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flown-the-coop said:

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I think your obsession is sad, frankly bizarre. But it doesn't upset me. But as any lib does, you cannot help but project your feelings on others.

Enjoy your files.

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what opinion do you think I hold that makes me a "liberal"?

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Blue diamonds and quotes ETFan but not a lib? Somethings not adding up there.

You guys have fun reading your tabloid fodder tomorrow. Just cut the **** about giving a damn about the victims.

Cause for you guys, its just about Trump. Always has been. Why is it so hard to admit?

flown-the-coop said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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I think your obsession is sad, frankly bizarre. But it doesn't upset me. But as any lib does, you cannot help but project your feelings on others.

Enjoy your files.

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what opinion do you think I hold that makes me a "liberal"?

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Blue diamonds and quotes ETFan but not a lib? Somethings not adding up there.

You guys have fun reading your tabloid fodder tomorrow. Just cut the **** about giving a damn about the victims.

Cause for you guys, its just about Trump. Always has been. Why is it so hard to admit?

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"you agree with one post therefore you agree with every opinion of another poster"

If a lib said drinking water is good, would you quit hydrating?

flown-the-coop said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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I think your obsession is sad, frankly bizarre. But it doesn't upset me. But as any lib does, you cannot help but project your feelings on others.

Enjoy your files.

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what opinion do you think I hold that makes me a "liberal"?

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Blue diamonds and quotes ETFan but not a lib? Somethings not adding up there.

You guys have fun reading your tabloid fodder tomorrow. Just cut the **** about giving a damn about the victims.

Cause for you guys, its just about Trump. Always has been. Why is it so hard to admit?

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Not just about Trump. It's about all the pedophiles and scum involved in that mess. And really not even directly. If information is being withheld for others then they need to be punished also. It's called do what's right. Nothing to do with being MAGA or TDS or anything. It's about justice for the victims.

Its not about only trump. If you think that its only about trump, then youre missing almost everything

This is about our State protecting rich pedos. Its about ill behavior by our security services and potentially our allies.

Its about the victims and justice for them. Its about trumps promises.

thinking this is only about "get trump"," especially from Republicans is odd

flown-the-coop said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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I think your obsession is sad, frankly bizarre. But it doesn't upset me. But as any lib does, you cannot help but project your feelings on others.

Enjoy your files.

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what opinion do you think I hold that makes me a "liberal"?

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Blue diamonds and quotes ETFan but not a lib? Somethings not adding up there.

You guys have fun reading your tabloid fodder tomorrow. Just cut the **** about giving a damn about the victims.

Cause for you guys, its just about Trump. Always has been. Why is it so hard to admit?

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"you agree with one post therefore you agree with every opinion of another poster"

If a lib said drinking water is good, would you quit hydrating?

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I certainly would have the water tested.

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I legit lol'd, serious.

Edit: oh! Someone already posted the massie video

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Its not about only trump. If you think that its only about trump, then youre missing almost everything

This is about our State protecting rich pedos. Its about ill behavior by our security services and potentially our allies.

Its about the victims and justice for them. Its about trumps promises.

thinking this is only about "get trump"," especially from Republicans is odd

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It was an (almost) genius attempt by Trump to get his lap dogs (there are several on this thread and hundreds of thousands around the Country) riled up into Team Red vs. Team Blue to start dismissing Epstein entirely just because he said so. It almost worked.

He said something along the lines of "if you still care about Epstein you aren't MAGA."
That was his line in the sand, and his patsies didn't want to miss the boat.

Pitiful world we find ourselves in currently.

Who?mikejones! said:

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Its not about only trump. If you think that its only about trump, then youre missing almost everything

This is about our State protecting rich pedos. Its about ill behavior by our security services and potentially our allies.

Its about the victims and justice for them. Its about trumps promises.

thinking this is only about "get trump"," especially from Republicans is odd

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If people care about justice for the victims and not about Trump they would not have lined up 81 million deep to vote for the pedo in chief who showered with his daughter, bankrolled his son's sex trafficking, and condoned his son banging his underage granddaughter.

