Lol at the Bolivar roads of airspace.

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I appreciate your response but I do disagree some.

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It is not possibe to socially engineer an occupation by selecting 1/2 of the applicants from 10% of the applicant pool and expecting that group to be as qualified as those chosen based on merit from the 90% pool. And I'll say it. It is compounded by the fact that the 90% is inherently better at the jobs that I was doing anyway. Women have no place there.

It is without question that my previous occupations would be 90% white males if it was based on pure merit. Lawyering not so much, but it would be almost entirely white at the elite law schools if based solely on merit. Like 98% white.

If you want people to not correctly assume this, you should be for entirely merit based recruiting, hiring, and promotions. Until then ...

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To your first point, I think you are largely right. I do question, based on demographics in America (and Texas) today that you are probably wrong in paragraph 2 above. I am, however, strongly in favor of an entirely merit-based, color blind society that does away with racial and ethnic quota's/discrimination. "I have a dream" if you will, and I think it would also benefit….historically minority people.

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It is possible that I am wrong today about federal LE recruitment raw applicant numbers, but I know that I am right about racial and gender preferences still in actual hiring and promotion. My best friend is a HSI Special Agent in Miami at the very tail end of his career and laments the status quo constantly. He is Asian and can't stomach the lack of meritocracy.

I know I am not wrong about law school admissions even today. It would be 90% plus whites and Asians at the T14 law schools with DEI and AA. Something like a dozen black males and maybe two dozen black females score a 170+ LSAT annually and there are around 4500 T14 spots annually.

It would be very noticeable to only have a three dozen blacks sprinkled amongst 4500 students. So not even 1 in 1000.

Then they get their own on-campus-interviews separate from whites to funnel them into the most coveted post-graduate legal positions.

It is a sham and whenever I meet one, I assume they didn't earn it.

I'm no aviator but thats what comes to mind looking at all this.

If diversity hiring programs and quotas do not allow certain pilots or controllers to be hired with lower scores or experience why not make the data public? The FAA, NTSB, pilot and controller Unions, and the airlines have data on every safety incursion incident and accident. Why not release the data?

You'll never see it.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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I'm no aviator but thats what comes to mind looking at all this.

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I understood you 100%

Has all of this gone too far? It's a discussion that needs to be had but people on X going in hard and fast on this lady.

Black Hawk Tuah?

Come on'

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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It's no danger to me. I am an affluent 50 year old small business owner.

And facts shouldn't be dangerous to anyone. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. If you are from those groups and don't like the facts, change them.

But we are done lowering standards and endangering others because your feelings might get hurt.

Teslag said:

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And Trump is term limited. He can say whatever the **** he wants to now

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I would personally like it if he didn't piss in the punch bowl and hurt president JD Vance.

Not coming at you on this. Just a meme about the historical 3rd rail nature of this topic over the past 25-years.

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Has all of this gone too far? It's a discussion that needs to be had but people on X going in hard and fast on this lady.

Black Hawk Tuah?

Come on'

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It's way too far. So far her only sin is having a vagina and taking an additional duty at the White House

Maybe it's just a bad run for DEI boat and plane drivers as of late. Seems like we had a couple ship groundings and now this within the span of a couple months. Might take some more time to shake out. Problem is that over the past 4-years they got DEI people's confidence at an all time high.

In an operational environment, being over confident can be your worst enemy. Younger guys (and gals) hopped up on testosterone, piss and vinegar are invincible.

It tends to be the older guys who've seen some **** that tend to pump the brakes because they seen first hand what can go wrong and now trend more risk-adverse.

Accidents and disasters tend to be theoretical until you get enough miles under you to where they're not.

Teslag said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Has all of this gone too far? It's a discussion that needs to be had but people on X going in hard and fast on this lady.

Black Hawk Tuah?

Come on'

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It's way too far. So far her only sin is having a vagina and taking an additional duty at the White House

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BREAKING:

Teslag and SMR agree on something, more at 5.

Also, let's not forget that this was fresh on the on the heels of Tailhook and they were under immense pressure to show some progress.

