Vance Roasting Europe

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Aggie Apotheosis said:

So Vance pissed off the Europeans today and Trump pissed off the BRICS nations. They represent more than 1/2 the world's populations and approximately 62 percent of our international trade. Personally, I love visiting Europe and Brazil. I'd love to visit Indonesia. I remember when Republicans like Ronald Reagan were conservatives and extolled the virtues of free trade.

We're being undermined from within.





We haven't been getting free trade from the Europeans ever.

Ever.

It's never ever happened.

Such an incredibly stupid take.
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Cibalo said:

My friend in Germany sent me this message shortly after Vances speech.

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Please don't believe a word Vance said in Germany. The ones who do not tolerate freedom of speech are the very people he endorses (which frankly is none of his business), the AfD. And migration is not "out of control". This is all heading in a very troubling direction. I'm sad and frightened.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-expected-meet-vance-munich-security-conference-begins-2025-02-14/


Interning his perspective is the far right are the ones doing the censoring where we have seen her and in the UK that it is the left that does this while accusing the right of misinformation.
He also doesn't see immigration as an issue. Instead it is things like inflation, education, and infrastructure that need to be addressed first. I however don't see how you can address those issues when you have more people coming into the country than you can deal with as it directly affects these issues.



Didnt a "refugee" just kill people in Germany?
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Aggie Apotheosis said:

So Vance pissed off the Europeans today and Trump pissed off the BRICS nations. They represent more than 1/2 the world's populations and approximately 62 percent of our international trade. Personally, I love visiting Europe and Brazil. I'd love to visit Indonesia. I remember when Republicans like Ronald Reagan were conservatives and extolled the virtues of free trade.

We're being undermined from within.





Who cares. Those lily-livered, limp wristed, euro parasites deserve to be called out for what they have done to their countries. Only a liberal wouldn't understand that.

The one thing you are correct about is that we have been undermined from within. Not by Trump and Musk, though. It's been by your democrats, RINO's and other big government swamp creatures.
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Eliminatus said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

Think of this as a Norm McDonald performance. Sometimes he landed jokes with great audience feedback, sometimes he just reveled in audience discomfort. Europe is long overdue for a wake up call.
This wasn't a wake up call though. Not even close. This was a weird speech and honestly, tangent to me that was not the focus of everyone else there. Though there are other senators there to maybe hone in on specifics perhaps.

Just seemed tone deaf as all hell to me. Again, not a wake up call. A man speaking to a room who wasn't listening to him more like from what I could read.


Only a Sith and a beta male speak in absolutes.
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Aggie Apotheosis said:

So Vance pissed off the Europeans today and Trump pissed off the BRICS nations. They represent more than 1/2 the world's populations and approximately 62 percent of our international trade. Personally, I love visiting Europe and Brazil. I'd love to visit Indonesia. I remember when Republicans like Ronald Reagan were conservatives and extolled the virtues of free trade.

We're being undermined from within.





Serious question, are you a woman? If the answer is yes, I can understand.
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"White liberals are a problem in the United States and Europe. Film at 11."
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Vance simply pointed out that excluding Germany's second largest and most conservative political party (~ 22%) from being part of a coalition doesn't smell like democracy. It also greatly increases the political influence of the left. He is right. The German state media is very left-leaning.
His comments on de-industrialization and immigration were also on point.

It was entertaining to see both Letitia James and Boris Pistorius (German defense minister) calling developments yesterday unacceptable.
Get used to it.
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I think the message that needed to be delivered was loud and clear
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The balls in this administration...
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Though I felt the speech was spot on and necessary, it only briefly touched on the real core of everything evil thing,

DAVOS, the WEF. Which is the Schuabs, Gates, Soros, Obama, Bush's ,Clinton's the Rockefeller's the left, the LGBTs, the Climate scammers, the covid scammers and basically the anti God, anti Christ, elite who are demonic, deluded and evil Malthusians. They really believe the earth can only sustain a population of about 2 billion and (the Georgia Guide Stone creators said only 500 mill.) They believe population must be controlled and cut by 3/4s, This is the truth. They have stated it redundantly and they have, up to very recently had a strangle hold on the media. So basically all of these elites have a had plan, fully developed in the Club of Rome in 1968 and the end game of that plan is simple and redundantly stated. A NEW WORLD ORDER. - One world government that they control.

