IHIOprettygoodA (BIL is a 30 year experienced commercial pilot, my son is currently getting his degree in air traffic management) that the number exceeds 1000 over the last 4 years. For what it's worth. I don't have a documented number, just industry scuttlebuttQuote:
I would like to know if and how many qualified white, males were declined job offers because of some quota needing to be met.
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Months from now when we look back at 2025, which person will have been memory holed the fastest:
A. LV Trump tower cybertruck bomber;
B. NOLA Bourbon St rammer;
C. DC Blackhawk pilot;
D. Unknown person from an incident that hasn't even happened yet.
A. LV Trump tower cybertruck bomber;
B. NOLA Bourbon St rammer;
C. DC Blackhawk pilot;
D. Unknown person from an incident that hasn't even happened yet.
Hullabaloonatic said:This person wasn't in charge of US Health Policy. The ASSISTANT Secretary of Health obviously provides input and support but the person in charge of US Health Policy under Biden was Xavier Becerra who was a Stanford Law graduate and former AG of California. Hope that helps!El Gallo Blanco said:
Pay no mind to the weirdos who had absolutely zero problem with this car wreck of a dude being in charge of US health policy...
He still had influence. He was still the poster child of USHP. He delivered medical health information and advice. He is obviously a mental health wreck.
🚨🇺🇸 “Iinteresting morning - this is Jo Ellis”
— Concerned Citizen (@BGatesIsaPyscho) January 31, 2025
Jo Ellis goes online to shown the World it wasn’t her flying the Blackhawk pic.twitter.com/q1oih3AJWx
ANG Blackhawk pilot says it wasn't they and to stop bothering them.
Reads prepared statement from DOD and peaces out.
Surprised you don't follow protocol and use pronouns.Retired FBI Agent said:
The DEI narrative is just a distraction, in this case.
More troublesome is how Trump immediately threw his own military under the bus, blaming them for the crash before all facts were gathered.
The funniest part to me was that this guy played football in college with Joe Biden. The crazy in that administration was off the rails for decades.HoustonAg9999 said:Hilarious this defcon level deflection who in the hell would take advice from that creature, this would make me question Xaviers thought processHullabaloonatic said:This person wasn't in charge of US Health Policy. The ASSISTANT Secretary of Health obviously provides input and support but the person in charge of US Health Policy under Biden was Xavier Becerra who was a Stanford Law graduate and former AG of California. Hope that helps!El Gallo Blanco said:
Pay no mind to the weirdos who had absolutely zero problem with this car wreck of a dude being in charge of US health policy...
2024 was one of the wildest years of all time. Gonna be hard to top it.Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Months from now when we look back at 2025, which person will have been memory holed the fastest:
A. LV Trump tower cybertruck bomber;
B. NOLA Bourbon St rammer;
C. DC Blackhawk pilot;
D. Unknown person from an incident that hasn't even happened yet.
However as January '25 draws to a close, we sure off to a strong start.
Just glad he's enjoying retirement. He has no idea whatsoever whether or not DEI was a factor. Any honest investigator would agree.bobbranco said:
Surprised you don't follow protocol and use pronouns.
Well it is interesting how it is assumed Trump was speaking without facts in front of him. Its almost inconceivable he didn't know who was aboard right away. Since some of it is still unknown to the publlc, we can't yet see how it might have factored. Whatever it is.bobbranco said:Surprised you don't follow protocol and use pronouns.Retired FBI Agent said:
The DEI narrative is just a distraction, in this case.
More troublesome is how Trump immediately threw his own military under the bus, blaming them for the crash before all facts were gathered.
Anyone have a transcript of just what Trump said about the crash or didn't say.
Rebecca Lobach, the Biden aid who was flying the helicopter that flew into the American Airlines passenger jet in DC this week, attended PRIDE events.
— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) February 2, 2025
The statement her family released about her said she was a “partner”. https://t.co/Y8BU5Q9tri pic.twitter.com/jwUggTQiBB
Trump's earned the beinifit of the doubt. Next time Trump flys off and rages we listening intently.
She worked in the Biden Administration my guess this is a DEI pilot
Jbob04 said:Rebecca Lobach, the Biden aid who was flying the helicopter that flew into the American Airlines passenger jet in DC this week, attended PRIDE events.
— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) February 2, 2025
The statement her family released about her said she was a “partner”. https://t.co/Y8BU5Q9tri pic.twitter.com/jwUggTQiBB
Sorry i dont want my pilots marching in pride parades
Also, read her media accounts have been scrubbed pretty hateful things said about Trump
This is gonna leave a skid mark… it's almost like we all knew their would be some weird political connection for this event… main stream media will do all they can not to mention this pilotJbob04 said:Rebecca Lobach, the Biden aid who was flying the helicopter that flew into the American Airlines passenger jet in DC this week, attended PRIDE events.
— Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) February 2, 2025
The statement her family released about her said she was a “partner”. https://t.co/Y8BU5Q9tri pic.twitter.com/jwUggTQiBB
My little bird brain is now wondering what went down even more….
But I guess let's not draw conclusions and wait to see what comes out of the NTSB
Pretty sure Trump knew about her hence why he made the statement about DEI being the cause.
I take solace knowing if you were a real retired FBI agent you have zero authority or whatever influence under the current admin.
Perfect representation of why the corrupt government needs to be scrubbed . This guy is the epitome of corrupt
Perfect representation of why the corrupt government needs to be scrubbed . This guy is the epitome of corrupt
HoustonAg9999 said:
Also, read her media accounts have been scrubbed pretty hateful things said about Trump
I don't really care as long as they aren't taking anti-depressants/HRT etc. This gal may have been a democrat/lesbian or whatever but I don't think that drove her promotion to O-3 or assignment to the 12th Aviation Bn at Fort Belvoir. She was essentially a junior captain assigned to fly blackhawks in a unit whose missions include evacuating senior leaders out of DC in the event of an emergency, regardless of time of day, which meant she needed to be proficient flying at night in the area/up the river.
I'd have preferred they didn't hide her name for a few days etc, or wiped her social media, but we still have zero indication she was selected for Aviation or that assignment as a DEI related matter, let alone that her mental health drove her to take a deliberate action in the crash. Heck, we don't even know if she was the pilot in command at the time.
The Occam's razor answer remains that the pilot/copilot of the Blackhawk just got lazy/distracted looking at the wrong aircraft (probably through NVG's which basically suck with all the lights around them), while going 100-150 or so feet too high, and too far west, at a horrible time.
I'd have preferred they didn't hide her name for a few days etc, or wiped her social media, but we still have zero indication she was selected for Aviation or that assignment as a DEI related matter, let alone that her mental health drove her to take a deliberate action in the crash. Heck, we don't even know if she was the pilot in command at the time.
The Occam's razor answer remains that the pilot/copilot of the Blackhawk just got lazy/distracted looking at the wrong aircraft (probably through NVG's which basically suck with all the lights around them), while going 100-150 or so feet too high, and too far west, at a horrible time.
HoustonAg9999 said:
Also, read her media accounts have been scrubbed pretty hateful things said about Trump
Correct. That's why they didn't release her name immediately.
We will never know and because of the following it should always be suspect:nortex97 said:
I don't really care as long as they aren't taking anti-depressants/HRT etc. This gal may have been a democrat/lesbian or whatever but I don't think that drove her promotion to O-3 or assignment to the 12th Aviation Bn at Fort Belvoir. She was essentially a junior captain assigned to fly blackhawks in a unit whose missions include evacuating senior leaders out of DC in the event of an emergency, regardless of time of day, which meant she needed to be proficient flying at night in the area/up the river.
I'd have preferred they didn't hide her name for a few days etc, or wiped her social media, but we still have zero indication she was selected for Aviation or that assignment as a DEI related matter, let alone that her mental health drove her to take a deliberate action in the crash. Heck, we don't even know if she was the pilot in command at the time.
The Occam's razor answer remains that the pilot/copilot of the Blackhawk just got lazy/distracted looking at the wrong aircraft (probably through NVG's which basically suck with all the lights around them), while going 100-150 or so feet too high, and too far west, at a horrible time.
That is the problem with AA or DEI. We know as a group they are in fact inferior, we just do not know if that particular individual was inferior.
When I was a weekend warrior, I was very junior so I will not comment on the military recruiting and advancement, but I absolutely can on federal LEO hiring and advancement which has the same AA and DEI bs as the rest of the feds and since it was primarily a white male dominate occupation, it became a focal point for AA efforts right as I was starting.
