Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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BQ78 said:

I've forgotten, why didn't Comey and the deep state just ignore Hillary's server problem. I don't recall that much pressure on the situation. In hindsight, I think blowing it off like they do most of the time now, would have been a better approach. What they actually did, did not help her and it is patently obvious that mission #1for the deep state was to hurt Trump and by doing that, help her.

Her server issue became known in early 2015, before the primaries and before Trump even announced, IIRC. So the FBI was not so inclined to ignore it since she was not the nominee, yet nor was Trump on the scene. She had left the State Department in 2013, I believe.

There were some inklings about this other server during the Benghazi hearings but nothing was fleshed out. Remember when Jason Chaffetz's jaw dropped when Comey said the FBI didn't even review her sworn testimony before his committee because they had not made a direct referral.

But when the emails became public on wikileaks, there was no tamping that down.
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aggiehawg said:

Garrelli 5000 said:

Not highlighted that jumps out to me is the note that HRC's campaign received regular updates from AG Lynch re: the FBI's plans and intentions.

The Bill and Loretta Tango on the Tarmac was a debrief for Bill. That meeting was in late June 2016.

The Comey presser exonerating Hillary was July 5, 2016. Bill and Hill were given the heads up what Comey was about to do.

Come on, now. Everyone knows they talked about their grandchildren. There wasn't even a smidgen of corruption in the Obama administration.
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The Crowdstrike (Ukraine, via Alperovich, something of a Russian dissident) tie-in here (as well as the Atlantic Council, a primary champion of foreign wars being funded/run by the US) is also of interest as it threads into the second (Vindman-Ciaramella) impeachment about the call with Zelensky, as well.

Still at it today, fwiw;

Oh, look, the guy who couldn't recall if he concocted this scheme is now…a Soros VP. Weird, right?
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Ukraine was the slush fund for excessive money laundering for years and years. Yanukovych began to balk at the terms and conditions the IMF was seeking to impose upon him, so he had to go, courtesy of our State Department and a color revolution.

Biden, as VP was up to his eyeballs in the money laundering and it was not restricted to Hunter. He also provided a 20 million federal loan to his good buddy and lifelong donor to build luxury car dealerships in Ukraine.
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True. But Ukraine in their defense (gasp) was just a tool (since at least 2014). Crowdstrike was a democrat party projection racket, full stop.

Similarly, Russia wasn't selected as a foe for any kind of personal/ethnic hatred (certainly HRC had no animosity there, she and Bill were happy to take Russian money, as was Biden), but because it was a convenient foil.
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Similarly, Russia wasn't selected as a foe for any kind of personal/ethnic hatred (certainly HRC had no animosity there, she and Bill were happy to take Russian money, as was Biden), but because it was a convenient foil.

Putin has never cared what people say about him as long as the gravy train continued and they did what he wanted them to do. It was Hillary with famous faux pas of the Reset button. A new agreement.
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Leavitt about to give her daily briefing and the latest declassed docs appear to be on the agenda per Lil Doocy.
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Some might find this amusing...

Shot:


Chaser:
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Take out the space... curse words.

https://x.com/ MikeBenzCyber/status/1950992648929714376
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will25u said:




Sullivan is one of those people you can tell is lying because his lips are moving.
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will25u said:




Sullivan is a high value target for scapegoat. He's up to his eyeballs and everything.
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This smells like a giant conspiracy...
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But the DNC -- which we have known for a long time -- and Obama were determined in the early weeks/months of 2016 to not allow Clinton's campaign to be derailed by the controversy over her emails and home server.

As I stated earlier, the email stuff came to light in 2015 when the FBI had no reason to just bury it. Further, if memory serves it was August or September of 2015 when the server, in FBI custody at the time, went missing from evidence room for several days.
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Everyone judges others.

I try not to, but when it comes to J Sullivan, his actions in the last four years are exactly what he looks like. If I'd never heard of, or seen the man, I'd be hesitant.

Not that I've been exposed to him, but he's an incredible wanker.
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For us "ole" Ags who's time is growing short...IS ANYONE going to be prosecuted ANY TIME soon?????

TIA!
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whatthehey78 said:

For us "ole" Ags who's time is growing short...IS ANYONE going to be prosecuted ANY TIME soon?????

TIA!


Probably not.
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Keep the faith.

If you don't have any, get some.

IMO, and I know this part is incorrect, but the ONLY way they'll get the people we want is by conspiracy, which appears to still be going on, which is the way they can be indicted. However, this HAS to be fully and thoroughly investigated. Yes, we're PRETTY sure we know what happened, who did it, when, and how, but we need more than that.

Nothing about this is going to be easy. To me, the most important part is going to be where the venue is. If it's in DC, those judges AND the juries wouldn't have convicted Lee Harvey Oswald knowing he was a Democrat.