And I know its also not about the victims because people show essentially zero interest in the tens of thousands of missing children from the Biden administration and the millions of women, including many underage, who were abused, trafficked, raped and killed during the Biden open borders saga.

So hen folks look past all that to post page after page of "updates" about how Trump somehow blocked the release of files, then saying it's not about Trump just doesn't ring true.

Does the state protect rich pedos? Not overtly. But rich people have connections and… money. Money means influence, more connections, and high powered attorneys who are also connected.

Any allegation of involvement of "security services" being the reason files are not released is tenuous at best and like noise / nonsense.

No, I think it's pretty fair to say that if Trump was not involved then no one would be clamoring for this. In fact, any coverage of this and release of files is the direct result of Trump, not in spite of.

If you think this is about anything other than Trump, then you are falling for a false narrative.

Keep watching. When nothing damning comes out pointing at Trump, see how fast those seeking nothing but justice fade away or simply jump to the next Trump attack plan.

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Its not about only trump. If you think that its only about trump, then youre missing almost everything

This is about our State protecting rich pedos. Its about ill behavior by our security services and potentially our allies.

Its about the victims and justice for them. Its about trumps promises.

thinking this is only about "get trump"," especially from Republicans is odd

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It was an (almost) genius attempt by Trump to get his lap dogs (there are several on this thread and hundreds of thousands around the Country) riled up into Team Red vs. Team Blue to start dismissing Epstein entirely just because he said so. It almost worked.

He said something along the lines of "if you still care about Epstein you aren't MAGA."
That was his line in the sand, and his patsies didn't want to miss the boat.

Pitiful world we find ourselves in currently.

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God what a pitiful take. No one has said "if you care about Epstein you aren't MAGA." Can you point to your daily posting the last 15 years regarding Epstein? I mean, if it was that important to you and all for justice for the victims.

Instead, the only reason anyone may see accountability is because Trump made it an issue.

Lap dogs, patsies… conspiracy nuts and tabloiders.

Just quit disrespecting the actual victims by pretending to actually care.

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Its not about only trump. If you think that its only about trump, then youre missing almost everything

This is about our State protecting rich pedos. Its about ill behavior by our security services and potentially our allies.

Its about the victims and justice for them. Its about trumps promises.

thinking this is only about "get trump"," especially from Republicans is odd

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If people care about justice for the victims and not about Trump they would not have lined up 81 million deep to vote for the pedo in chief who showered with his daughter, bankrolled his son's sex trafficking, and condoned his son banging his underage granddaughter.

And I know its also not about the victims because people show essentially zero interest in the tens of thousands of missing children from the Biden administration and the millions of women, including many underage, who were abused, trafficked, raped and killed during the Biden open borders saga.

So hen folks look past all that to post page after page of "updates" about how Trump somehow blocked the release of files, then saying it's not about Trump just doesn't ring true.

Does the state protect rich pedos? Not overtly. But rich people have connections and… money. Money means influence, more connections, and high powered attorneys who are also connected.

Any allegation of involvement of "security services" being the reason files are not released is tenuous at best and like noise / nonsense.

No, I think it's pretty fair to say that if Trump was not involved then no one would be clamoring for this. In fact, any coverage of this and release of files is the direct result of Trump, not in spite of.

If you think this is about anything other than Trump, then you are falling for a false narrative.

Keep watching. When nothing damning comes out pointing at Trump, see how fast those seeking nothing but justice fade away or simply jump to the next Trump attack plan.

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100%.

The whole thing is just a massive red herring, They just want to keep TDS at a fevor pitch, that is all. Thus the lying and redacted photos, and on and on. It is nothing but a distraction. to divide, red meat in front of a bunch of rapid dogs, It is actually a psyop. Goebbels tactics.

It is he who said, "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep repeating it over and over again and people will believe it. "

He also said the media is a giant keyboard in the hands of the government that it can play and use to manipulate the masses.

