James Comey 86 47

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Iced-T14
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Can we subtract this from the 10,000,000,000 we're going to owe Trump?
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[URL=https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/8647-merch-james-comey-indicted-rcna342943[/url]

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"8647 is not a true threat to the president. '86' means to kick someone out, not kill them," former federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani said. "It's possible others get prosecuted, but no judge in the country will find that someone acted intentionally or that they willfully intended to communicate a threat to the president based on 86 alone."


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"I think the case will be dismissed and this will be another embarrassing loss for federal prosecutors," Rahmani added.


An independent candidate running for office in Florida had this to say about the Comey case:

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Arrest us all. I dare you," said Davis, an Air Force veteran who wears his 8647 hat proudly around his predominantly conservative neighborhood. "I am done staying quiet. I've got a family, I've got kids, and I'm watching this country get dragged through chaos while people are going to sit down and shut up. And I am not doing that, and millions of other people aren't doing it, either."
If a majority of Americans see this as another unlawful vindictive prosecution by Trump and his DOJ appointees, this case will add to the electoral headwinds Rs are facing in November. The coming court hearings will have the entire news world watching to see if Blanche's DOJ team has any actual evidence.
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If I post "6304" somewhere am I in danger of getting picked up?

Maybe in Navahoe Indian language it means "blow up the country"

I am scared now.
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How does it feel?
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You expect folks who think that way to be self aware? It's simply Trump is a fascist and wants to arrest people for free speech.
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flown-the-coop said:

You expect folks who think that way to be self aware? It's simply Trump is a fascist and wants to arrest people for free speech.

Yep. I hope Comey and his water carriers enjoy.
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infinity ag said:

If I post "6304" somewhere am I in danger of getting picked up?

Maybe in Navahoe Indian language it means "blow up the country"

I am scared now.


Stay off the peyote.

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infinity ag said:

If I post "6304" somewhere am I in danger of getting picked up?

Maybe in Navahoe Indian language it means "blow up the country"

I am scared now.

38008

But you have to turn your pager upside down.
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Plenty of religious exemptions for peyote. According to things I have heard.
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flown-the-coop said:

Plenty of religious exemptions for peyote. According to things I have heard.

Unless you black hair with a feather in it, I would not suggest trying that defense. Also, be prepared to do a lot of vomiting.
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flown-the-coop
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Here I thought you were a lawyer and not a medicine woman. Or are you both?
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The answer to Rogan is they have something on him other than seashells.
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flown-the-coop said:

Here I thought you were a lawyer and not a medicine woman. Or are you both?

Read a lot of Carlos Castaneda when I was in college. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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I wouldn't hold your breath.
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flown-the-coop said:

HTownAg98 said:

Eugene Volokh has some thoughts, along with additional case cites not posted here yet.
https://reason.com/volokh/2026/04/28/analyzing-indictment-of-james-comey-for-86-47-post/

Who is Volokh and what were the thoughts?

He's a conservative/libertarian law professor who thinks the indictment is unjustified. It's a four minute read. Pour a drink or light one up and give it a read. It's a sub-4-minute read.
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Good estimate, took about 3 or so mins.

But he's not revealing anything of particular note. He is laying out Comeys defense or rationale for a motion to dismiss, but without the evidence the DOJ has its impossible for him to arrive at his conclusions.

As discussed at the start of the thread, just the seashells by the seashore shan't be sufficient. Rather there needs to be more to show that the various elements are met.

To be honest, homeboy wasted his time and mine citing cases that are relevant to the defense but dismissive of any evidence yet to be provided.
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To be honest, homeboy wasted his time and mine citing cases that are relevant to the defense but dismissive of any evidence yet to be provided.

Why I don't read him much anymore, if at all. Jacobsen at Legal Insurrection is more evenhanded in presenting both sides of potential arguments.

People screaming First Amendment! Are doing a thumbnail surface scratch.

Which is another reason why I found the argument between Shipwrecked and Andy McCarthy, with Branca weighing in, more interesting. Pretrial dismissal? Or not possible for such a dismissal in that Circuit?

Guess we'll see.
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Interestingly, ship has now moved from " not possible" to "not likely" on dismissal. You have to subscribe, so can't read it.