And as long as there are strong nations states with nationalism or patriotism then that one world order is unachievable. And the greatest threat to their goal is Christian morality based democracies, and especially the US and specifically the American upper middle/ class/ lower rich on down. Everything has been planned and done to destroy this class (what did the Covid scam hit the worst as far as financially? How abou tall the gov graft?). Furthermore, this class is their greatest threat because unlike other 'democracies' IT IS ARMED, The ability of a trained sniper acting independently to procure a 50 caliper rifle and blow the head off of one of these elites from over a mile away is an incontrollable threat. The one thing they fear is the masses waking up and coming after them, another French Revolution)

Ao, there really is no left or right. those are created oppositional forces, (white and black hats) as a red herring to keep us from seeing the real root of the issues we face and will face as time goes on.

We basically have had two forces in battle for some time now, since the fall actually. God and the devil and his minions, which translates down on the earth as the elite wicked who see people as 'subjects/slaves/fodder' and the people themselves who happen to be to the most part self centered and have been bought off with the trinkets of momentary pleasure.

Even the Nazi' trully believed they came from an Aryan race planet and that we are in cosmic war with other planet based races. These elite believe the same, and they not only have no problem with the killing of millions or billlions they are actively looking for way to do that, whether it be war or pandemics.

This is the truth and it is now slowly pushing it;s way into the light.
"only one thing is important!"
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VDH's take.

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VDH is nails.
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Vance caused Macron to call the European countries to an emergency joint hug room session.
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Nice write up but there are some of us that believe that the script was written before the creation, all pre planned.
Also, Most renowned preachers claim we are living in end times and if that is the case, the one world order is inevitable.

The devil is a great liar and rules this planet, Christians know how these plays out and recognizes the players that will be in control in the end times. NonChristians will be clueless.

Discernment is key in all things we read and see.
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Cibalo said:

My friend in Germany sent me this message shortly after Vances speech.

Quote:

Please don't believe a word Vance said in Germany. The ones who do not tolerate freedom of speech are the very people he endorses (which frankly is none of his business), the AfD. And migration is not "out of control". This is all heading in a very troubling direction. I'm sad and frightened.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-expected-meet-vance-munich-security-conference-begins-2025-02-14/


Interning his perspective is the far right are the ones doing the censoring where we have seen her and in the UK that it is the left that does this while accusing the right of misinformation.
He also doesn't see immigration as an issue. Instead it is things like inflation, education, and infrastructure that need to be addressed first. I however don't see how you can address those issues when you have more people coming into the country than you can deal with as it directly affects these issues.
Is your friend highly well off? The very well off have not been concerned about things like open borders and spreading crime and cultural rot because it doesn't impact them much. That's true most places. That may be part of your answer.

Another point --- the one that does censoring is the one in power to do so when it happens. The Right doesn't run Germany at the moment do they? Or the UK - all these censorship pushes must be coming from the EU toned officials, along the lines Opag just posted.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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SA68AG said:


VDH's take.



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VDH is nails.

He certainly is. That remark about their GDP is 60% of ours when it used to comparable is an interesting comment on the accelerated trend toward socialism they are engaging in.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Get Off My Lawn said:

Think of this as a Norm McDonald performance. Sometimes he landed jokes with great audience feedback, sometimes he just reveled in audience discomfort.

Ok I'm stealing this
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SA68AG said:

VDH is nails.
Always. The apologists don't get it.
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People are being put in jail in Britain and Germany for tweeting or texting "Should we be letting in so many of these jihadis?" after knife or car attacks. Literally in jail for "Disrupting public order" or "Hate speech". Good for Vance for standing up for Western values. Hopefully it's not too late(count me a skeptic).
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He certainly is. That remark about their GDP is 60% of ours when it used to comparable is an interesting comment on the accelerated trend toward socialism they are engaging in.
Converting the Common Market from a trade organization into a European government caused such a decline.

Is that reversible? In my view, only if Germany decides to exit the EU. Then it would collapse.

Any thoughts on that?
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Eliminatus said:

Meh. I watched the whole thing live and it's the first time I feel like I he completely missed the mark of the forum. This was a sub par speech IMO and was all over the damn place and felt more like a campaign speech here in the US than a European security conference.

The only thing I felt like had true merit was the dangers of unfettered open immigration but it was a sub point that lasted a few minutes at best.

Just a very weird speech and honestly, felt like it was meant just for the GOP base here stateside. Which I know will be eaten up here but just felt largely out of place to me. Just my coupla cents though. Usually impressed with his stances and bearing but again, this just felt like an unorganized mess, given the forum he was at. And that Musk joke was awful and I winced when it fell so flat.
His speech was awesome. You need to go visit Europe. I have been there 6 times for work the last two years. His comments are dead accurate. Your comments really don't state your disagreement. His comments on the growing constraints of free speech are a considerable security threat. The joke fell flat because they are all guilty of his comments.
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aggiehawg said:

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He certainly is. That remark about their GDP is 60% of ours when it used to comparable is an interesting comment on the accelerated trend toward socialism they are engaging in.
Converting the Common Market from a trade organization into a European government caused such a decline.