Plus, the DOJ doesn't start a Task Force and have it ready to indict people in 3-4 months. I suspect they may have some ready to go by October, but we'll get there. Candidly, it's GOT to be a slam dunk since January of '26 starts the election season and it can be good PR for the good guys, I'm sorry to say, but it hopefully will.
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fasthorse05 said:

Keep the faith.

If you don't have any, get some.

IMO, and I know this part is incorrect, but the ONLY way they'll get the people we want is by conspiracy, which appears to still be going on, which is the way they can be indicted. However, this HAS to be fully and thoroughly investigated. Yes, we're PRETTY sure we know what happened, who did it, when, and how, but we need more than that.

Nothing about this is going to be easy. To me, the most important part is going to be where the venue is. If it's in DC, those judges AND the juries wouldn't have convicted Lee Harvey Oswald knowing he was a Democrat.

Plus, the DOJ doesn't start a Task Force and have it ready to indict people in 3-4 months. I suspect they may have some ready to go by October, but we'll get there. Candidly, it's GOT to be a slam dunk since January of '26 starts the election season and it can be good PR for the good guys, I'm sorry to say, but it hopefully will.


You might also remember that Team Mueller secretly tolled the SOLs for Manafort. Manafort's attorneys didn't even know about that until they moved to dismiss a large part of the indictments against him for being time barred. Then they were told about the tolling. Maybe DOJ is doing the same very quietly?
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Hoping and a praying for justice, Lord. AMEN!

ETA - regardless of political affiliation. "Book em, Dano"...I mean Donald.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte

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You'll have to educate me on "tolls". If I've heard of it, I didn't learn it.

Secondly, Lot's of print in the last 3-4 days about the number of folks still in all of the intel agencies still working for the bad buys.

Pretty decent reading. I knew that was going to be the case, as it was impossible to scrape the cancer in 6 months to a year.

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https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/are-senior-cia-personnel-still-taking

And BTW, I found this earlier. I haven't read anything by him in a long time. Decent read.


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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1950922948736418289.html


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You'll have to educate me on "tolls". If I've heard of it, I didn't learn it.

It is not unheard of for the SOL not to run until something else happens to trigger them. In civil law for instance, fraud SOL don't run until the fraud is or could have been discovered by a reasonable person.

Now when discussing conspiracy charges, including RICO, the SOL keeps running as long as the conspiracy is in existence. So, if Brennan and Clapper had cut off all communication and said nothing since 2016, they would no longer have been active since that time.

But for other potential crimes, a judge can toll the SOL from expiring in an emergency. As happened with Manafort. The SOL was about to expire so Team Mueller went to federal judge to have it tolled.
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Gracias!

Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
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aggiehawg said:

Now when discussing conspiracy charges, including RICO, the SOL keeps running as long as the conspiracy is in existence. So, if Brennan and Clapper had cut off all communication and said nothing since 2016, they would no longer have been active since that time.

Since you mentioned the R-word, what are your thoughts on qualfiying as as RICO conspiracy?
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benchmark said:

aggiehawg said:

Now when discussing conspiracy charges, including RICO, the SOL keeps running as long as the conspiracy is in existence. So, if Brennan and Clapper had cut off all communication and said nothing since 2016, they would no longer have been active since that time.

Since you mentioned the R-word, what are your thoughts on qualfiying as as RICO conspiracy?


I personally think RICO would be an overcharge like they did with Diddy and then be a bunch of Cliensmith style deals come out of it and nothing really happens.
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benchmark said:

aggiehawg said:

Now when discussing conspiracy charges, including RICO, the SOL keeps running as long as the conspiracy is in existence. So, if Brennan and Clapper had cut off all communication and said nothing since 2016, they would no longer have been active since that time.

Since you mentioned the R-word, what are your thoughts on qualfiying as as RICO conspiracy?

Those are very hard cases to put together outside of the Mafia type scenario, which RICO was designed to be able to prosecute the kingpins.

So I do not have high expectations of RICO being invoked here, maybe for discrete parts of it but not the overarching issues. Much of this was segregated into discrete groups.

Which is why I posited that getting to Marc Elias and others at Perkins, Coie can be the lynchpin for a lot.
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akm91 said:

This smells like a giant conspiracy...


Some might even call it a rico
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whatthehey78 said:

For us "ole" Ags who's time is growing short...IS ANYONE going to be prosecuted ANY TIME soon?????

TIA!


I have a sneaking suspicion that I will make this exact post in 23 years when I'm your age.
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Bazooka Joe said:

whatthehey78 said:

For us "ole" Ags who's time is growing short...IS ANYONE going to be prosecuted ANY TIME soon?????

TIA!


I have a sneaking suspicion that I will make this exact post in 23 years when I'm your age.

Whippersnapper.
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FYI: Limitations on Manafort were tolled because there was (allegedly) evidence in a foreign country the Feds needed to obtain. 18 USC 3292

Could there be evidence in Britain through Steele here? Spitballing. Still, it's only tolled 3 years maximum.

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