Why Are The Dems Defending MS-13 Gang Members So Desperately?

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2000AgPhD
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Because if they can get a POS like Abrego-Garcia back, that will pretty much kill off Trump's deportation plans and allow all 12-15 million illegals to remain in-country and eventually vote Democrat when the Dems push amnesty through under a D-controlled Congress and WH. "How can you deport this poor Guatemalan laborer when even Kilmar was allowed to stay?"

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Orange Man Bad

They reflexively oppose anything Trump does or anything that's good and wholesome for that matter. They are brainwashed idiots that don't know any better because they live under the biggest propaganda bubble the world has ever seen.
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They somehow think they can convince people that innocent American citizens are being deported by Trump for "being brown" and therefore letting millions of illegals and gang members stay here is the price we must pay. It's the Dem "if even one" fallacy. You may remember it from COVID to the tune of "if this illegal and unconstitutional tyranny saves even one life it's worth it!"
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the better question is why hasn't AOC flown down to cry at the gate of the prison
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If Dems really want to make this an issue, then republicans should oblige. Over 90% of voters want criminals and terrorists out of this country. The 2026 elections should be all about how dems are doubling down on destroying the country.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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mental illness for $100?
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Maroon Dawn said:

They somehow think they can convince people that innocent American citizens are being deported by Trump for "being brown" and therefore letting millions of illegals and gang members stay here is the price we must pay. It's the Dem "if even one" fallacy. You may remember it from COVID to the tune of "if this illegal and unconstitutional tyranny saves even one life it's worth it!"
Rio Grande Rojo voters in the last election have blown up the "Trump hates brown people" angle the MSM was trying to craft. Nobody believes them so good luck with that. Brown people don't want the illegals here either. Look for another double-digit gain in the next election from "brown people".
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Another great question that hasn't been asked by the media - seeing the results of cleaning up the border mess in the first 100 days WHY and HOW was it allowed to get so out of control, literally open borders? Call them out and see if they will answer the real reason they deliberately let it get out of control.
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2000AgPhD said:

Because if they can get a POS like Abrego-Garcia back, that will pretty much kill off Trump's deportation plans and allow all 12-15 million illegals to remain in-country and eventually vote Democrat when the Dems push amnesty through under a D-controlled Congress and WH. "How can you deport this poor Guatemalan laborer when even Kilmar was allowed to stay?"




They're trying to lay the accusation of lawless racist hater at his feet.

And he's trying to lay allegation that he cares for Americans and will do what is required to fix the country.
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No one in the Biden regime explained why they did what they did. No answer. They do not represent America's interests.
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the better question is why hasn't AOC flown down to cry at the gate of the prison
Thank you. This is, I believe, the second time you've set up my meme...

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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Birds of a feather ....
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The left is deranged and full of hate.

In case folks don't recall, they treated George W in a terrible manner. And he was at best a moderate! Heck, he expanded Medicare and passed NCLB. He was also mild mannered.

Trump is far more conservative, confrontational and calls out their idiocy. They think he is Hitler incarnate. Thus they oppose anything he does.

This level of insane rage has probably not been witnessed on earth since the Jews crucified Jesus. It's demonic driven.
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The guy in Maryland is the only one I have seen get any kind of traction and it is blowing by already.

He actually has been the closest person to innocence that has been sent there? He is the only one without face tats?

I will give credit to Trump, pundits were wondering "why him?" Why are they making this guy an example and not someone REALLY BAD? He basically baited the MSM to latch on to him and get the DEMs to go to batt for a criminal, further making them look dumb, idk how much dumber you can get though.

Do not let this guy back though, tell Bukele to hold strong. You don't want him out because it gives the MSM someone to parade around like he is a sweet innocent child. Even though most will roll their eyes, you do not take that chance. All they have is a pic of him and a crazy wife to go off of, oh and he had kids.

