Vance Roasting Europe

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AC Hopper said:

After the speech, over lunch, the consensus of Europe's security experts was the speaker is a jerk and ass hole.
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BTW, here's a link to the full speech on Rumble via RSBN.

https://rumble.com/v6kqlia-watch-vice-president-jd-vance-addresses-the-munich-security-conference-2142.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Hey TexAgs... if you're reading this can you please set up an embed link for Rumble like we have for YouTube?

Vance in '28
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AC Hopper said:

After the speech, over lunch, the consensus of Europe's security experts was the speaker is a jerk and ass hole.
Good. **** those security "experts."

They are getting lots of Euros killed. They're frauds and thieves.
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AC Hopper said:

After the speech, over lunch, the consensus of Europe's security experts was the speaker is a jerk and ass hole.
Then its going to be a long, long 4 years for them
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Get Off My Lawn said:

Think of this as a Norm McDonald performance. Sometimes he landed jokes with great audience feedback, sometimes he just reveled in audience discomfort. Europe is long overdue for a wake up call.

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oh no said:


Maybe Mr. Pistorius can give us a hearty HARUMPH!

In the meantime, nobody cares. His opinion is meaningless, and there is nothing he can do but take it.
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titan said:


That might be taken as an endorsement given their character and exploitation of positions. The real interest will be to see how the public over there regards it.
I agree and think it would be worthwhile for you to monitor the reactions and report out with a factual post.
Also, couldn't agree more with Eliminatus' first post on here:

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The only thing I felt like had true merit was the dangers of unfettered open immigration but it was a sub point that lasted a few minutes at best.
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AC Hopper said:

After the speech, over lunch, the consensus of Europe's security experts was the speaker is a jerk and ass hole.
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They are using the globalist definition of "democracy" They are protecting their consensus of globalist institutions. They don't give a rat's ass about their populace
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We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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AgBQ-00 said:

They are using the globalist definition of "democracy" They are protecting their consensus of globalist institutions. They don't give a rat's ass about their populace
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Free speech and democratic mandates. The takeaways are not controversial even if the euros are offended. The United States will show the way. Great job VP Vance!
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For all the hand-wringing here, I traveled extensively in Europe during Trump's last term and the Euros I talked to loved him and wished their leaders:

a. had the balls he has and
b. worked for the good of their people like Trump works for Americans

Make no mistake, this is the European ruling class offended that someone dares speak the truth to them. They're not used to it because they work to silence it in their own countries.
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Jason C. said:

Good. They don't often hear opposing views. Make them eat how pathetic and ridiculous they've become. Love the Cold War imagery; they have all become the Soviets.
^ This!

And the following:
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"If the American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunburg scolding, you can survive a few months of Elon Musk,
In the future, historians will look back on this Vance speech as the beginning of the end of the European Left's :
  • suppression of free (conservative) speech
  • unfettered immigration and protection of immigrants over non immigrants
  • ridiculous climate change policies
  • overbearing and intrusive woke transgender policies and
  • politicians criminalizing conservative speech and policies
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I frequently feel like our "allies" are becoming as abhorrent as our enemies. Its almost like there are no good guys, only competing crime families governing the nations of the world. Even our own nation under Democrat control has been force for evil.
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newbie11 said:

Eliminatus said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

Think of this as a Norm McDonald performance. Sometimes he landed jokes with great audience feedback, sometimes he just reveled in audience discomfort. Europe is long overdue for a wake up call.
This wasn't a wake up call though. Not even close. This was a weird speech and honestly, tangent to me that was not the focus of everyone else there. Though there are other senators there to maybe hone in on specifics perhaps.

Just seemed tone deaf as all hell to me. Again, not a wake up call. A man speaking to a room who wasn't listening to him more like from what I could read.
You're delusional. The audience was trying to find a place to hide because his words were spot on.
His posting history suggest a strong anti Christian or "organized" religious bias. To bad, seems it to trump an otherwise logical well informed mind when this issue is present.

Whether people like it or not, their religious foundations or the lack there of strongly influence world/political view.
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AC Hopper said:

After the speech, over lunch, the consensus of Europe's security experts was the speaker is a jerk and ass hole.
These security "experts" are the ones that fostered the environment that allows the rape crisis rampaging throughout Europe.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
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AC Hopper said:

After the speech, over lunch, the consensus of Europe's security experts was the speaker is a jerk and ass hole.
Good, thats what we voted for.
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1836er said:


Like Reagan's speech inspired and gave confidence to the democratic dissidents behind the Iron Curtain in the 1980s to redouble their efforts against their Soviet overlords... my hope is that Vance's speech will both inspire and give confidence to the everyday people of Europe and the nationalist and populist movements that represent them, to stand up to their own commissars today.
I was thinking the exact same thing.

