Israel/Hamas going at it

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Turkey's inclusion is the NATO version of a DEI hire. Tell me I'm wrong.
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American Hardwood said:

Turkey's inclusion is the NATO version of a DEI hire. Tell me I'm wrong.
It was important to contain Russia by having an ally in control of the only way to get from the Black Sea to the Med, and having Incirlik available to support the GWOT was important. But Erdogan has his own ambitions to be a rival to Iran and the Saudis in the Arab world, and his efforts to muck things up in Syria on behalf of some of the nastier actors over there are concerning to say the least.
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Prior to Erdogsn, Turkey was a great NATO ally. They helped prevent Soviet adventures in Iran after the fall of the Shah. Almost a 1,000 Turks died in the Korean War fighting alongside us.
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chiphijason said:

Prior to Erdogsn, Turkey was a great NATO ally. They helped prevent Soviet adventures in Iran after the fall of the Shah. Almost a 1,000 Turks died in the Korean War fighting alongside us.
They were a great ally while they had a professional secular military leadership that would step in whenever necessary to prevent the country from sliding into islamist rule. Erdogan gathered enough power together and decapitated that military leadership and replaced them with his own people. He has been hell bent on having Turkey become the next "Islamic Republic" ever since.
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IDF uncovered rocket/tunnel facilities at construction/hotel sites run by "Palestinian" American billionaire Masri, who just resigned his Harvard position after being sued for supporting Hamas and lives in DC.
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Masri, who had reportedly been advising President Trump's hostage envoy about postwar plans for the Gaza Strip, drew widespread acclaim for his work in developing the "futuristic" city of Rawabi in the West Bank and allegedly took millions of dollars US government funding for other projects in Gaza.

But those properties included "terror infrastructure" later uncovered by the Israel Defense Forces, according to the complaint, including tunnels at an industrial park just yards from the Israel border and a base of operations with rocket sites at two ritzy hotels on the Mediterranean.

Masri, who has a home in DC, oversaw construction projects at the sites through a holding company, Massar International, and businesses like the Palestine Development and Investment Company (PADICO), which he chairs.
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"All of this assistance was beneficial to Hamas in sustaining its iron-fisted rule in Gaza and in committing acts of international terrorism."

Lead Willkie Farr lawyer Lee Wolosky formerly served in legal and national security roles under former Presidents Joe Biden, Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton as well as White House special counsel for the 46th president.

Gary Osen, another lead attorney in the case, has represented the families of hundreds of Holocaust victims including Jews whose relatives had artworks seized by Nazis.

Masri's office denounced the "baseless" suit in a Monday statement, adding: "Neither he nor those entities have ever engaged in unlawful activity or provided support for violence and militancy. Bashar Masri has been involved in development and humanitarian work for the past decades."

The civil suit alleged that Masri violated the Anti-Terrorism Act in "knowingly" assisting Hamas before the Oct. 7, 2023, attack that killed 1,200 people including 46 US citizens. Another 254 were taken hostage and held in Gaza.

PADICO board member Dr. Dalal Iriqat posted on X the same day as the Oct. 7 attack that the atrocities Hamas committed were part of a "normal human struggle."

Masri had admitted a decade ago to helping with "planning" the First Intifada of 1987 against Israel but since burnished a public image of being a peacemaker in the West Bank and Gaza, earning him grants and other investments from the United Nations, European Union, World Bank and the US Agency for International Development (USAID).
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14606847/Hamas-list-demands-hostages-released.html

I'd tell Hamas to G*T with their "conditions".
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Some more not-so-fond farewells;
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Not a good month to command the Shejaiya Battalion.
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2000AgPhD said:

Not a good month to command the Shejaiya Battalion.


4 days is a pretty solid run. IDF is itching to reduce that time at the top even more.
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Rubio orders State Department office of Palestinian affairs closed.
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Per the Washington Free Beacon, the Office of Palestinian Affairs was a "Biden-era creation" that "repeatedly earned the ire of Republican lawmakers for its anti-Israel advocacy."
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The office repeatedly earned the ire of Republican lawmakers for its anti-Israel advocacy during the Biden-Harris administration. In the early hours of Hamas's October 7 attack, the OPA called on Israel to stand down and forgo any retaliation. Subsequent legislation sought to rein in the office, mandating it periodically report on its public diplomacy and advocacy efforts.