Some of you really need to study up on 'social engineering' and how psyops work. Cause many here are getting absolutely snickered!

And once snickered, pride kicks in and as one said "It is easier to bambozzle someone, then debambozzle them."

The whole Epstein affair is a psyop, It is red meat to feed the TDS. While important things like getting election laws passed, and getting judges that are not anti white, USA citizen in place falls to way side.

This is psyop war and the normal US citizen is losing it, especially the white women.

Yall keep pretending this admin didn't tell the world they had the Epstien to release and even showed every one the "binders".

Then 180. No. Not releasing. Sorry guys, you're all fools! Said by the president. Full court press (still going) to stop the release.


MAGA "this is the left playing dirty."

Kinda like Biden building back better? Or Obama's Affordable care act?

They all say things …

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Kinda like Biden building back better? Or Obama's Affordable care act?

They all say things …

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Yes, politicians only say they'll do the right thing when they have an election to win.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Its not about only trump. If you think that its only about trump, then youre missing almost everything

This is about our State protecting rich pedos. Its about ill behavior by our security services and potentially our allies.

Its about the victims and justice for them. Its about trumps promises.

thinking this is only about "get trump"," especially from Republicans is odd

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If people care about justice for the victims and not about Trump they would not have lined up 81 million deep to vote for the pedo in chief who showered with his daughter, bankrolled his son's sex trafficking, and condoned his son banging his underage granddaughter.

And I know its also not about the victims because people show essentially zero interest in the tens of thousands of missing children from the Biden administration and the millions of women, including many underage, who were abused, trafficked, raped and killed during the Biden open borders saga.

So hen folks look past all that to post page after page of "updates" about how Trump somehow blocked the release of files, then saying it's not about Trump just doesn't ring true.

Does the state protect rich pedos? Not overtly. But rich people have connections and… money. Money means influence, more connections, and high powered attorneys who are also connected.

Any allegation of involvement of "security services" being the reason files are not released is tenuous at best and like noise / nonsense.

No, I think it's pretty fair to say that if Trump was not involved then no one would be clamoring for this. In fact, any coverage of this and release of files is the direct result of Trump, not in spite of.

If you think this is about anything other than Trump, then you are falling for a false narrative.

Keep watching. When nothing damning comes out pointing at Trump, see how fast those seeking nothing but justice fade away or simply jump to the next Trump attack plan.

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100%.

The whole thing is just a massive red herring, They just want to keep TDS at a fevor pitch, that is all. Thus the lying and redacted photos, and on and on. It is nothing but a distraction. to divide, red meat in front of a bunch of rapid dogs, It is actually a psyop. Goebbels tactics.

It is he who said, "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep repeating it over and over again and people will believe it. "

He also said the media is a giant keyboard in the hands of the government that it can play and use to manipulate the masses.

Some of you really need to study up on 'social engineering' and how psyops work. Cause many here are getting absolutely snickered!

And once snickered, pride kicks in and as one said "It is easier to bambozzle someone, then debambozzle them."

The whole Epstein affair is a psyop, It is red meat to feed the TDS. While important things like getting election laws passed, and getting judges that are not anti white, USA citizen in place falls to way side.

This is psyop war and the normal US citizen is losing it, especially the white women.

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Forcing the government to be transparent about an alleged group of pedophiles is a psyop now? Trump simply could have told his DOJ to release it all at the beginning of the year and then he cried hoax, he's the one who made this a distraction.

And it's funny you keep saying it's about justice then also say all this is about it being a campaign promise by Trump and he needs to deliver or else he is just a big orange pedo protector. Sort of undermines your "it's about justice" and "it's about the victims" argument.

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And it's funny you keep saying it's about justice then also say all this is about it being a campaign promise by Trump and he needs to deliver or else he is just a big orange pedo protector. Sort of undermines your "it's about justice" and "it's about the victims" argument.

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What do you think about the victims or about pedophiles?

