Trump has decided on price controls for Big Pharma

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Logos Stick
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I can't wait to see the left defend Big Pharma.

I'm opposed to price controls, but I want something done about **** countries like Canada getting cheap drugs funded by US citizens.


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80/20 propositions are the best, can't wait to see idiots contort themselves to defend big pharma.
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I think we would all love to see the outrageous healthcare prizes come down, but I' won't hold my breath waiting for this to actually happen
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Entresto is one of the most prescribed heart medications, and consists of a a combination of two established drugs. Cost is $846.63 per month. There is no generic to compete with it.
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VaultingChemist said:

Entresto is one of the most prescribed heart medications, and consists of a a combination of two established drugs. Cost is $846.63 per month. There is no generic to compete with it.


And I bet Canada gets it for $8 per month.
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We pay premium prices on medications because big pharma says we can. This allows them to sell to other countries at reduced prices because they can't. Leveling that field is not a bad thing.
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fullback44 said:

I think we would all love to see the outrageous healthcare prizes come down, but I' won't hold my breath waiting for this to actually happen


I hear ya here. But big pharma is become increasingly infuriating to me across the board. The more I listen to "independent media" /podcasts /whatever on health it's just outrageous. If you did a class in business school on the web of big pharma infrastructure and expenditures it would mirror a crime syndicate (I know I'm saying what majority already know).

Largest single action that could be done imho is prevent them from TV ads. Why is it only here that it's allowed? That one change makes a good dent to start the movement towards what needs to be done with this AIDS of an industry
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I'm all for reducing America's dependency on drugs.
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Logos Stick said:

VaultingChemist said:

Entresto is one of the most prescribed heart medications, and consists of a a combination of two established drugs. Cost is $846.63 per month. There is no generic to compete with it.


And I bet Canada gets it for $8 per month.


Not that cheap, but cheaper than US.


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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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Wow Trump is turning into a socialist commie. I wonder how MAGA is going to conform itself to being for free market capitalism yet rooting for socialist polices like this.
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Big pharma wants to treat you, not cure you
flown-the-coop
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Dems will say that this will put thousands of good union pharmaceutical jobs at risk.

That it's reckless of Trump and will lead to stagnation in development of new drugs, most of which would benefit the least fortunate, most vulnerable amongst us.
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KillerAg21 said:

Wow Trump is turning into a socialist commie. I wonder how MAGA is going to conform itself to being for free market capitalism yet rooting for socialist polices like this.


Asking to pay the same price as everyone else is capitalist, not socialist.
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KillerAg21 said:

Wow Trump is turning into a socialist commie. I wonder how MAGA is going to conform itself to being for free market capitalism yet rooting for socialist polices like this.
Hard for me, but I've become so anti Big Harma I have an eff em mentality.
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FWIW...

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
KillerAg21
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It by definition is not free market capitalism. Having the government tell the free market how it can sell its products and for how much is inherently a left policy.
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I'm with you. The fact that United Healthcare and the like are cheating people out of the things they need is criminal. Especially when it comes to life saving medication.
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KillerAg21 said:

It by definition is not free market capitalism. Having the government tell the free market how it can sell its products and for how much is inherently a left policy.
What's your solution?
KillerAg21
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Socialist polices. I think this is a great step in the correct direction. I just think it's funny that yall don't realize it is socialist. Now I just have to get yall to agree to Universal Healthcare and we will be peas in a pod.
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KillerAg21 said:

It by definition is not free market capitalism. Having the government tell the free market how it can sell its products and for how much is inherently a left policy.


Requiring drug companies to offer the same pricing to Americans it offers to the rest of the world a left policy? Are you kidding?

The US government is a yuge purchaser of prescription drugs. It is a customer demanding FAIR and COMPETITIVE pricing.
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KillerAg21 said:

It by definition is not free market capitalism. Having the government tell the free market how it can sell its products and for how much is inherently a left policy.


But the government also regulates what they can sell, who they can sell it to, and if it can even come to the market.
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KillerAg21 said:

I'm with you. The fact that United Healthcare and the like are cheating people out of the things they need is criminal. Especially when it comes to life saving medication.