The Biden administration created the OPA in June 2022 against Israel's wishes, endowing it with the power to operate independently of the American embassy. It has come under fire in the past for its potential violation of the Jerusalem embassy Act of 1995, which mandated that a single U.S. embassy be established in the Israeli capital.
United States officials and "congressional sources briefed on the matter" also confirmed the move to the outlet.
Trump says only 21 remaining living hostages held by Hamas. -Jpost

The US ceasefire on the Houthi's does not involve the Israeli's, who just launched/conducted a massive strike on them. Still going after the 'bad guys,' in the north and south.

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Houthis fired on US and Israeli ships last night, don't think our ceasefire will last long
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P.U.T.U said:

Houthis fired on US and Israeli ships last night, don't think our ceasefire will last long

Need to drop some iron on them- couple 10,000 MOABs !
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Good follow;
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Is this true, again seeing this comment about his intent to cut US military aid reliance to this Knesset committee in a few places?

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu showed a desire for a gradual reduction of security and military assistance received from the US, amid differences with the Trump administration, local media reported on Monday.

"I think we will need to wean ourselves off American military aid," Netanyahu told the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee late on Sunday, according to the Israeli daily Maariv.

Netanyahu said Israel gets an annual amount of $4 billion to procure weapons, but Israel may move to abandon it, as was done with the economic aid.

The Israeli premier, however, did not provide further details on the motives behind such a surprise statement which comes at a time when Netanyahu's relations with US President Donald Trump see a clear tension, and amid reports that Trump cut off direct contact with Netanyahu, believing that Netanyahu is manipulating him.
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Israel bombed bunkers underneath the "European Hospital" which were holding senior leaders from Hamas.

so that would be warcrime 897 by Hamas hiding in hospital areas.

target: Mohammed Sinwar

some reports now that the IDF was able to eliminate the current leader of Hamas.
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Yep. Sounds like he was probably in the tunnels under this 'hospital.' Here's hoping, anyway.
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Sinwar, a senior Hamas military commander, is the younger brother of the former Hamas leader in Gaza, Yahya Sinwar, who was killed by the IDF in southern Gaza last October.
Following the killing of Hamas's top military commander, Muhammad Deif, last July, Muhammad Sinwar took charge of the terror group's military wing. Later, after Sinwar's older brother was killed by IDF troops, he became the de facto leader of the terror group in the Gaza Strip.
Israeli officials have described Muhammad Sinwar as obstinate with regard to negotiations with Hamas for the release of hostages, and an obstacle to reaching a ceasefire deal.
The younger Sinwar is also wanted for terrorist actions against Israel and has been active in Hamas for decades.
He was jailed by Israel in the 1990s for nine months and spent an additional three years in a Palestinian Authority prison in Ramallah, from which he escaped in 2000. In 2006, Sinwar was part of a Hamas cell that abducted IDF soldier Gilad Shalit. He also previously commanded Hamas's Khan Younis Brigade.

Just a swell fella, as with his idiot dead older brother.
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Confirmed Sinwar bro number 3 KIA, and Hamas offer:
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Israel reported Sunday it found the body of Hamas' de facto leader, Muhammad Sinwar, in a tunnel in Khan Younis after he was killed in a series of airstrikes last week.
At least 100 people have been killed in the latest series of airstrikes, and Sinwar's body was found as Hamas has offered to release nine hostages in exchange for a 60-day military cease-fire in an effort to slow down the fighting in the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas.
Sinwar was the younger brother of Yahya Sinwar, the former Hamas leader in Gaza. Another brother, Zakaria Sinwar, was killed in an airstrike Saturday night, other reports claimed. It's the third Sinwar brother to be killed in the ongoing battle.
Israeli forces overtook a hospital in northern Gaza on Saturday as an offensive to seize territory on the Gaza Strip continues, according to the Hamas-run health ministry.
Forces seized the Indonesian hospital in Beit Lahia, preventing patients, staff and medical supplies from arriving, the ministry said on Sunday, according to the BBC, leaving the medical facility inoperable.
Hamas made its hostage release offer on Saturday following a new round of peace negotiations in Qatar. Officials said there could also be a larger deal in the works to end the fighting that would include a Hamas withdrawal.
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This may feel like an old headline but it's not, Bibi declares another Sinwar brother has been killed.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14770059/Israel-firing-civilians-Hamas-31-Palestinians-killed.html