Give people incentives to develop down in El Salvador or something, do not give me budget crap, we need a huge presence down there obviously because look at our country over populated with trash from Biden and the rest of the idiot presidents before him. And that is where the world gathers their caravans








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The focus grouped this with their radical base and it came back that it was a good idea.
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TexAgs91 said:

If Dems really want to make this an issue, then republicans should oblige. Over 90% of voters want criminals and terrorists out of this country. The 2026 elections should be all about how dems are doubling down on destroying the country.
For the love of GOD, this!

RNC should be running ads RIGHT NOW, with video clips/stats/crime stats/costs to taxpayers/protests and funding for them/on down the line. It is beyond a slam dunk to expose this to any of the folks gullible enough to not be paying attention or believing MSM news. Don't waste the money running it on Fox/Newsmax/etc - strictly run it on the legacy MSM. I don't think they would dare deny selling the tv spots, with today's DOJ microscope and the fear of more bias-based lawsuits.

Go ahead and get 'er going, NOW.
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As a resident far left heathen, I do not defend any MS. 13 member. I do defend due process as guaranteed in our Constitution for all persons on our soil. I realize the rightist view is the Constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens, but words matter I am of the opinion, and the courts have generally accepted, that "people" and "persons" apply almost universally. SCOTUS goes further than I would when giving corporations personhood. Even further, a critical point in the abortion debate is when is a fetus a person? That's not for me to derail here. However, if you use the logic that the Constitution only applies to citizens, then not corporations and unborn children have no rights because citizen is gained on birth.
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1. It came out that Trump's communication uses the word mistake.

2. So the left jumped on it.

3. Left doesn't care about anyone. They don't like girls that were brutally raped and murdered by illegals.

4. Left doesn't care about the illegal thug that raped and murder.

5. Left cares about scoring points. They thought the word "mistake" was a point scorer so they jumped on it.
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Jack Squat 83 said:

TexAgs91 said:

If Dems really want to make this an issue, then republicans should oblige. Over 90% of voters want criminals and terrorists out of this country. The 2026 elections should be all about how dems are doubling down on destroying the country.
For the love of GOD, this!

RNC should be running ads RIGHT NOW, with video clips/stats/crime stats/costs to taxpayers/protests and funding for them/on down the line. It is beyond a slam dunk to expose this to any of the folks gullible enough to not be paying attention or believing MSM news. Don't waste the money running it on Fox/Newsmax/etc - strictly run it on the legacy MSM. I don't think they would dare deny selling the tv spots, with today's DOJ microscope and the fear of more bias-based lawsuits.

Go ahead and get 'er going, NOW.
Seems weird that they're not running ads.
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Leftists hate what they can't control.

They certainly can't control Trump. In fact, every attempt at controlling him has ended up strengthening him and it enrages them to the point of irrationality. So even the clearly good things he does, they automatically oppose.

Deporting dangerous gangbanger illegals is now considered bad by Democrats because Trump is doing it. It's amazing to see how entrapped and unthinking leftists have become within their own warped ideology.
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TA-OP said:

As a resident far left heathen, I do not defend any MS. 13 member. I do defend due process as guaranteed in our Constitution for all persons on our soil. I realize the rightist view is the Constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens, but words matter I am of the opinion, and the courts have generally accepted, that "people" and "persons" apply almost universally. SCOTUS goes further than I would when giving corporations personhood. Even further, a critical point in the abortion debate is when is a fetus a person? That's not for me to derail here. However, if you use the logic that the Constitution only applies to citizens, then not corporations and unborn children have no rights because citizen is gained on birth.


They have rights. The right to have the VISAs revoked at any given time for any given reason.
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TA-OP said:

As a resident far left heathen, I do not defend any MS. 13 member. I do defend due process as guaranteed in our Constitution for all persons on our soil. I realize the rightist view is the Constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens, but words matter I am of the opinion, and the courts have generally accepted, that "people" and "persons" apply almost universally. SCOTUS goes further than I would when giving corporations personhood. Even further, a critical point in the abortion debate is when is a fetus a person? That's not for me to derail here. However, if you use the logic that the Constitution only applies to citizens, then not corporations and unborn children have no rights because citizen is gained on birth.


