Thank you President Trump for calling out Ukraine and Zelenskyy

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11:08a, 2/19/25


We the American people have suffered during the last four years from high inflation/high prices, high crime, and high illegal immigration/open borders. Instead of protecting our own borders, the Democrat Biden administration protected the borders of Ukraine. Democrats gave $350 billion to Ukraine while the American people's own southern border was wide open. Instead of fixing and improving our crime ridden crumbling cities and urban areas, Democrats gave hundreds of billions to protect Ukrainian cities. They gave $350 billion to Ukraine while we could not afford to feed our families because the price of everything doubled under Biden and the Democrats. Near the end of the last Democrat regime they waved the flag of another country on the floor of Congress to taunt hardworking taxpaying law abiding Americans. Thank you President Trump for putting America first and calling out that Dictator without Elections Zelenskyy. You speak for the American people. The people who support this war are an extremely tiny minority made up of sheltered luxury beliefs Democrats, and neoliberal/neocon warmongers benefitting monetarily at the expense of the taxpayer like Joe Biden, Antony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Jake Sullivan, and Roger Wicker.
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11:10a, 2/19/25
This Trump Zelensky bromance is all hugs & kisses
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In reply to TheWoodlandsTxAg • 11:16a, 2/19/25
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I'm starting to think Zelensky calling Trump a liar who spouted Russian disinformation was…a mistake.
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11:22a, 2/19/25
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trump tore down Putins and the world's most feared and hated US organization: regime meddling and changing USAid. Trump's using rhetoric that 100% supports Russia's narratives about the war, and US/Nato aggression since the fall of the soviet empire.

I think we've gotten one(?) prisoner released from Russian prisons, and a denial from Ukraine on the issue of repayment for the war in the form of resource sharing.

What do we realistically expect to get from ending the war besides simply not paying for it to continue? Is that enough?

Scott Bessant suggested on Brett Baier that trump will deserve a noble peace prize f the war ends...however, i think Putin will be viewed as the aggrieved winner in all of this. Am I wrong?

I'm 100% on trump's side...but I think the narrative on this is diff than trump is spinning it (at least so far)
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11:25a, 2/19/25
That's going to make peace a little harder to achieve.
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In reply to rgvag11 • 11:29a, 2/19/25
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rgvag11 said:
That's going to make peace a little harder to achieve.
We are currently at peace with Russia and Ukraine.

It is up to them to achieve peace with one another.

Our roll is to help facilitate to achieve a peace that best benefits US interests.

Zelensky may or may not be the leader of Ukraine that serves our best interests.

Zelensky thinks he has power. He is a figurehead dictator grifting money, weapons and supplies whilst wearing olive green jumpsuits and acting his way into the hearts and minds of the most gullible among us.

Trump sees through the ish and is going to drive a deal, Zelensky's fweewings aside.
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11:31a, 2/19/25
If you say so.
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11:33a, 2/19/25
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What would Zelinsky prefer?

1. A peace deal brokered by Trump where Ukraine would lose some of their territory to Russia

Or

2. Deal with Russia on their own without US dollars?
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11:39a, 2/19/25
So we're rewarding Russia for taking Ukrainian soil?
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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11:42a, 2/19/25
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Remember how our politicos and the media INSISTED that we support Ukraine, and send them endless treasure?

Anyone who has been around a while saw that unified reaction as the first sign of trouble, and became suspicious immediately.
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11:45a, 2/19/25
what a crazy coincidence that one month into trump's presidency russia and putin are about to get everything they wanted when they invaded their sovereign neighbor!
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In reply to Old McDonald • 11:48a, 2/19/25
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Yes, it is known that Putin has been holding the Moscow pee tapes and as soon as Trump was re-elected he called his best buddy and told him in exchange for the pee tapes he would allow Russia to retake all former Soviet states.

This is just the first one.

Stay tuned for more hot takes on what is going on with these "crazy coincidences".
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In reply to rgvag11 • 11:49a, 2/19/25
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rgvag11 said:
That's going to make peace a little harder to achieve.


