I is.

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I will delay compliance to the end. Or even take the $200 hit later.

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Don't be obtuse. The intent of this rule is not to collect retroactive tax stamp revenue. The purpose is to have a means for tacking on a firearms related felony charge for someone that gets tagged with a minor infraction. A warrant issued under a red flag law will lead to confiscation of all firearms and a conviction that removes firearms owners from the voting rolls.

The success of the J6 gulag is creating a demand within federal law enforcement for more domestic terrorists to prosecute. BATF is doing their part by creating a target rich environment for the FBI a.k.a American gestapo.

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Absolutely. I may or may not have a law degree/license, but would think any attorney with more brains than the dementia patient at 1600 Penn. Avenue (or his crackhead son) would tell anyone that risking federal weapons charges over a couple hundred bucks is abject insanity.

This is one of those 'not even remotely a close call' decisions. And anyone could be swatted at any time.

No matter what georgiag says, never, ever vote for a democrat (again, critical reasoning skills matter).

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I will delay compliance to the end. Or even take the $200 hit later.

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Don't be obtuse. The intent of this rule is not to collect retroactive tax stamp revenue. The purpose is to have a means for tacking on a firearms related felony charge for someone that gets tagged with a minor infraction. A warrant issued under a red flag law will lead to confiscation of all firearms and a conviction that removes firearms owners from the voting rolls.

The success of the J6 gulag is creating a demand within federal law enforcement for more domestic terrorists to prosecute. BATF is doing their part by creating a target rich environment for the FBI a.k.a American gestapo.

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I don't disagree with you there. I'm sure some discussed this as a bonus or some even have this as their primary purpose.

But they can't arrest you if you are in compliance or don't have the gun. I'm not giving my right to vote for only one of my dozen plus guns.

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Out of curiosity, would you ultimately ok with registering and paying a tax on all your guns, eventually?

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I will delay compliance to the end. Or even take the $200 hit later.

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Don't be obtuse. The intent of this rule is not to collect retroactive tax stamp revenue. The purpose is to have a means for tacking on a firearms related felony charge for someone that gets tagged with a minor infraction. A warrant issued under a red flag law will lead to confiscation of all firearms and a conviction that removes firearms owners from the voting rolls.

The success of the J6 gulag is creating a demand within federal law enforcement for more domestic terrorists to prosecute. BATF is doing their part by creating a target rich environment for the FBI a.k.a American gestapo.

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I don't disagree with you there. I'm sure some discussed this as a bonus or some even have this as their primary purpose.

But they can't arrest you if you are in compliance or don't have the gun. I'm not giving my right to vote for only one of my dozen plus guns.

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Out of curiosity, would you ultimately ok with registering and paying a tax on all your guns, eventually?

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No. I'm not ok with it for SBRs or suppressors. I sure as hell won't be for regular handguns or rifles. Or "ARs."

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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Walton...you were super active in this thread. Why did you disappear?

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I like my guns too much to be a liberal. I've actually changed the minds of many true liberals on gun control.

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Are you communist?

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I'm the same thing I've always claimed to be on this website, a leftist. I don't get along with liberals mostly because they're classist and don't care about poor people. Neither do conservatives, but at least they're honest about it, like the poster who said he would gladly step over the bodies of starving people on his way into the office.

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FYI a leftist is way worse in a conservatives eyes than a true liberal. Leftists want to use government to control people. Taking away their guns is one way to do it further.

Way to be hypocritical.

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I don't give a rats ass how I appear in the eyes of people who don't care about their fellow man, but regardless.

You're entirely incorrect. Leftists like guns, liberals don't.

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Right? I mean come on, haven't you'll seen all those Antifa guys and black panthers out with their AKs protesting?

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This topic is so bizarre to me.

I have shot a few pistol braces and everyone was inferior to a regular stock. So in my mind the ATF is worried about what? Having to fight people armed with slightly less effective weapons?

Or maybe the ATF is concerned the average gun owner isn't effective enough and this is their way of helping?

