CharleyKerfeld said:

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TyHolden said:

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Who slept with Vader to reproduce? He's kind of an ugly dude.

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Seriously?

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Yeah I don't believe anything after RTOJ…

CharleyKerfeld said:

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What's funny is that that the Yankees are the big villlains, regardless. In real life, they were in the midst of their longest streaks without a WS title (19 years) and playoff appearance (14 years) when the movie came out. They are just easy to hate.

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Huh? The Yankees won the World Series back to back in 77 & 78. Reggie Jackson ring a bell?

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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TyHolden said:

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Who slept with Vader to reproduce? He's kind of an ugly dude.

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Seriously?

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Yeah I don't believe anything after RTOJ…

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Return the Of Jedi?

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im dyslexic

Hank the Grifter said:

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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What's funny is that that the Yankees are the big villlains, regardless. In real life, they were in the midst of their longest streaks without a WS title (19 years) and playoff appearance (14 years) when the movie came out. They are just easy to hate.

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Huh? The Yankees won the World Series back to back in 77 & 78. Reggie Jackson ring a bell?

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They didn't win a title from 78 until 96. 18 years, my apologies. They missed the playoffs from 1981 to 1995.

The Yanks were also in the World Series in 1981.

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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What's funny is that that the Yankees are the big villlains, regardless. In real life, they were in the midst of their longest streaks without a WS title (19 years) and playoff appearance (14 years) when the movie came out. They are just easy to hate.

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Huh? The Yankees won the World Series back to back in 77 & 78. Reggie Jackson ring a bell?

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They didn't win a title from 78 until 96. 18 years, my apologies. They missed the playoffs from 1981 to 1995.

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The movie was made in 1989. I understand the point you're trying to make but your facts are just wrong.

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I've said this one before…

The Rock, when Connery and Cage are breaking back into the prison, Sean rolls through a complicated series of fire and man crushing gear type things, emerges from the other side and opens the door for Cage. Why didn't Connery just go out the door when was breaking out of the prison?

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we watched this last night for our 13yr old's first viewing - thought the same thing! seen the movie 100 times and it never occurred to me until yesterday.

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Obviously it was locked back then, but now, it's open.

This would be a perfect producer guy/writer guy bit. "Why?" "Because"

Because someone mentioned the Ewoks, the fight in the forest on Endor has always driven me nuts. The Ewoks couldn't have known that Luke and his band of rebels were going to show up, so how did the Ewoks already have tons of massive log traps already set up? And how did they set those traps up at all? There is a good myth busters episode where they try to replicate the scene and it takes some really heavy equipment to lift and position those huge trees.

I guess they are like Squints on Sandlot and had been planning it for years?


And re: everyone forgetting about the Jedi. If that is true then it further strengthens the alternative viewing of the movie that sees the Jedi as the actual villains of the series. They are this secretive cult that goes around using magic and laser swords to enforce the rules of the republic. We're never really explained in full what the major grievance was with the trade federation, but in any case the Jedi totally annihilate the federation and murder 1000s of people. Then the Jedi are put in charge of a massive clone army and all given the rank of general as they work their way through the galaxy crushing any resistance to republic rule. Yeah, maybe I would try to wipe them from my memory.

Imagine being George Lucas and being such an idiot that you could make movies so bad that your heroes are the villains. And finally, Jar Jar is a sith lord.

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We're never really explained in full what the major grievance was with the trade federation

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Did you not see Phantom Menace?

CharleyKerfeld said:

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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What's funny is that that the Yankees are the big villlains, regardless. In real life, they were in the midst of their longest streaks without a WS title (19 years) and playoff appearance (14 years) when the movie came out. They are just easy to hate.

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Huh? The Yankees won the World Series back to back in 77 & 78. Reggie Jackson ring a bell?

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They didn't win a title from 78 until 96. 18 years, my apologies. They missed the playoffs from 1981 to 1995.

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The movie was made in 1989. I understand the point you're trying to make but your facts are just wrong.

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"in the midst" means in the middle of. the movie was made in 1989. The Yankees won the World Series in 1978 but not again until 1996. That's 18 years. They were in the playoffs in 1981, but not again until 1995. The point is they were not a team to be feared in 1989. They were the villains in the movie because everyone hates the Yankees. My facts aren't wrong at all.

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I'm well aware of what you wrote and again, the point you were trying to make. And while I understand your point, you'll forgive me if I think you're backtracking a bit. Your wording clearly implied that the yanks had been in a nearly 20 year drought at the time of the movie and that's just not the case.
Nobody had a crystal ball to know how long the Yanks were gonna be down so this "in the midst" notion is a bit spurious.
When filming ended, it had been 10 years since the Yanks were back to back champs.

And yes I realize I'm the old man yelling at clouds here and that this is squarely in the "internet is serious business" arena.

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I'll go one further with Major League. The final play call is a stolen base with Jake Taylor's bunt. The Ruthian called shot is nice theatre. The Duke buzzes the tower in retaliation.

The problem is that Willie Mays Hays would have been stealing on the pitch that buzzes the tower (called steal), not the following pitch when Taylor actually lays the bunt down.

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Maybe Willie missed the sign on the pitch that buzzed Jake. Hard to believe with how excessive the signs were, but it's Willie, so who knows?