If there weren't the potential of billions in return there'd be no life saving medication.
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***sigh***

more liberalism



get govt out of the way, not more in the way, which is what distorts the market in the first place.
flown-the-coop
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To be fair, the volume resulting from good life saving medication is usually enough without unfair pricing that takes advantage of piss poor American policies.

Trump is simply resetting the playing field here.
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flown-the-coop said:

KillerAg21 said:

It by definition is not free market capitalism. Having the government tell the free market how it can sell its products and for how much is inherently a left policy.


Requiring drug companies to offer the same pricing to Americans it offers to the rest of the world a left policy? Are you kidding?

The US government is a yuge purchaser of prescription drugs. It is a customer demanding FAIR and COMPETITIVE pricing.


In a free market they take their business elsewhere and use their buying power to their advantage.

Not use the force of the government to mandate pricing. That is socialism.
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BigRobSA said:

***sigh***

more liberalism



get govt out of the way, not more in the way, which is what distorts the market in the first place.
How did government distort the pharmaceutical companies into formulating their current global price structure?
BigRobSA
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Tom Fox said:

flown-the-coop said:

KillerAg21 said:

It by definition is not free market capitalism. Having the government tell the free market how it can sell its products and for how much is inherently a left policy.


Requiring drug companies to offer the same pricing to Americans it offers to the rest of the world a left policy? Are you kidding?

The US government is a yuge purchaser of prescription drugs. It is a customer demanding FAIR and COMPETITIVE pricing.


In a free market they take their business elsewhere and use their buying power to their advantage.

Not use the force of the government to mandate pricing. That is socialism.
And we'll see his sycophants (as we already have) try and tell us this is a GOOD socialism. This time....it will work.
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Tom Fox said:

flown-the-coop said:

KillerAg21 said:

It by definition is not free market capitalism. Having the government tell the free market how it can sell its products and for how much is inherently a left policy.


Requiring drug companies to offer the same pricing to Americans it offers to the rest of the world a left policy? Are you kidding?

The US government is a yuge purchaser of prescription drugs. It is a customer demanding FAIR and COMPETITIVE pricing.


In a free market they take their business elsewhere and use their buying power to their advantage.

Not use the force of the government to mandate pricing. That is socialism.


I think that is sort of the threat he is making here.

Nothing makes big pharma sell to Medicare / Medicaid and the like. They can withdraw their drugs. Let them.

Or they can give us the price they give everyone else.

This is the antithesis of socialism.
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KillerAg21 said:

Socialist polices. I think this is a great step in the correct direction. I just think it's funny that yall don't realize it is socialist. Now I just have to get yall to agree to Universal Healthcare and we will be peas in a pod.
Government run healthcare is the worst. Have you forgotten all the horror stories from the VA over the last 50 years? That's government run healthcare. That's what you want? No thanks.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

BigRobSA said:

***sigh***

more liberalism



get govt out of the way, not more in the way, which is what distorts the market in the first place.
How did government distort the pharmaceutical companies into formulating their current global price structure?


It didn't but a private business is free to price however they desire. Americans don't have to buy.
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How much is it the insurance companies fault. On one of my meds, a 30 day supply is $150, but if I order a 90 day supply it is still $150. That's not the pharmaceutical fault.
BigRobSA
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Funky Winkerbean said:

BigRobSA said:

***sigh***

more liberalism



get govt out of the way, not more in the way, which is what distorts the market in the first place.
How did government distort the pharmaceutical companies into formulating their current global price structure?
In a lot of countries, the liberal morons there have done what.....PRICE CONTROLS.....and, guess what.....those countries don't make **** for new meds.

And our govt has made things worse here via medicare and other market interference.

SO, no, liberalism isn't the answer....yet again.
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rocky the dog said:

FWIW...




Check how much drug companies gave to Trump's inauguration parties. It was not a small sum.
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I have no opinion on this at the moment because I don't have enough information. But as someone who financially supports a family member who is on over a dozen pretty expensive prescriptions, I'm intrigued to see how this plays out.
 
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