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What's your criteria for inferior and less effective? I think a 7.5" pistol 300 BLK with a brace is superior and more effective in close quarters combat, i.e., home defense than a 16" barrel 300/7.62/5.56 on an regular stock.

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I would care more about having the short barrel in that situation than the brace. I would be snap shooting and not finding my sights in such a situation and would be as comfortable, if not more ,with a collapsable stock.

Not that the brace vs collapsed stock would mean much difference.

And not exactly what I mean in this example but as I have the rifle fully mounted but all those close shots are just point and shoot. I didn't have the reticle in focus for any of them.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ck4Llo1DU3R/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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They knew when they made it legal that people were going to shoulder the "pistol brace." The time to outlaw it was before you passed it. This is entrapment.

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Another favorite trick of Federal law enforcement. Ruby Ridge, Waco, Michigan governor kidnapping, January 6th... Yet our elected officials and courts just let this continue.

https://www.atf.gov/file/58191/download

This is, again, not a complicated decision, boys and girls.

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According to the (ancient) statute, a violation of the NFA can result in a felony conviction punishable by up to 10 years in federal prison and/or up to a $10,000 fine. However, a more recent amendment allows fines of up to $250,000 for an individual and up to $500,000 for an entity, such as a trust or corporation.

Federal sentencing guidelines ordinarily require prison time, even for a first offense with no prior criminal record.

The statute of limitations on NFA violations is 3 years, but it doesn't begin to run on possession offenses until the possession stops. As long as you possess the illegal item, you can be prosecuted.

Any NFA firearm that was ever transferred or registered in violation of the NFA is subject to civil forfeiture (confiscation and destruction). So, if you inherited an unregistered SBR or machine gun from your dad, it's contraband and can't be registered or legally transferred to your children. It can't be used, and will eventually have to be confiscated and destroyed.

The forfeiture proceeding is separate from any criminal proceeding, and an acquittal on the criminal proceeding won't preclude forfeiture.

Criminal penalties for violations of the GCA include both misdemeanors and felonies. Misdemeanor convictions carry fines of up to $100,000 for individuals and up to $200,000 for entities. Felony fines can be up to $250,000 for an individual and up to $500,000 for an entity. Violations of the GCA also can result in forfeiture of the weapon.

And don't forget how they finally got Al Capone! Under the general tax evasion statute, a willful attempt to evade the $200 transfer tax is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in federal prison and up to a $250,000 fine for an individual and up to a $500,000 fine for an entity. This is IN ADDITION to any other penalties provided by law.

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Fed sentencing guidelines are no joke. 10 years is not an empty/remote possibility. People spend years in prison for acts that are frankly…ludicrously criminalized.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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The 150,000,000 dead from its implementation. Duh

Some advice/clarifications:

1) Don't rush to get your free tax stamp unless you had planned on getting a stamp for that gun anyway

2) If you want to file under a trust (for free), the gun must be owned by that trust before the date the ruling is published in the federal register (supposedly could be sometime this week). Note: Supposedly the efile system is currently requiring a trust ownership date of before 1/13 which I believe is incorrect (since that is not the publish date) and will hopefully get fixed once the rule is published or after yet another lawsuit forces them to correct it.

3) Wait as long as possible within that 120 day window - numerous legal proceedings will be happening.

4) If you acquire a braced pistol after the publish date the free $200 tax stamp is not available to you for that gun.

5) SBRs filed under this ruling do not require you to mark/stamp the gun with your own name/trust and location if the gun already has manufacturer markings on it.

6) Downside of SBRs is that they require approval/notification to travel across state lines with.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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I've never claimed to be a communist nor supported communism. Private ownership is necessary for a functioning society.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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I've never claimed to be a communist nor supported communism. Private ownership is necessary for a functioning society.

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See history, posting.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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Walton...you were super active in this thread. Why did you disappear?

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Had some pothos that needed repotting, and needed to treat my jalapeños for pests. Mealybug infestation that I'm still handling.