Is that reversible? In my view, only if Germany decides to exit the EU. Then it would collapse.

Any thoughts on that?


Germany is in decay but they may yet wake up
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titan said:

Cibalo said:

My friend in Germany sent me this message shortly after Vances speech.

Quote:

Please don't believe a word Vance said in Germany. The ones who do not tolerate freedom of speech are the very people he endorses (which frankly is none of his business), the AfD. And migration is not "out of control". This is all heading in a very troubling direction. I'm sad and frightened.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-expected-meet-vance-munich-security-conference-begins-2025-02-14/


Interning his perspective is the far right are the ones doing the censoring where we have seen her and in the UK that it is the left that does this while accusing the right of misinformation.
He also doesn't see immigration as an issue. Instead it is things like inflation, education, and infrastructure that need to be addressed first. I however don't see how you can address those issues when you have more people coming into the country than you can deal with as it directly affects these issues.
Is your friend highly well off? The very well off have not been concerned about things like open borders and spreading crime and cultural rot because it doesn't impact them much. That's true most places. That may be part of your answer.

Another point --- the one that does censoring is the one in power to do so when it happens. The Right doesn't run Germany at the moment do they? Or the UK - all these censorship pushes must be coming from the EU toned officials, along the lines Opag just posted.


He isn't well off, in the lower half of the middle class I would guess. So he is concerned about things effecting his pocketbook and his kids. He is very concerned about the far right AfD and the upcoming elections.

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If the AfD were a democratic party, the argument would hold. But there's a reason for the so-called firewall the other, truly democratic parties created. This is a party that trivializes the Holocaust and revitalizes plans and ideas by the Nazis. They are on a mission to dismantle the very democracy we and our allies, the USA chief amongst them, have been establishing over the last 75 years. Democracy means tolerating different opinions. But tolerance cannot tolerate intolerance.


It sounds like a lot of Germans are upset at the established parties for not doing anything to help the country. So they protest the other parties by supporting the AfD. However when it comes time to vote they will probably switch back to their original party.
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SA68AG said:

VDH is nails.
as always!
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Germany is in decay but they may yet wake up
But is Germany still the economic engine of the EU?
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Yes very much so. Germany is a lot like us. Urban areas are far left and lost and the rural areas are conservative and want their nation back.
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Europe not invited to the big boy table with Russia concerning the Ukraine peace talks,..neither is Ukraine invited.


They want the deal in days not months and think the Euros would cloud the talks. Meeting will be in Saudi.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-envoy-pulls-no-punches-europe-says-eu-might-not-have-place-russia-peace-talks

This might need a new thread…somebody?
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Teslag said:

Yes very much so. Germany is a lot like us. Urban areas are far left and lost and the rural areas are conservative and want their nation back.
Then, again IMO, if Germany withdraws from the EU, it collapses. No?
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Eliminatus said:

Get Off My Lawn said:

Think of this as a Norm McDonald performance. Sometimes he landed jokes with great audience feedback, sometimes he just reveled in audience discomfort. Europe is long overdue for a wake up call.
This wasn't a wake up call though. Not even close. This was a weird speech and honestly, tangent to me that was not the focus of everyone else there. Though there are other senators there to maybe hone in on specifics perhaps.

Just seemed tone deaf as all hell to me. Again, not a wake up call. A man speaking to a room who wasn't listening to him more like from what I could read.

Don't give a **** if they were listening in the moment, after it's amplified on X they will damn well have to listen and respond!

Freaking awesome public square!!!
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oh no said:

SA68AG said:

VDH is nails.
as always!
Wish he were made Secretary of "Common Sense".
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whatthehey78 said:

oh no said:

SA68AG said:

VDH is nails.
as always!
Wish he were made Secretary of "Common Sense".
He'd turn it down. Being government ain't his thing.
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If you really want to understand what's going on in the world, all you need to listen to are VDH and Thomas Sowell.
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Pistorius is on the far-left wing of the SPD, so of course he's going to whine about JD pooping it the EU sandbox. He's irrelevant in ten days, anyway.

AfD is the MAGA of Germany and the EU - if you actually look at their proposed policies, they are just common sense answers to the sh$t show Europe is currently in - something the powers that be in the EU do not want to hear, let alone admit.
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