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Safety squeeze, not a suicide squeeze.

On the second pitch after the signs where Taylor actually bunts, Hays clearly breaks on the pitch, not the bunt, so the squeeze is on. He just magically knows to wait a pitch to execute the play call.

It's not a squeeze b/c he was stealing 3rd base, not home.

but yeah, assuming that was the plan, he should have been running on the brush back.

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Why do the giant eagles keep showing up to save hobbits, wizards, and dwarfs only at the most perilous moments? Could they not fly them all the way to the Lonely Mountain or Mount Doom to begin with? Feels like they're really under utilizing them for travel and could have saved a lot of time

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Because the eagles were highly intelligent beings with free will. They're smarter than men and couldn't just be summoned. Plus like men, the Eagles would've been corrupted and tempted by the Ring. They understood that taking on the Ring would've been a death sentence, plus with the Nazgul, Sauron would've known they were coming and would've just put all of his defenses at Mount Doom

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I know it's been mentioned on here in other threads, but that whole 'A Quiet Place" why not just go live near the waterfall question.

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Not sure that's a plot hole. Why give up a farm with electricity (ability to provide and cook food), a fairly secure basement, ability to distract and/or confuse the aliens, etc in order to either live rustic as **** with kids, no electricity, no reliable food source or attempt to acquire/transport materials to rebuild what they already have as quietly as possible?

I get your point, but if I had to choose plotting new fields for crops and running a power line to my new location vs constant avoidance of burrowing monsters that can swallow me whole - I'm going with the former.

That's fine, not sure that's a plot hole though. It's a different opinion on the priority of survival needs. A consistent source of food is pretty typically priority #1. I do think you're oversimplifying the act of creating a shelter near the waterfall a bit but that's not even the biggest issue.

The two things that to me are hard to explain in the movie are
1) how do you keep a newborn quiet?
2) How did the creatures survive the explosion of their own planet, riding the remains through the vacuum of space getting bombarded with radiation until their ride impacted Earth? I get their exoskeleton or whatever is basically impenetrable but their insides are still soft enough that a shotgun to their exposed parts kills them. They should have been dead 10 times over before getting to Earth.

Haven't read all pages, but The Walking Dead drove me nuts.

• How do skeletonized remains "pass" on the virus to quickly infect people with a bite? Yet people get covered with splatter all the time? The zombies don't have fangs.
• Bones don't get mushy over time. How are they so easily puncturing heads with pipes, sticks, etc.
• Outside of big hoards, why are the characters not just walking around and through them? They just shuffle.
• As they decompose, how can they see and hear? Just the extended viability of decomposing people years later is disgruntling.

Then you have endless ammo, gas that never goes bad. Bullets sparking off metal. All that nonsense.

Everyone is infected in the walking dead. When they die they turn, absent major brain trauma.

Varsity Blues - Billy Bob passes out before the snap. Should have been a false start and no injured Lance Harbor.

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In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.

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Yes but this thread is about plot holes and while that clearly is a blunder the plot is Itchy and Scratchy fight and kill each other so that is simply incidental to the plot.

One of the best scenes in Bull Durham was also a plot mistake. Nuke strikes out an opponent and Crash approaches the mound and asks for the ball from the throw-around. He tells Nuke to hit the mascot. Nuke objects because he's cruisin'. Crash says to trust him.

Nuke hits the mascot. Ball 1.
Crash laughs and tells the batter not to dig in, he doesn't know where it is going. Nuke throws low and away and batter misses because he's bailing. Strike 1. Crash throws to first for a throw-around after a strikeout.

Bad continuity from another great scene:
Old School party scene. Frank the Tank declines chugging the beer because he has plans for a "pretty nice Saturday". Mitch hooks up with high school chick. Next morning, "I've got to get to class".

Mitch goes to work in full suit like a weekday. High school daughter of boss comes in from class. It's Saturday.


Empire -- The whole escape from Hoth scene. Transports "got away" because they were accompanied by a couple of shots from the ion cannon, making the starships evade. Ok. Once the transports passed, why didn't a fleet of tie fighters chase them down? Or how about a deck gun from the starship?

And how come no one shot down, followed or chased Luke when he took off and went to Degobah?

They were all over the Falcon, and Luke hauled ass in a different direction. The Empire couldn't cover all Hoth orbital points, apparently. I am also surmising that Vader thought Luke was on the Falcon, so that was the priority.

I'm likely the only one on this board, or anywhere, with this opinion. I've always been bothered with the fundamental plot of Saving Private Ryan. Great movie, acting, and gripping scenes. Every high schooler should be required to watch the invasion scene at the beginning.

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I'm likely the only one on this board, or anywhere, with this opinion. I've always been bothered with the fundamental plot of Saving Private Ryan. Great movie, acting, and gripping scenes. Every high schooler should be required to watch the invasion scene at the beginning.

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I'm guessing the fundamental plot is risking this entire squad simply to save the one man? If so, that was acknowledged through dialogue in the movie. Doesn't change anything plot-wise, but they at least acknowledged how awful the idea was.

That never bothered me. Capital ships have been known to come close or even run into each other in war, which is how I took that scene. Plus it was just such a great looking shot.