You shouldn't stay online all day, it's bad for your mental health.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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I've never claimed to be a communist nor supported communism. Private ownership is necessary for a functioning society.

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See history, posting.

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I'm gonna start keeping a spreadsheet of the labels y'all try and throw at me. Go ahead and quote your "proof" of me supporting communism, I'll wait.

The correct answer is to repeal the NFA'34.

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I will delay compliance to the end. Or even take the $200 hit later.

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Don't be obtuse. The intent of this rule is not to collect retroactive tax stamp revenue. The purpose is to have a means for tacking on a firearms related felony charge for someone that gets tagged with a minor infraction. A warrant issued under a red flag law will lead to confiscation of all firearms and a conviction that removes firearms owners from the voting rolls.

The success of the J6 gulag is creating a demand within federal law enforcement for more domestic terrorists to prosecute. BATF is doing their part by creating a target rich environment for the FBI a.k.a American gestapo.

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I don't disagree with you there. I'm sure some discussed this as a bonus or some even have this as their primary purpose.

But they can't arrest you if you are in compliance or don't have the gun. I'm not giving my right to vote for only one of my dozen plus guns.

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Out of curiosity, would you ultimately ok with registering and paying a tax on all your guns, eventually?

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No. I'm not ok with it for SBRs or suppressors. I sure as hell won't be for regular handguns or rifles. Or "ARs."

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A person not ok with this would have never proudly and openly supported the hyper left democrat party, especially the carney freakshow that is Biden/Kamala. I also don't believe you would ever vote for Desantis. They will tell you he's evil, and you'll believe it and proudly vote for anti-gun Gavin Newsome, or who ever the POS anti-American, anti-2A dem candidate ends up being.

Hell, I honestly don't even believe you own any guns. Maybe an old 20 gauge or something. But liberal male feminists who proudly and openly support people like Biden and Kamala Harris don't tend to own AR's and short barreled rifles etc.

I'm calling BS, final answer.

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I will delay compliance to the end. Or even take the $200 hit later.

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Don't be obtuse. The intent of this rule is not to collect retroactive tax stamp revenue. The purpose is to have a means for tacking on a firearms related felony charge for someone that gets tagged with a minor infraction. A warrant issued under a red flag law will lead to confiscation of all firearms and a conviction that removes firearms owners from the voting rolls.

The success of the J6 gulag is creating a demand within federal law enforcement for more domestic terrorists to prosecute. BATF is doing their part by creating a target rich environment for the FBI a.k.a American gestapo.

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I don't disagree with you there. I'm sure some discussed this as a bonus or some even have this as their primary purpose.

But they can't arrest you if you are in compliance or don't have the gun. I'm not giving my right to vote for only one of my dozen plus guns.

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Out of curiosity, would you ultimately ok with registering and paying a tax on all your guns, eventually?

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No. I'm not ok with it for SBRs or suppressors. I sure as hell won't be for regular handguns or rifles. Or "ARs."

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By your own words you'll comply because it only affects one of your guns, I guess you've got to decide when it is worth it, because you know it doesn't stop here. Next is high-capacity mags, then "assault weapons", eventually they'll get around to all semi autos, pistols, etc. At some point we all have to be willing to take risks to stop this.

This one seems like the easiest one we'll see for some time. 40 million guns and likely millions of gun owners affected, unlikely to succeed through the courst anyways. If no one complied, no uptick in Form 1 aps, not a single new Pistol to SBR on account of the rule, it would make a pretty bold statement in my opinion.

One of these days I guess (hope).

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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I've never claimed to be a communist nor supported communism. Private ownership is necessary for a functioning society.

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See history, posting.

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I'm gonna start keeping a spreadsheet of the labels y'all try and throw at me. Go ahead and quote your "proof" of me supporting communism, I'll wait.