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Israel has denied an attack on civilians near a Gaza aid centre as 31 were killed and more than 170 people were injured.

The Palestinians were on their way to receive food at the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation hub - a new aid organisation backed by Israel and the US - according to health officials and multiple witnesses.

The witnesses said Israeli tanks opened fire on crowds around 1,000 yards from the new aid site
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It was the deadliest incident yet around the new aid distribution system, which has operated for less than a week.

The Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) strongly denied the attack was against Palestinians and urged people not to believe 'rumours' and 'fake news'.

Spokesperson BG Effie Defrin said in a video posted on X: 'I'm here in the city of Rafah. So far we have opened four distribution centres.

'We have already distributed over 16,000 packages of food to the people. Hamas is doing its best to stop us from doing so. It is spreading rumours and fake news. I urge you not to believe every rumour spread by Hamas. We will investigate every one of those incidents.'

I'd like to get LMCane's take on this because he's proven to have real time intel on this conflict.

My personal opinion is that these attacks on civilians are being done by hamas. I read an article that these new distribution centers by the US and Israel actually give the food and fuel to the people. The UN's is in bed with hamas and then hamas sells the aid to the citizens, at least what they don't steal for themselves first. The article said that a Palestinian man kept asking 'how much' when he picked up supplies from our new centers because he's always had to pay hamas at the UN's. Imho, hamas is targeting civilians that are receiving the aid directly and for free as intended.

If LMCane says that I'm wrong, then I'll edit this post.
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"Terrorist Attack" just happened at a pro Palestine walk in Boulder.
https://www.denverpost.com/2025/06/01/boulder-attack-pearl-street-mall/amp/
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It's a Pro Israel walk they do weekly.
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agdaddy04 said:

"Terrorist Attack" just happened at a pro Palestine walk in Boulder.
https://www.denverpost.com/2025/06/01/boulder-attack-pearl-street-mall/amp/


Nice details.
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Details are sparse there. Did the attack happen to the demonstration or coordinated WITH the demonstration?
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[url=https://x.com/xravenazut/status/1929293407714767323] [/url]
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Who?mikejones! said:

agdaddy04 said:

"Terrorist Attack" just happened at a pro Palestine walk in Boulder.
https://www.denverpost.com/2025/06/01/boulder-attack-pearl-street-mall/amp/


Nice details.
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3544827
nortex97
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Checking back in on this 'little' conflict.

Sad:

BlackGold
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nortex97 said:

Checking back in on this 'little' conflict.

Sad:


Eerily and sadly similar to our occupation of Iraq/Afghanistan... Probably going to see a lot of 20-somethings needlessly being killed by IEDs throughout the area while the occupation lasts.
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BlackGold said:

nortex97 said:

Checking back in on this 'little' conflict.

Sad:


Eerily and sadly similar to our occupation of Iraq/Afghanistan... Probably going to see a lot of 20-somethings needlessly being killed by IEDs throughout the area while the occupation lasts.
Wars are fought by 18--26 year olds since the dawn of time, so yep. Average age of an Army Captain in WWII was 26, not Tom Hanks, like how Hollywood protrays things.
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I am not sure what to believe of this report. Huge if true.

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samurai_science
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Palestinians have rejected the two state solution multiple times in the past, it will never work, they are a cancer.
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Everything is always two weeks away. We invoke it so often it has its own term, a fortnight. We should get back to using that term.
nortex97
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Just lovely people. And up north, I'd say the IDF hit 'something':
nortex97
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Apparently it was the Zayed family.

There has been a growing pushback on Hamas from what I can tell. I guess Israel has armed some.
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