They didn't laugh at the Greta joke because it stung and because they aren't allowed to think that way. But maybe it cracked the facade a bit and helped tear down the wall.
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titan said:


That might be taken as an endorsement given their character and exploitation of positions. The real interest will be to see how the public over there regards it.
Well, my fellow Red Raider, we'll never know how the euro public will regard Vance's message because the ruling class and their lap dog media will not show it. And if they did they wouldn't care how they regarded it.

These are no longer free and democratic nations.
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ttu_85 said:

titan said:


That might be taken as an endorsement given their character and exploitation of positions. The real interest will be to see how the public over there regards it.
Well, my fellow Red Raider, we'll never know how the euro public will regard Vance's message because the ruling class and their lap dog media will not show it. And if they did they would care how they regarded it.

These are no longer free and democratic nations.
While that is true, do not their own autist wing have equally skilled ways to replicate a "Radio Free Europe" response of getting things out? Isn't that why the AdP in Germany is gaining --- why in France they had to rig the election outcome with that pile-on after a right gain?
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Wow ... I just saw a few more clips from the speech on HotAir. And I feel even more strongly that this was a very important moment.

Vance's defense of free speech and true democracy were pointed. And his calls for an end to mass migration were critical. When is the last time an American leader was so direct and so clear in defending Western values?

The delegates may have sat in silence but I guarantee they got the message.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

oh no said:


Maybe Mr. Pistorius can give us a hearty HARUMPH!

In the meantime, nobody cares. His opinion is meaningless, and there is nothing he can do but take it.
Hit the nail on the head….theres nothing he can do but take it.
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He made his point at a Security Conference - no security with censorship and open borders. Security is first measured inward then outward. This is a big shot across the bow of "liberal" Europe.
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Buck Turgidson said:

I frequently feel like our "allies" are becoming as abhorrent as our enemies. Its almost like there are no good guys, only competing crime families governing the nations of the world. Even our own nation under Democrat control has been force for evil.
Very insightful. And one of those ways is how somewhat war-mongering all have gotten. And casual censorship of dissenting views or even gratuitous arrests. In some cases openly for profit and their power expansion. That used to be a trait associated with the bad.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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EclipseAg said:

Wow ... I just saw a few more clips from the speech on HotAir. And I feel even more strongly that this was a very important moment.

Vance's defense of free speech and true democracy were pointed. And his calls for an end to mass migration were critical. When is the last time an American leader was so direct and so clear in defending Western values?

The delegates may have sat in silence but I guarantee they got the message.
And I feel even more strongly that this was a very important moment.

^ This!

Like Reagan's speech which was the beginning of the end for the Berlin Wall!

The beginning of the End for the European Left!
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Texas Tea said:

AC Hopper said:

After the speech, over lunch, the consensus of Europe's security experts was the speaker is a jerk and ass hole.

Exactly. Dgaf what they think. This wasn't a plea for friendship or consensuss. It was a warning. They now know our position. If they keep the current course, then we can take the next step on our own...

"you have Russia to your east, and hordes of invaders coming from the south. You are fundamentally unarmed, and are becoming unrecognizable and irrelevant to America compared to east and south asia. You will fail at keeping a lid on the 20% of your population who want freedom. Political instability will start soon. We are sorry for your predicament. Good luck to you".
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Eliminatus said:

akm91 said:

Disagree. Anytime you have a public forum to decry EU censorship to EU officials is appropriate.
Mention it sure, I am cool with that and think it has a place for sure, but it was the focus of his whole 30 minute speech. I didn't watch just snippets though. I watched the whole thing and have the full context and IMO, just seemed out of place when the continent has a major land war going on and everyone's focus is on that and the implications of that and Trump's still as of yet mostly fuzzy stance on it.
He's not wrong though in asserting that Europe's greatest threat lies not in Russa or China but in the migrants they've willfully allowed in that are terrorizing their native citizens.
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The European right is basically desperate for the US to do this because they all recognize they are vassal states. Whatever we say goes and they will change accordingly.
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Wildmen11 said:

Eliminatus said:

akm91 said:

Disagree. Anytime you have a public forum to decry EU censorship to EU officials is appropriate.
Mention it sure, I am cool with that and think it has a place for sure, but it was the focus of his whole 30 minute speech. I didn't watch just snippets though. I watched the whole thing and have the full context and IMO, just seemed out of place when the continent has a major land war going on and everyone's focus is on that and the implications of that and Trump's still as of yet mostly fuzzy stance on it.
He's not wrong though in asserting that Europe's greatest threat lies not in Russa or China but in the migrants they've willfully allowed in that are terrorizing their native citizens.
Not to mention the encroaching quasi-Maoist thinking that is starting to occupy their governments and make the threat from above them (rulers) rather than another country. As Covid previewed and so does censorship laws penalties.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Quote:

"The dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States and yet lands only in Europe."

Tom Wolfe
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AC Hopper said:

After the speech, over lunch, the consensus of Europe's security experts was the speaker is a jerk and ass hole.
Wait....You're telling me that world leaders dont like being put in their place, or having their 'wrong's called out in front of everyone?
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im watching German English language news...theyre all in denial...panties in a wad.
 
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