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You have openly and directly supported socialism on here. I'm not going to bother wasting my time to dig up pro-socialist quotes from within the last 2-3 years, but you have basically admitted to being a socialist, or at the very least strongly sympathetic. You are certainly a die hard far leftist. Oddly though, you do seem slightly less rabidly left than you did back in 2019-2020.

I don't know why people like you don't just stand up for yourselves and embrace it, you always try to be something you are not. Who cares what we think? We'd have more respect for you if you just owned it and didn't try to wiggle out of it.

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So if I do not do that after this final ruling and just walk into a gun show the LEO at the front desk will put me in handcuffs and take me to county?

Scary stuff especially if you bought the pistol years ago and had no clue that this rule was coming down.

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One would hope they will be gracious in the enforcement of this, but it's in their discretion. Piss off a police officer and guess what?

You're a felon, can't vote, can't own guns, etc...

This law is entrapment. All by a three letter agency. This HAS to be struck down.

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You vote to enable the enforcement and enablement of such laws by voting for fake Christian Warlocks named Warnock.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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I've never claimed to be a communist nor supported communism. Private ownership is necessary for a functioning society.

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See history, posting.

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I'm gonna start keeping a spreadsheet of the labels y'all try and throw at me. Go ahead and quote your "proof" of me supporting communism, I'll wait.

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You have openly and directly supported socialism on here. I'm not going to bother wasting my time to dig up pro-socialist quotes from within the last 2-3 years, but you have basically admitted to being a socialist, or at the very least strongly sympathetic. You are certainly a die hard far leftist. Oddly though, you do seem slightly less rabidly left than you did back in 2019-2020.

I don't know why people like you don't just stand up for yourselves and embrace it, you always try to be something you are not. Who cares what we think? We'd have more respect for you if you just owned it and didn't try to wiggle out of it.

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Socialism is not communism, regardless of how poorly understood and blended the elements tend to be here. I've openly critiqued both in my years here.

I've had several significant conversations with staff regarding interacting with other posters, and coming here is an entertaining pastime where I get to see conservatives say things they're usually too worried about saying in person, so I'd like that to continue.

My positions have remained the same, I will always be in support of measures to limit government authority while ensuring that communities are able to thrive without the thumb of unchecked capitalism pinning them down.

Maybe if you can erase your posting history you can fool some folks going forward. Not buying it.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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I've never claimed to be a communist nor supported communism. Private ownership is necessary for a functioning society.

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See history, posting.

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I'm gonna start keeping a spreadsheet of the labels y'all try and throw at me. Go ahead and quote your "proof" of me supporting communism, I'll wait.

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You have openly and directly supported socialism on here. I'm not going to bother wasting my time to dig up pro-socialist quotes from within the last 2-3 years, but you have basically admitted to being a socialist, or at the very least strongly sympathetic. You are certainly a die hard far leftist. Oddly though, you do seem slightly less rabidly left than you did back in 2019-2020.

I don't know why people like you don't just stand up for yourselves and embrace it, you always try to be something you are not. Who cares what we think? We'd have more respect for you if you just owned it and didn't try to wiggle out of it.

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Socialism is not communism, regardless of how poorly understood and blended the elements tend to be here. I've openly critiqued both in my years here.

I've had several significant conversations with staff regarding interacting with other posters, and coming here is an entertaining pastime where I get to see conservatives say things they're usually too worried about saying in person, so I'd like that to continue.

My positions have remained the same, I will always be in support of measures to limit government authority while ensuring that communities are able to thrive without the thumb of unchecked capitalism pinning them down.

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Would you agree your political ideology is better described as Marxist and not socialist or communist?

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This topic is so bizarre to me.

I have shot a few pistol braces and everyone was inferior to a regular stock. So in my mind the ATF is worried about what? Having to fight people armed with slightly less effective weapons?

Or maybe the ATF is concerned the average gun owner isn't effective enough and this is their way of helping?

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What's your criteria for inferior and less effective? I think a 7.5" pistol 300 BLK with a brace is superior and more effective in close quarters combat, i.e., home defense than a 16" barrel 300/7.62/5.56 on an regular stock.