Side note, you will love this gutting of Weissman


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This is a passage taken from the Supreme Court's opinion in Arthur Andersen, commenting on the legal theory pressed by Weissmann as reflected in the jury instructions he persuaded the trial judge to use:
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The instructions also were infirm for another reason. They led the jury to believe that it did not have to find any nexus between the "persua[sion]" to destroy documents and any particular proceeding…. [T]he Government relies heavily on 1512(e)(1), which states that an official proceeding "need not be pending or about to be instituted at the time of the offense." It is, however, one thing to say that a proceeding "need not be pending or about to be instituted at the time of the offense," and quite another to say a proceeding need not even be foreseen. A "knowingly … corrup[t] persaude[r]" cannot be someone who persuades others to shred documents under a document retention policy when he does not have in contemplation any particular official proceeding in which those documents might be material.

Weissmann pressed the theory that a criminal conviction for document destruction could stand even when the entity engaging in the destruction had not been subpoenaed and no actual investigation had yet been started.

Judge allowing that instruction under a spoiliation of evidence allowing a jury inference against the defendant was blatantly incorrect when it is a standard procedure for a corp record keeping for years and not required otherwise to maintain them?

Judge didn't know his evidence nor jury instruction rules.
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Welker was not having any of it. She also asked him to produce the evidence on her show, then said just produce one thing and acted like he could do so with an active prosecution.

Then she had legal expert and constitutional scholar Adam Schiff on to explain how this is lawfare and unconstitutional and a disgrace on the Department of Justice that he was once so proud of.
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PJYoung said:




Dangerous precedent was set with the fake Russian collusion, jailing of people associated with Trump, fake rape charges, and ridiculous banking charges in New York.
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Joe Rogan has smoked his brains out. **** him.
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Adam Schiff is an expert on bull*****
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Adam Schiff is definitely an expert on lawfare. Practicing it, that is
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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5859963-justice-department-evidence-comey-case/
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It’s never too late
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welcome back seito
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

PJYoung said:




Dangerous precedent was set with the fake Russian collusion, jailing of people associated with Trump, fake rape charges, and ridiculous banking charges in New York.


No one is going to jail because Trump decided to protect his billionaire pedo friends. It's the art of the deal. He offers them freedom and they pay for his ballroom and library, campaigns he needs to win, etc. in his mind he can't change the past, but he can profit in the future.

Answer the question " why haven't all of the Epstein files been released - which is required by law" and it's easy to understand why the pedos aren't being prosecuted.
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You guys throw that word around like that kind of human debris isn't your voting base. Go sit by the trashcan and think about what you said.
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Rocky Rider said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

PJYoung said:




Dangerous precedent was set with the fake Russian collusion, jailing of people associated with Trump, fake rape charges, and ridiculous banking charges in New York.


No one is going to jail because Trump decided to protect his billionaire pedo friends. It's the art of the deal. He offers them freedom and they pay for his ballroom and library, campaigns he needs to win, etc. in his mind he can't change the past, but he can profit in the future.

Answer the question " why haven't all of the Epstein files been released - which is required by law" and it's easy to understand why the pedos aren't being prosecuted.

Which pedos does your lib newsletter say are being protected?
Which files does your lib newsletter say haven't been released?

You should get your money back, at least for this issue.
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Science Denier said:

Rocky Rider said:

VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

PJYoung said:




Dangerous precedent was set with the fake Russian collusion, jailing of people associated with Trump, fake rape charges, and ridiculous banking charges in New York.


No one is going to jail because Trump decided to protect his billionaire pedo friends. It's the art of the deal. He offers them freedom and they pay for his ballroom and library, campaigns he needs to win, etc. in his mind he can't change the past, but he can profit in the future.

Answer the question " why haven't all of the Epstein files been released - which is required by law" and it's easy to understand why the pedos aren't being prosecuted.

Which pedos does your lib newsletter say are being protected?
Which files does your lib newsletter say haven't been released?

You should get your money back, at least for this issue.


My lib news letter? Research my posts on this forum if you'd like. I voted for Trump 3x and never voted for a dim. I don't wear blinders. I don't assume that just because Trump is a better choice than Kamala that he walks on water. Even Christ rebuked his own team when they were out of line ("get behind me Satan").

Don't be blinded by a favorable bias towards a politician. They will disappoint you if you do. .
 
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