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And it's funny you keep saying it's about justice then also say all this is about it being a campaign promise by Trump and he needs to deliver or else he is just a big orange pedo protector. Sort of undermines your "it's about justice" and "it's about the victims" argument.

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actually I keep saying its quite odd for the most transparent admin in history to try and rebuff the American people's demands for transparency regarding an alleged group of pedophiles. Do you think that is normal behavior for somebody who is supposedly committed to transparency?

Not sure what your question is. You want to know in general what I think about the victims and their attackers?

Let me be clear with you. If my brother ever showed his face around the family again the decision would be whether to kill him myself or tie him to an ant bed, kick the pile, then watch until the Marshall's could retrieve him.

For the victim I work constantly to try and keep her held together with love and support which can be rough particularly when she tried to take her own life several weeks ago.

You satisfied?

PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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And it's funny you keep saying it's about justice then also say all this is about it being a campaign promise by Trump and he needs to deliver or else he is just a big orange pedo protector. Sort of undermines your "it's about justice" and "it's about the victims" argument.

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actually I keep saying its quite odd for the most transparent admin in history to try and rebuff the American people's demands for transparency regarding an alleged group of pedophiles. Do you think that is normal behavior for somebody who is supposedly committed to transparency?

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So it's about Trump and not the victims? It's good you have made that clear this morning.

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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And it's funny you keep saying it's about justice then also say all this is about it being a campaign promise by Trump and he needs to deliver or else he is just a big orange pedo protector. Sort of undermines your "it's about justice" and "it's about the victims" argument.

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actually I keep saying its quite odd for the most transparent admin in history to try and rebuff the American people's demands for transparency regarding an alleged group of pedophiles. Do you think that is normal behavior for somebody who is supposedly committed to transparency?

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So it's about Trump and not the victims? It's good you have made that clear this morning.

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Only a fool would read the above statement and believe this is about Trump and not transparency. Trump stood in front of this and tried to block the transparency, of course he is going to get criticized for it. You're the only one here who thinks he hasn't fumbled this issue.

But I thought you said you wanted justice… you know, for the victims.

You and others seem to think this is about Trump and "transparency".

For those wanting more files, have you finished going through the close to 100,000 docs that Trump DOJ and Rs in congress have released? I know the Dems have as they are working harder than the DOJ to selectively redact thinks to mislead the public.

flown-the-coop said:

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But I thought you said you wanted justice… you know, for the victims.

You and others seem to think this is about Trump and "transparency".

For those wanting more files, have you finished going through the close to 100,000 docs that Trump DOJ and Rs in congress have released? I know the Dems have as they are working harder than the DOJ to selectively redact thinks to mislead the public.

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Do you think transparency and justice for the victims are mutually exclusive? I agree that the Dems are selectively releasing the files, that's why it is preferable to force the gov to release it all rather than what is politically convenient for both parties.

In these sorts of cases transparency and the justice process have to be considered together and balanced. Full transparency does not necessarily equal justice here.

But today is your big day. May want to save some energy to go through all the files that Massie and his friend Ro "forced" the Trump DOJ to release. Have at it.

flown-the-coop said:

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In these sorts of cases transparency and the justice process have to be considered together and balanced. Full transparency does not necessarily equal justice here.

But today is your big day. May want to save some energy to go through all the files that Massie and his friend Ro "forced" the Trump DOJ to release. Have at it.

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No thanks I'll just read about in the tabloids next week at the grocery store, that's where I get all my news.

I figured you sourced it from Reddit and BlueSky as well.

PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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But I thought you said you wanted justice… you know, for the victims.

You and others seem to think this is about Trump and "transparency".

For those wanting more files, have you finished going through the close to 100,000 docs that Trump DOJ and Rs in congress have released? I know the Dems have as they are working harder than the DOJ to selectively redact thinks to mislead the public.

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Do you think transparency and justice for the victims are mutually exclusive? I agree that the Dems are selectively releasing the files, that's why it is preferable to force the gov to release it all rather than what is politically convenient for both parties.

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Exactly.

There's nothing better than putting everything out there without any redactions save for victims information.