I remember when I was interning with the FBI my senior year of undergrad and I was trying to decide my next moves after graduating to maximize my chances of getting into the FBI after I turned 23 and was eligible. I graduated undergrad right after I turned 21, so too young.
When I met with the FBI recruiters near the end of my internship, I informed them that I planned on attending a T14 law school as my entry path into the Bureau. They laughed at me.
The showed me the stacks of applicants arranged in their office. They said, "you see those stacks of applicants over there?" I was like that doesn't look like that many. They said, "those are women and minorities." "That stack that is 10x the size of those others is all the white male applicants." "And we can only select 1/2 from the white male stack." "What is your fallback plan?" "Is it law and being a lawyer?"
I didn't want to be a lawyer (Comical, because I have been one for 10 years now). I wanted to be in the national guard and a federal agent as my civilian job. "They said to apply to other federal agencies and if I don't get into the bureau later, I am already in my fallback job."
It was both disheartening and great advice. It taught me a valuable lesson that meritocracy is not followed in the federal government.
I ended up becoming a fed Leo 1811 just before I turned 22 and spent 4 years in the national guard. After 16 years in the feds, I left the to go to law school at 38.
While an agent, I watched AA destroy my occupation with inferior agents getting promoted to make some diversity quota. I saw inferior minority applicants get admitted to Georgetown Law that underperformed while in law school. None were at the top of the class. In fact, a couple of Georgetown Law Professors (which were liberals) were fired for lamenting about the plight of the diversity admits and their performance against their "peers."
It is not possibe to socially engineer an occupation by selecting 1/2 of the applicants from 10% of the applicant pool and expecting that group to be as qualified as those chosen based on merit from the 90% pool. And I'll say it. It is compounded by the fact that the 90% is inherently better at the jobs that I was doing anyway. Women have no place there.
It is without question that my previous occupations would be 90% white males if it was based on pure merit. Lawyering not so much, but it would be almost entirely white at the elite law schools if based solely on merit. Like 98% white.
If you want people to not correctly assume this, you should be for entirely merit based recruiting, hiring, and promotions. Until then ...
BLACK HAWK PILOT: She spent the last two years at the White House instead of flying? Why? pic.twitter.com/0FPopWNdWZ
— @amuse (@amuse) February 2, 2025
More photos
KJP's partner?
Jbob04 said:HoustonAg9999 said:
Also, read her media accounts have been scrubbed pretty hateful things said about Trump
Correct. That's why they didn't release her name immediately.
Exactly.
Back when I started law school, nearly 45 years ago, fully accepted 1Ls started in the fall. But there was a section of provisionally accepted 1Ls that were required to attend the preceding summer to take classes to see if they could cut it at a Socratic method law school. And it was not just a passing grade for both summer portions that was under scrutiny, it was how much improvement between the first and second sessions a student could achieve. Class participation, demeanor was also evaluated by their profs.Quote:
I saw inferior minority applicants get admitted to Georgetown Law that underperformed while in law school. None were at the top of the class. In fact, a couple of Georgetown Law Professors (which were liberals) were fired for lamenting about the plight of the diversity admits and their performance against their "peers."
Before I started that fall I think there were about 100 provisional 1Ls from the summer session. About 25 of them were granted full acceptance to go into the fall. By spring semester, there were about 15 left with 10 just quitting. And those 15 did graduate with my class.
So it was a combination of both AA but then meritocracy as they had to earn it to stay. Never really counted but I would say my graduating class was a little less than 30% female. Very few blacks, smattering of Hispanics and the rest white males. Like you, we also had a sizeable number of older members, mostly retired cops, in law school for their second career.
nortex97 said:
I don't really care as long as they aren't taking anti-depressants/HRT etc. This gal may have been a democrat/lesbian or whatever but I don't think that drove her promotion to O-3 or assignment to the 12th Aviation Bn at Fort Belvoir. She was essentially a junior captain assigned to fly blackhawks in a unit whose missions include evacuating senior leaders out of DC in the event of an emergency, regardless of time of day, which meant she needed to be proficient flying at night in the area/up the river.
I'd have preferred they didn't hide her name for a few days etc, or wiped her social media, but we still have zero indication she was selected for Aviation or that assignment as a DEI related matter, let alone that her mental health drove her to take a deliberate action in the crash. Heck, we don't even know if she was the pilot in command at the time.