Illegals are not entitled to due process under our laws and visas can be revoked at any time and they both can be deported, at any time… neither one of these people or citizens of our country.

There is no problem without any of this played out. The fact that so many of you keep getting upset over it is pretty gross.

All the thousands of violent people that Trump has gotten out of our country in the last three months and it's these two pieces of **** that people are having a problem with.
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2000AgPhD said:

Because if they can get a POS like Abrego-Garcia back, that will pretty much kill off Trump's deportation plans and allow all 12-15 million illegals to remain in-country and eventually vote Democrat when the Dems push amnesty through under a D-controlled Congress and WH. "How can you deport this poor Guatemalan laborer when even Kilmar was allowed to stay?"



It's quite simple. Old school dems allowed progressives to infect, corrupt and takeover their party and blindly vote D without seeing what their party has become. Progressives are fueled by hate, envy, and greed. They are morally bankrupt and only wish to destroy what is good. They march for terrorists murdering, burning and raping unarmed civilians on Oct. 7th. They march for the murder of the unborn. They march for the genital mutilation of children. They march for throwing veterans out of housing so the illegals they allowed in can live there. They march to demand rights and benefits, paid by working Americans, for illegals while actual citizens live on the streets. They hate Christians because progs live a soulless existence. In conclusion, the modern day democrats only want to attack everything that is good and hate everything about their country and want to destroy it. Progressives are the useful idiots of satan and they should be mindful that the Christian conservatives' faith keeps us restrained.
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Dem approval rating 21%.

They are determined to get that to single digits.
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So.....TDS.....
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They don't stand for anything except opposing Trump. Spoiled brats.
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Gang member or not there is the whole defying the Supreme Court thing that has people worried about what's next
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2000AgPhD said:

Because if they can get a POS like Abrego-Garcia back, that will pretty much kill off Trump's deportation plans and allow all 12-15 million illegals to remain in-country and eventually vote Democrat when the Dems push amnesty through under a D-controlled Congress and WH. "How can you deport this poor Guatemalan laborer when even Kilmar was allowed to stay?"


55% of the Democrat party sees SOME justification in murdering Trump and Musk.

I'm pretty sure they would have very little issue with murdering any Republican, or basically anyone they don't agree with. Your post is very good.

The Dems would actively support Charlie Manson if they thought it hurt Trump and anyone who supports him.

So yes, stopping Garcia is the ultimate goal. If that's their goal, then we need to change the constitution to allow us to tax the Dems 50% more than everyone else to pay for their support of our new 20 million, along with the 100k, or so, criminals still here. No one supports child mutilation and rape like Democrats.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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aggieforester05 said:

Orange Man Bad

They reflexively oppose anything Trump does or anything that's good and wholesome for that matter. They are brainwashed idiots that don't know any better because they live under the biggest propaganda bubble the world has ever seen.
This. They did not even stand to applaud a 13 year old fighting brain cancer because it was Trump honoring him.

If Satan were to come to the Democrats and state that he opposes Trump, they would applaud him.

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APHIS AG said:

aggieforester05 said:

Orange Man Bad

They reflexively oppose anything Trump does or anything that's good and wholesome for that matter. They are brainwashed idiots that don't know any better because they live under the biggest propaganda bubble the world has ever seen.
This. They did not even stand to applaud a 13 year old fighting brain cancer because it was Trump honoring him.

If Satan were to come to the Democrats and state that he opposes Trump, they would applaud him.




Well, considering the fact that the democrats are demonic to the core, they would applaud Satan no matter what he said.
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If Satan were to come to the Democrats and state that he opposes Trump, they would applaud him.
What makes you think he hasn't?
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So….if we went to Canada or Mexico or England or Singapore and claimed asylum, we could stay there almost indefinitely while receiving free housing, medical care, education, phones and legal representation without any basis for our claim other than saying we're afraid to live here? And be treated like one of their citizens until the court determines otherwise?

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The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
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