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I would care more about having the short barrel in that situation than the brace. I would be snap shooting and not finding my sights in such a situation and would be as comfortable, if not more ,with a collapsable stock.

Not that the brace vs collapsed stock would mean much difference.

And not exactly what I mean in this example but as I have the rifle fully mounted but all those close shots are just point and shoot. I didn't have the reticle in focus for any of them.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ck4Llo1DU3R/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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I should have clarified pistol with collapsible stock like the one Tarpon posted.

Marxism doesn't describe my belief system either. He has points that can be taken and adapted to the modern day, and even mentioned such topics as automation and the stresses on the infrastructure through increased trade.

But the central idea of putting complete ownership to the workers doesn't hold water in my eyes - without the usual leadership tiers, you don't have the structure required for the growth that led us to this point in our development as a global superpower.

Another good idea from Marx is having more in common with your social class - more in common with your neighbor - than with your political class.

Being able to take ideas from a wide range of sources is going to be key in the political landscapes of the next generations.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Would you surrender them if the government insisted you do?

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My positions have remained the same, I will always be in support of measures to limit government authority while ensuring that communities are able to thrive without the thumb of unchecked capitalism pinning them down.

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Yeah man, capitalism has absolutely crushed every black neighborhood in America...ruined the family unit and taken almost all fathers and male role models out of the picture in these areas. Definitely capitalism and not big government "I'll have those n-ers voting democrat for 200 years" LBJ Great Society socialist BS that you have supported. if we just have even less capitalism, maybe it will turn their lives and their schools around!

Meanwhile, Asian/Indian/African immigrants come over here with little to nothing, embrace and participate in capitalism, and their children thrive in ways beyond their imaginations. Often times the immigrants come here and thrive themselves.

When I drive through pretty much any urban black neighborhood, all I see is big government intervention, and almost no one participating in capitalism.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Would you surrender them if the government insisted you do?

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Workers? You mean citizens? What is this worker *****

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He's a wannabe Che...a pusher of socialism. An ungrateful heir all of the good capitalism has brought us. That is my biggest problem with these young brainwashed socialists. That they cannot simply just be grateful that they were born into the most amazing and benevolent country to EVER EXIST. They only see the bad in the country, and when they do, they attribute it falsely to capitalism. It's laughable...but also sad that so many professors and social media influencers are doing such a number on the minds of our youth.

Almost as if they come from entirely outside of the system that was put in place decades ago and made worse for minorities courtesy of your pal Reagan.

Most of the gun control issues we're dealing with stem from republicans being terrified of the Black Panthers getting their hands on firearms.

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I will delay compliance to the end. Or even take the $200 hit later.

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Don't be obtuse. The intent of this rule is not to collect retroactive tax stamp revenue. The purpose is to have a means for tacking on a firearms related felony charge for someone that gets tagged with a minor infraction. A warrant issued under a red flag law will lead to confiscation of all firearms and a conviction that removes firearms owners from the voting rolls.

The success of the J6 gulag is creating a demand within federal law enforcement for more domestic terrorists to prosecute. BATF is doing their part by creating a target rich environment for the FBI a.k.a American gestapo.

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I don't disagree with you there. I'm sure some discussed this as a bonus or some even have this as their primary purpose.

But they can't arrest you if you are in compliance or don't have the gun. I'm not giving my right to vote for only one of my dozen plus guns.

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Out of curiosity, would you ultimately ok with registering and paying a tax on all your guns, eventually?

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No. I'm not ok with it for SBRs or suppressors. I sure as hell won't be for regular handguns or rifles. Or "ARs."

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A person not ok with this would have never proudly and openly supported the hyper left democrat party, especially the carney freakshow that is Biden/Kamala. I also don't believe you would ever vote for Desantis. They will tell you he's evil, and you'll believe it and proudly vote for anti-gun Gavin Newsome, or who ever the POS anti-American, anti-2A dem candidate ends up being.

