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asmith96 said:

You were not "clearly joking", you were condescending...at best. In my opinion.

Do you ever ask yourself why YOU are always involved in these type of conversations with all different kinds of folks?

Except it's always the same bunch.

Or, it's people such as yourself, who are clearly looking to be offended, seeing as, again, I was never talking to you in the first place.

That, and this is a heavily conservative site populated by some of the most opinionated conservatives on the internet. It is what it is in that regard, but many of them hate Hollywood and express their hatred of Hollywood here often.

I, on the other hand, work in Hollywood and am not traditionally conservative.

Thus, naturally, friction is going to arise, and often.

It's not rocket science.

I mean, this particular conversation wouldn't have even taken place if not for the poster who called the movie "woke" because females and black people are depicted in roles of leadership. So I responded in kind, with an equally ridiculous statement of my own, and now here we are.

Sure, one lesson could be that I shouldn't respond/take the bait. And that very well may be (even though I do ignore the vast majority of those comments).

But I find it curious how the lesson is NEVER that those people shouldn't post such ridiculous nonsense in the first place.
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I finally got a chance to see it, and at the risk of derailing a classic Entertainment board argument, I thought I'd share my opinion. I thought it might have my least favorite MI movie. It's been a while since I've seen #2, so maybe that's worse and I just don't remember. I still enjoyed the movie, though. I like every MI movie, but I think they've fallen from their peak. This one seemed to put no effort into plot. It was just how can I get to the next action scene. Also, I think they could have shaved at least an hour from the movie. They didn't need to try and bring in random stuff from previous movies like the Rabbit's foot or the knife from #1. That said, I think the biplane stunt might be the single greatest stunt sequence ever filmed. That was amazing, and easily the highlight of the movie.
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Saw this last evening and it was a mixed bag. The first half of the movie was pretty lame, however the last half was pretty dang good. I liked they had all the earthly elements covered in the action/stunt scenes.
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AustinAg2K said:

I finally got a chance to see it, and at the risk of derailing a classic Entertainment board argument, I thought I'd share my opinion. I thought it might have my least favorite MI movie. It's been a while since I've seen #2, so maybe that's worse and I just don't remember. I still enjoyed the movie, though. I like every MI movie, but I think they've fallen from their peak. This one seemed to put no effort into plot. It was just how can I get to the next action scene. Also, I think they could have shaved at least an hour from the movie. They didn't need to try and bring in random stuff from previous movies like the Rabbit's foot or the knife from #1. That said, I think the biplane stunt might be the single greatest stunt sequence ever filmed. That was amazing, and easily the highlight of the movie.
#2 is so bad. John Woo just did so many things for the sake of doing them. I rewatched all of them last week and I pulled an eye muscle from rolling my eyes during the action sequences. I hadn't seen #2 in almost 25 years and it was not long enough.
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1 and 2 were forgettable. Part 3 was the first I enjoyed but still inferior to every MI movie that came after.
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Mission Impossible 1 was directly based on the tv series and was more of a team espionage/techno thriller. This was before MI had evolved into an action adventure franchise, but I believe it was excellent in its own right. The scene where Hunt is suspended in the safe room is one of the all time greats in the series.
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My problem with the MI movies is that I have a hard time remembering which films specific sequences happen in. This is largely because I haven't rewatched them a bunch of times as I have other franchises. The closest in tone to MI would be 007. With that series, which I have watched repeatedly over the years, I can not only pinpoint sequences to the films that they happened in, but in some cases I can quote certain dialogue beyond the "shaken, not stirred" line. With MI, I recall a bunch of great action scenes - hanging from the skyscraper in the Middle East, the big helicopter chase between TC and HC as just two that come to mind - but if you'd told me that TC got married in this series, I would have said "huh". Whereas I know that 007 got married in the 1969 movie, On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

These movies are on the whole good movies. There's a couple of really great ones in there, and there's one stinking turd of a movie as well, which can also describe the 007 movies.
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AustinAg2K said:

I finally got a chance to see it, and at the risk of derailing a classic Entertainment board argument, I thought I'd share my opinion. I thought it might have my least favorite MI movie. It's been a while since I've seen #2, so maybe that's worse and I just don't remember. I still enjoyed the movie, though. I like every MI movie, but I think they've fallen from their peak. This one seemed to put no effort into plot. It was just how can I get to the next action scene. Also, I think they could have shaved at least an hour from the movie. They didn't need to try and bring in random stuff from previous movies like the Rabbit's foot or the knife from #1. That said, I think the biplane stunt might be the single greatest stunt sequence ever filmed. That was amazing, and easily the highlight of the movie.

DrunkCritic described it as "create one McGuffin to then deal with the next McGuffin which leads to the third mcguffin which has to be dealt with"

seems most people agree on this point that the plot is just creating obstacles to then move on to the next obstacle which doesn't make logical sense.

anyhoo, I think I will wait a bit to see this
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TCTTS said:

This board is full of people who endlessly insult me and others anytime we dare defend "Hollywood" or don't fall in line with traditionally conservative views.

Funny how you never call them out.

Yet you can't help but get your panties in a wad when I clearly, jokingly rib some folks who didn't have fun with this movie.


