatively underperforming film, newsworthy now, as Leonard details, because of an out of context New York Times "article?" Why is this art so heavily questioned…..for a Black artist making commentary about the appropriation of Black culture?

Like Leonard, I'll leave the speculation of motives to others, but I think we all have a decent idea.

Edit: I'm not making any dispersions. I just want us to be better.
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'm not making any dispersions. I just want us to be better.
You're trolling, as you always are. But I'll play. How do you want "us" to do better? Bc "we"are apparently throwing unnecessary bags at people, and this movie shouldn't have cost $90M+.

 
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