Why is that? Putin is the aggressor. If you convince Putin to stop fighting, the war is over. Putin cankeep the land he occupies. What is Zelensky going to do? Attack Russia in those occupied lands and extend the war? Good luck with that. The gravy train is over.
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11:51a, 2/19/25
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Zelensky needs to start planning his exile or he may not be sucking air much longer…
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11:52a, 2/19/25
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Ukraine is nothing more than a money laundering scheme to enrich certain people in our country and a few others with our tax dollars…

The US can end it right now simply by shutting down the scheme (here's looking at you, USAID)…
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In reply to Ghost of Andrew Eaton • 11:53a, 2/19/25
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Vietnam is one of the U.S.'s biggest trade partners
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11:56a, 2/19/25
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Let's not forget 10% to the big guy is $35B
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11:57a, 2/19/25
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Big, beautiful Ocean lol !!

Damn I missed the way he talks !!

We are back !!
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11:58a, 2/19/25
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The anti-Russian people are can't see the macro-geopolitical situation.

China is America's #1 enemy for the foreseeable future. Russia is not near the level of China, but is still a strong player on the world stage. All of our actions have driven one of the strongest world actors straight into China's camp.

In our struggle with China we will need Russia as our friend, not our enemy.

What does Russia want? Russia wants to control what it sees as its natural sphere of influence in Eastern Europe and Central Asia. What if I told you that up until 2008ish-2014 that's essentially what was going on? They had their puppets installed that heavily favored Russian interests. That's what they want again, they don't want more territory that's going to be called "Russia".

Why not give that to them? In exchange for favoring us against China?
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In reply to Old McDonald • 12:00p, 2/19/25
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Old McDonald said:
what a crazy coincidence that one month into trump's presidency russia and putin are about to get everything they wanted when they invaded their sovereign neighbor!


Your understanding of foreign diplomacy would embarrass a first grader.
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In reply to Sid Farkas • 12:02p, 2/19/25
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Sid Farkas said:
What do we realistically expect to get from ending the war besides simply not paying for it to continue? Is that enough?

As long as the majority of Ukraine remains autonomous, then, yes.

Scott Bessant suggested on Brett Baier that trump will deserve a noble peace prize f the war ends...however, i think Putin will be viewed as the aggrieved winner in all of this. Am I wrong?

Probably not. Not our problem.

I'm 100% on trump's side...but I think the narrative on this is diff than trump is spinning it (at least so far)

Pretty sure the American people are not the primary audience of his comments. This is a guy that pushed forward the Abraham Accords, and settled on a position of reciprocal tariffs after getting concessions for threatening 25% across the board tariffs. You have to seem just a little bit crazy for the Art of the Deal to work. You have to make insane bluffs, but be just crazy enough to back up your bluffs every once in a while.
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In reply to W • 12:02p, 2/19/25
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W said:
Vietnam is one of the U.S.'s biggest trade partners
Vietnamese is the 3rd most spoken language in Texas.

I like Pho.
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In reply to Old McDonald • 12:03p, 2/19/25
Only a sovereign nation for as long as they can keep it.
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In reply to rgag12 • 12:03p, 2/19/25
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Agree with your post for the most part, but I would posit our #1 enemy is the globalist regime that has been attacking us from outside and within for decades now. From enticing us to endless wars, the grift being exposed by DOGE, ESG, DEI, endless racism battles, open borders, unfair trade policies / trade deficits.

We did not find ourselves in this predicament by accident. Its been a well-funded (thanks Soros, Gates, Buffet) and well-led attack (looking at you Obama & friends) attacking us in our food, entertainment, economies, military readiness, energy supplies and encouraging our dependence on foreign oft hostile nations like China.

China and Russia are merely pawns in an attempt to destroy America. Why? Because we have been a self-determined country based on moral and godly values and that cannot be allowed to persist.
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In reply to Old McDonald • 12:04p, 2/19/25
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Old McDonald said:
what a crazy coincidence that one month into trump's presidency russia and putin are about to get everything they wanted when they invaded their sovereign neighbor!
Do you have a better idea?

Ukraine is not going to get it territory back without US/NATO troops on the ground and air power in the sky. We both know that's not going to happen.

Funding endless war likewise is not going to result in Ukraine regaining their territory. However endless war will eventually see Ukraine run out of bodies to throw at the front long before Russia does.