Hell, I honestly don't even believe you own any guns. Maybe an old 20 gauge or something. But liberal male feminists who proudly and openly support people like Biden and Kamala Harris don't tend to own AR's and short barreled rifles etc.

I'm calling BS, final answer.

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You're right. Nailed it. Dang you smart.

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Almost as if they come from entirely outside of the system that was put in place decades ago and made worse for minorities courtesy of your pal Reagan.

Most of the gun control issues we're dealing with stem from republicans being terrified of the Black Panthers getting their hands on firearms.

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This post is complete horse***** Take it to another thread.

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I will delay compliance to the end. Or even take the $200 hit later.

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Don't be obtuse. The intent of this rule is not to collect retroactive tax stamp revenue. The purpose is to have a means for tacking on a firearms related felony charge for someone that gets tagged with a minor infraction. A warrant issued under a red flag law will lead to confiscation of all firearms and a conviction that removes firearms owners from the voting rolls.

The success of the J6 gulag is creating a demand within federal law enforcement for more domestic terrorists to prosecute. BATF is doing their part by creating a target rich environment for the FBI a.k.a American gestapo.

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I don't disagree with you there. I'm sure some discussed this as a bonus or some even have this as their primary purpose.

But they can't arrest you if you are in compliance or don't have the gun. I'm not giving my right to vote for only one of my dozen plus guns.

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Out of curiosity, would you ultimately ok with registering and paying a tax on all your guns, eventually?

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No. I'm not ok with it for SBRs or suppressors. I sure as hell won't be for regular handguns or rifles. Or "ARs."

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A person not ok with this would have never proudly and openly supported the hyper left democrat party, especially the carney freakshow that is Biden/Kamala. I also don't believe you would ever vote for Desantis. They will tell you he's evil, and you'll believe it and proudly vote for anti-gun Gavin Newsome, or who ever the POS anti-American, anti-2A dem candidate ends up being.

Hell, I honestly don't even believe you own any guns. Maybe an old 20 gauge or something. But liberal male feminists who proudly and openly support people like Biden and Kamala Harris don't tend to own AR's and short barreled rifles etc.

I'm calling BS, final answer.

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You're right. Nailed it. Dang you smart.

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No your post history is just hypocritical at best.

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Some advice/clarifications:

1) Don't rush to get your free tax stamp unless you had planned on getting a stamp for that gun anyway

2) If you want to file under a trust (for free), the gun must be owned by that trust before the date the ruling is published in the federal register (supposedly could be sometime this week). Note: Supposedly the efile system is currently requiring a trust ownership date of before 1/13 which I believe is incorrect (since that is not the publish date) and will hopefully get fixed once the rule is published or after yet another lawsuit forces them to correct it.

3) Wait as long as possible within that 120 day window - numerous legal proceedings will be happening.

4) If you acquire a braced pistol after the publish date the free $200 tax stamp is not available to you for that gun.

5) SBRs filed under this ruling do not require you to mark/stamp the gun with your own name/trust and location if the gun already has manufacturer markings on it.

6) Downside of SBRs is that they require approval/notification to travel across state lines with.

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Can't you remove the pistol brace as a solution?

Then, if they over rule this years down the line, you've still got the gun and can reattach a pistol brace to it AND not pay $200 AND not register it.

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Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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Says the guy that voted for leftists that are dying to take our guns.

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Swing and a miss, champ.

Proud firearm owner several times over.

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Did I swing and miss when I said you voted for leftists since you claim to be leftist?

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There hasn't been a single leftist candidate in the entire span of my life that I've been able to vote. HTH

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So you have never voted for a democrat?

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That's correct.

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So what sold you on communism?

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I've never claimed to be a communist nor supported communism. Private ownership is necessary for a functioning society.

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See history, posting.

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I'm gonna start keeping a spreadsheet of the labels y'all try and throw at me. Go ahead and quote your "proof" of me supporting communism, I'll wait.

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You DID quote Karl Marx...