The Occam's razor answer remains that the pilot/copilot of the Blackhawk just got lazy/distracted looking at the wrong aircraft (probably through NVG's which basically suck with all the lights around them), while going 100-150 or so feet too high, and too far west, at a horrible time.
She spent the past 2 years not flying. Maybe she shouldn't have been flying so close around Reagan? She obviously messed up on something so important about where the helicopter should be. I think that's rather basic. It was 150 feet higher than the 200ft limit around an airport - that is significant.
Interesting. I wonder why they went away from that model?aggiehawg said:Back when I started law school, nearly 45 years ago, fully accepted 1Ls started in the fall. But there was a section of provisionally accepted 1Ls that were required to attend the preceding summer to take classes to see if they could cut it at a Socratic method law school. And it was not just a passing grade for both summer portions that was under scrutiny, it was how much improvement between the first and second sessions a student could achieve. Class participation, demeanor was also evaluated by their profs.Quote:
I saw inferior minority applicants get admitted to Georgetown Law that underperformed while in law school. None were at the top of the class. In fact, a couple of Georgetown Law Professors (which were liberals) were fired for lamenting about the plight of the diversity admits and their performance against their "peers."
Before I started that fall I think there were about 100 provisional 1Ls from the summer session. About 25 of them were granted full acceptance to go into the fall. By spring semester, there were about 15 left with 10 just quitting. And those 15 did graduate with my class.
So it was a combination of both AA but then meritocracy as they had to earn it to stay. Never really counted but I would say my graduating class was a little less than 30% female. Very few blacks, smattering of Hispanics and the rest white males. Like you, we also had a sizeable number of older members, mostly retired cops, in law school for their second career.
We don't know that. She could have been flying still while detailed to the White House. We also don't know she was the pilot in command at the time.
We already know the CWO instructor pilot was the PIC, not her. What we do not know is if she was at the controls at the moment of the fatal crash.nortex97 said:
We don't know that. She could have been flying still while detailed to the White House. We also don't know she was the pilot in command at the time.
Why else? They were sued!Quote:
Interesting. I wonder why they went away from that model?
Shoutout to the poster that correctly predicted DEI on P1, post 4 of the main thread.
Your contribution is gone, but not forgotten.
Your contribution is gone, but not forgotten.
As usual ,the lefties I have ignored got smacked around on this thread because Trump was right. One clown actually deleted all his posts so he wouldn't be quoted.
Danny Vermin said:
As usual ,the lefties I have ignored got smacked around on this thread because Trump was right. One clown actually deleted all his posts so he wouldn't be quoted.
Prime08802 we hardly knew you, looks like he rage quitQuote:
As usual ,the lefties I have ignored got smacked around on this thread because Trump was right. One clown actually deleted all his posts so he wouldn't be quoted.
I appreciate your response but I do disagree some.
To your first point, I think you are largely right. I do question, based on demographics in America (and Texas) today that you are probably wrong in paragraph 2 above. I am, however, strongly in favor of an entirely merit-based, color blind society that does away with racial and ethnic quota's/discrimination. "I have a dream" if you will, and I think it would also benefit….historically minority people.Quote:
It is not possibe to socially engineer an occupation by selecting 1/2 of the applicants from 10% of the applicant pool and expecting that group to be as qualified as those chosen based on merit from the 90% pool. And I'll say it. It is compounded by the fact that the 90% is inherently better at the jobs that I was doing anyway. Women have no place there.
It is without question that my previous occupations would be 90% white males if it was based on pure merit. Lawyering not so much, but it would be almost entirely white at the elite law schools if based solely on merit. Like 98% white.
If you want people to not correctly assume this, you should be for entirely merit based recruiting, hiring, and promotions. Until then ...
If you are the commander of that unit and you got this lady that spent the last few years rubbing shoulders at the WH, you thinking whose contacts she got in her phone that could potentially cause me a problem?
Even though there's been regime change, and a new sheriff in town people like that can still do some damage.
So if you the CO, you probably got that in the back of your mind and thinking, 'ok, lets get this lady back on the flight line ASAP and don't be soft-pedaling it either.'
Next thing you know she transiting the Bolivar Roads of airspace at night.
Even though there's been regime change, and a new sheriff in town people like that can still do some damage.
So if you the CO, you probably got that in the back of your mind and thinking, 'ok, lets get this lady back on the flight line ASAP and don't be soft-pedaling it either.'
Next thing you know she transiting the Bolivar Roads of airspace at night.
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