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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But I thought you said you wanted justice… you know, for the victims.

You and others seem to think this is about Trump and "transparency".

For those wanting more files, have you finished going through the close to 100,000 docs that Trump DOJ and Rs in congress have released? I know the Dems have as they are working harder than the DOJ to selectively redact thinks to mislead the public.

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Do you think transparency and justice for the victims are mutually exclusive? I agree that the Dems are selectively releasing the files, that's why it is preferable to force the gov to release it all rather than what is politically convenient for both parties.

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Exactly.

There's nothing better than putting everything out there without any redactions save for victims information.

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Yep, but if you criticize the party in power on an issue you automatically belong to the opposite power supposedly. Clown world

No Spin Ag said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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But I thought you said you wanted justice… you know, for the victims.

You and others seem to think this is about Trump and "transparency".

For those wanting more files, have you finished going through the close to 100,000 docs that Trump DOJ and Rs in congress have released? I know the Dems have as they are working harder than the DOJ to selectively redact thinks to mislead the public.

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Do you think transparency and justice for the victims are mutually exclusive? I agree that the Dems are selectively releasing the files, that's why it is preferable to force the gov to release it all rather than what is politically convenient for both parties.

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Exactly.

There's nothing better than putting everything out there without any redactions save for victims information.

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In America where I live, the accused has the constitutional right to confront their accuser. If you release the accusations then you must notify the accused so they can confront their accuser.

You kids are demanding trial in the court of MSM/DNC opinion where they have already shown they will redact, manipulate and fabricate to push a narrative.

Continuing to show it's not about the victims for you guys.

PaulsBunions said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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But I thought you said you wanted justice… you know, for the victims.

You and others seem to think this is about Trump and "transparency".

For those wanting more files, have you finished going through the close to 100,000 docs that Trump DOJ and Rs in congress have released? I know the Dems have as they are working harder than the DOJ to selectively redact thinks to mislead the public.

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Do you think transparency and justice for the victims are mutually exclusive? I agree that the Dems are selectively releasing the files, that's why it is preferable to force the gov to release it all rather than what is politically convenient for both parties.

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Exactly.

There's nothing better than putting everything out there without any redactions save for victims information.

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Yep, but if you criticize the party in power on an issue you automatically belong to the opposite power supposedly. Clown world

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Since some people like sports analogies, your position is the equivalent of being frustrated with Elko's game plan and deciding you will just dawn colors of the U and cheer for them until you agree with the play calling again.

It's weak, it's sad.

flown-the-coop said:

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In these sorts of cases transparency and the justice process have to be considered together and balanced. Full transparency does not necessarily equal justice here.

But today is your big day. May want to save some energy to go through all the files that Massie and his friend Ro "forced" the Trump DOJ to release. Have at it.

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That's pretty rich coming from someone who's repeatedly said "screw the process" when it doesn't fit your agenda.
But that doesn't mean I disagree with you here, because I think you're right in this instance.

Oh look. They won't be releasing all of the files today. In direct violation of the law congress passed almost unanimously. To the shock of no one.

But hey, continually standing in the way of the release is transparency, apparently.

And of course the transparency party was sent home so they don't have to hem and haw like coop to defend the ultra transparency.

I can make a distinction between grand jury ****nannery, bs legal technicalities a fundamental right to face your accuser.

But you knew that. Or should have.

I don't think I'm the one that is confused here, because the fundamental right to confront your accuser only applies once someone has been criminally charged. Whether names should be published or not comes down a moral and ethical decision.

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I don't think I'm the one that is confused here, because the fundamental right to confront your accuser only applies once someone has been criminally charged. Whether names should be published or not comes down a moral and ethical decision.

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If the DOJ is going to publish unconfirmed accusations, redacted information and unverified evidence where they leave the accused unreacted, you think that is consistent with the protections provided for in the 6th?

You again ignore the purpose of the protection in order to fit your desires.

Sorry, if the DOJ is the one publishing then it needs to be redacted both ways or not redacted at all.