What percentage of black hawk pilots are female?
The worst black hawk crash ever was piloted by a female
Interesting fact. Deserves analysis

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Teslag said:

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It's way too far. So far her only sin is having a vagina and taking an additional duty at the White House

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Sad to say that this has been the norm since '94 when Kara Holtgreen lost control of her Tomcat and rolled into the ocean. That incident ruined Military Aviation for women forever, especially since nothing was learned from it. To this day, AA proponents blame the crash on a "design flaw" with the F-14, rather than the consistent pattern of weakness shown by her training records, and IP complaints that she was being pushed through the pipeline by overzealous superiors in an arms race to get a female into the cockpit of a fighter jet.

Continue pushing intersectional box checking and this attitude will persist, to the detriment of those women who legitimately have the right stuff.

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Yep glad you brought that up. I had the same exact thought after this happened.

Will be interesting to see if her deleted social media postings are ever recovered and released. Something stinks

"Koziol confirmed that the instructor pilot in command of the aircraft had logged 1,000 flight hours and the other pilot had 500 hours under their belt."

HELO

JUST IN: Japan Airlines plane collides with parked Delta plane at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport; no injuries reported

pic.twitter.com/mWusbxLVxo

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) February 5, 2025

Bad couple weeks for aviation.

A fender bender that most would not have noticed but for the DC crash

pic.twitter.com/BMq5c69pd7

— I,Hypocrite (@lporiginalg) February 7, 2025

WTH is going on at Endeavor Air?! https://t.co/jQRx8T0I9Z pic.twitter.com/LpX5RYB7vU

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) February 19, 2025

Big if true.

Black box info out.

 BREAKING: The NTSB just dropped the Blackhawk helicopter’s black box recordings from the deadly Washington, DC crash with a commercial jet—and it’s a jaw-dropper. Here’s what it tells us:
 Altitude Chaos: The chopper’s altimeter was off—way off. Pilot read 300 feet,… pic.twitter.com/bmWjHx9Utx

— Project Constitution (@ProjectConstitu) February 18, 2025

Wrong thread.

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This wasn't just one mistakeit was a cascade of failures.

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As it often is

Swiss cheese model. Looks to start with the command the aircrew was under. No reason a training aircraft should have miscalibrated altimeters.

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he pilot in command of the Delta plane crash at Toronto International Airport received her pilot license only one month ago.

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If it is the right pilot, tht means she got her ATP a month ago, and could have had 1500 hours of total time, 500 of turbine time. Along the way, she would have received her student pilot, private pilot, and commercial pilot licenses. She would have added on ratings for multi-engine and instrument flight. She would have a type rating for that aircraft.

It's not like they went

And she wasn't the pilot in command

That post was on the wrong thread. It was for the delta crash, not this military one.

Look, more ignorant aviation tweets.

Misinformation is the new norm. Always looking for a gotcha. Always looking to troll. ****

This the internets.

Can't go to the beach then complain about the sand.

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he pilot in command of the Delta plane crash at Toronto International Airport received her pilot license only one month ago.

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If it is the right pilot, tht means she got her ATP a month ago, and could have had 1500 hours of total time, 500 of turbine time. Along the way, she would have received her student pilot, private pilot, and commercial pilot licenses. She would have added on ratings for multi-engine and instrument flight. She would have a type rating for that aircraft.

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1,500 hours for ATP done via part 61, 1,000 hours for restricted ATP done thru part 141 school or 750 hours for restricted ATP thru military training.

Most importantly, she was proper licensed to be flying the aircraft. However, her more limited experience is why she was flying that seat in a regional.

Finally, hours can vary greatly in aviation. Skills developed flying military training flights can be very different from going around and around the same pattern at an uncontrolled airport at 110 knots or flying/building hours in heavily congested class B in constant contact with controllers and dealing with traffic going at great speeds.

When a crisis occurs, pilots immediately revert to their training….which is generally a great thing. But, occasionally it is a bad thing because for the same emergency what is drilled into your head for a military aircraft can be different vs a civilian aircraft due to significant design differences….not to mention the affect on 100 souls seated behind you. Usually, a type rating isn't enough to overcome years of contrary training.

At the end of the day, the FAA and her airline had determined she was competent to perform the tasks she had been assigned.

This was my first thought from the early reports . The chopper was not supposed to be at that altitude in that space .