You can say it's giving Putin what he wants but he already has it and no one is taking it from him. And if this goes on long enough he may get the whole thing.
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In reply to TxSquarebody • 12:04p, 2/19/25
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TxSquarebody said:
Only a sovereign nation for as long as they can keep it.


Isn't that what they are being demonized for trying to do?
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In reply to Ghost of Andrew Eaton • 12:06p, 2/19/25
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So we're rewarding Russia for taking Ukrainian soil?
We don't own Ukraine, so their soil is not ours to award or deny to anyone.

Also, I don't see anyone here saying that it would be a good idea to let Russia take Kiev. Pretty much the whole country was aligned about stopping that.

I'm glad Kiev is not under Russian control. I have no interest in helping either side with their border war. Not our problem.
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In reply to Teslag • 12:07p, 2/19/25
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TxSquarebody said:
Only a sovereign nation for as long as they can keep it.


Isn't that what they are being demonized for trying to do?
No, they are free to do that. We shouldnt have to give them hundreds of billions of dollars. Let other nations slug it out over border lines. Only get involved when it is absolutely critical to our safety and well being...or maybe even if our economy is seriously threatened.
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In reply to Old McDonald • 12:07p, 2/19/25
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Old McDonald said:
what a crazy coincidence that one month into trump's presidency russia and putin are about to get everything they wanted when they invaded their sovereign neighbor!
Pretty sure Russia won't get Kiev, which is what Putin really wanted.

You going on the record to say that Russia will be handed over the keys to Kiev by Trump, because that is what you are implying.
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In reply to BusterAg • 12:07p, 2/19/25
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Also, I don't see anyone here saying that it would be a good idea to let Russia take Kiev. Pretty much the whole country was aligned about stopping that.


There are several here who have quite literally said they want to see this happen.
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In reply to El Gallo Blanco • 12:08p, 2/19/25
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El Gallo Blanco said:
Teslag said:
TxSquarebody said:
Only a sovereign nation for as long as they can keep it.


Isn't that what they are being demonized for trying to do?
No, they are free to do that. We shouldnt have to give them hundreds of billions of dollars. Let other nations slug it out over border lines. Only get involved when it is absolutely critical to our safety and well being...or maybe even if our economy is seriously threatened.


That's fair and reasonable. But not sure why the Ukrainians and their leaders should be shamed because they tried to do everything possible to avoid subjugation.
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In reply to nortex97 • 12:10p, 2/19/25
nortex97 said:
I'm starting to think Zelensky calling Trump a liar who spouted Russian disinformation was…a mistake.


Also trying to get Americans censored during the Biden admin didn't help either
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 12:11p, 2/19/25
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flown-the-coop said:
Agree with your post for the most part, but I would posit our #1 enemy is the globalist regime that has been attacking us from outside and within for decades now. From enticing us to endless wars, the grift being exposed by DOGE, ESG, DEI, endless racism battles, open borders, unfair trade policies / trade deficits.

We did not find ourselves in this predicament by accident. Its been a well-funded (thanks Soros, Gates, Buffet) and well-led attack (looking at you Obama & friends) attacking us in our food, entertainment, economies, military readiness, energy supplies and encouraging our dependence on foreign oft hostile nations like China.

China and Russia are merely pawns in an attempt to destroy America. Why? Because we have been a self-determined country based on moral and godly values and that cannot be allowed to persist.
I agree with this, but you forgot American Exceptionalism.

The goal is to make the U.S. less economically competitive so that a global hegemony can exists. It can't as long as U.S. workers are more willing to work harder and take more risks than European citizens.
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In reply to Teslag • 12:11p, 2/19/25
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Also, I don't see anyone here saying that it would be a good idea to let Russia take Kiev. Pretty much the whole country was aligned about stopping that.


There are several here who have quite literally said they want to see this happen.


Who cares what posters say? JFC

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Teslag said:
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Also, I don't see anyone here saying that it would be a good idea to let Russia take Kiev. Pretty much the whole country was aligned about stopping that.


There are several here who have quite literally said they want to see this happen.
Who? Where?
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