You think it's my job to defend you while you continuously insult me? And you can call it "ribbing" all you want but that is not the case. You get angry and defensive and start insulting the person instead of attacking the opinion within the context of the film.
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I wanted to like this more than I did. It was just kind of a slog. I played catchup the past few days (hadn't seen 6 or 7) so maybe I was just on overload.

The script was just a mess. I actually liked the callbacks and attempt to tie the series together more than most. But the rest was just nonsensical.

You're here for the big action set pieces, and of course they were incredible. That sub scene though- I sat there the whole time thinking how miserable that had to be to shoot. Like maybe the most miserable scene ever shot? Underwater in a suit all day for what- weeks?

Anyway, it was time for this series to come to an end. I will however miss Tom Cruise sprinting for a literal marathon every movie.
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Well that was only the one actor plus how ever many crew had to be in that submerged set.

Take a look at 1989's The Abyss for what was in fact a terrible production to be involved in, so much so that most of that cast stated they would never again work with James Cameron.
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Saw this last night. I'd put this at the bottom of the series right above M:I-2.

I am a fan of the series, but after seeing reactions on here and talking with friends who saw it I lowered my expectations, so I wasn't disappointed when I saw it, but I still didn't like it very much.

Why?

This is maybe the most self indulgent movie I've seen. It felt like it belonged in the Fast and Furious franchise. I've never seen so many flashbacks in a movie before. The overly long runtime could have lost an hour if they just cut those out!

Also, besides the biplanes, this entire movie was in the dark, underground or under water. It was so claustrophobic and contained and had none of the fun out and about sequences the franchise has peppered in to great effect over the series, IMO.

I do think the sub sequence and the biplanes are worth the price of admission. They were incredible. Cruise and McQuarrie are masters at these action scenes by now, but the movie they built around these this time just didn't work for me.
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Seeing it tonight. I have tempered my expectations and am looking forward to the action scenes.
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veryfuller said:

Saw this last night. I'd put this at the bottom of the series right above M:I-2.

I am a fan of the series, but after seeing reactions on here and talking with friends who saw it I lowered my expectations, so I wasn't disappointed when I saw it, but I still didn't like it very much.

Why?

This is maybe the most self indulgent movie I've seen. It felt like it belonged in the Fast and Furious franchise. I've never seen so many flashbacks in a movie before. The overly long runtime could have lost an hour if they just cut those out!

Also, besides the biplanes, this entire movie was in the dark, underground or under water. It was so claustrophobic and contained and had none of the fun out and about sequences the franchise has peppered in to great effect over the series, IMO.

I do think the sub sequence and the biplanes are worth the price of admission. They were incredible. Cruise and McQuarrie are masters at these action scenes by now, but the movie they built around these this time just didn't work for me.
This is one of my biggest gripes about the movie. It wasnt as fun, light hearted, and humorous as the previous movies.
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Part I Dead Reckoning was a fantastic movie with a lot of great drama, pathos and action scenes

the one before it with the nuclear bomb in Soviet Union and fighting superman in a chopper was excellent as well

the others were average.
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Cruise in Paris on the motorcycle

and then in real life jumping onto a building and breaking his ankle then hobbling off is GOAT
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I mean, surely nothing they do is going to top how amazing Fallout was, but they don't have to top it. Even something as "simple" as the airport scene from DR Part 1 has an electricity that this movie was severely lacking, IMO.

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Agreed. The half-assed infiltration that immediately goes south to reintroduce Grace, then the immediate capture, then the off-screen violence - it all felt like they were going through the motions to get to the good stuff. But by good stuff I mean a lot more exposition before we get to the sub/cabin fight (which was good!) and underwater adventure.
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Saw it last night and enjoyed it. It definitely wasn't the best and wasn't the worst. Aside from the big set pieces of the submarine and plane chase, it felt a little light on action. Those scenes were worth the price of the ticket, though. They stressed my wife out.

I agree with others about the constant flashbacks in the first part of the movie. It almost felt like a YouTube tribute video. There was one point where they did a flashback to something that was said like 2 minutes earlier between Luther and the bad guy.

All in all, I would say the movie was worth the price of admission.
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Some great behind-the-scenes pics from all eight movie in this thread...

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I love when people write 8 words about the movie itself then post 6 other paragraphs *****ing about someone else on a board they rarely post on. Or post about how "woke" a movie was on, again, a forum they rarely post on.

That said, went last night and I had a blast with this movie. I didn't know what to expect with somewhat mixed reviews but I really enjoyed it, I thought the pacing was pretty good considering the length and I loved all the callbacks. And a couple side characters really steal the show.

Yes, it was over the top and unrealistic in spots because welcome to the MI franchise, but it was a heck of a lot of fun.
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LMCane said:


seems most people agree on this point that the plot is just creating obstacles to then move on to the next obstacle which doesn't make logical sense.

It was entertaining but 100% agree with this. I kept thinking, "Oh, ok, that's what they have to do save themselves and the planet." And then 13 more things popped up and now I couldn't tell you the sequence if my own life depended on it.
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I agree. I sat through it twice and was never bored. The flashbacks made me want to watch all of them again.
 
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