Aggie4Christ09 said:

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That is all so so so bad.

How does anyone not want EVERYONE involved to have the maximum punishment?

A lot of posters came on here to trash Bill Clinton but still defend Trump.

If you persecute Clinton for his involvement, as you should, you HAVE to then persecute Trump at this point.

If you still can't do that, you might be brainwashed.

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I do and don't disagree, but how do we do that without everything falling apart? Our government on so many levels is complicit. Where do we start?

"Drain the swamp."

Right?

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Why are we talking about Trump and not the 10 other powerful co-conspirators that were never charged who Trump and the DOJ have been running cover for, and Biden before him?

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My 2 cents to your question:

Trump is being talked about because a big part of the posters carrying this thread only really care about this Epstein stuff in hopes they'll see Trump in handcuffs. I think that's also true with many of the people commenting on it on social media and in news media. Its all the usual Trump haters on this forum and their agenda on this is transparent. Get Trump, who cares about the rest. These dumps are affording them some circle jerk time and they come on here and get to call Trump a pedo, rapist, whatever based on what they see coming out on Twitter verified or not. They didn't care one iota about this the previous 4 years so in large part I've ignored those posters. You didn't see them reacting with as much fervor a few days ago when Clinton's name was being highlighted.

Others, like myself and you and a few others, want to see it all come out regardless. If Trump is swept up in it, so be it. I voted for him; and his team made bold claims to release all the info during the election so lets see where it all goes. Trump, Bondi and Patel and others have handled this about as bad as humanly possible. I'm more interested in the broader scheme Epstein was running with our gov't and who knows what other gov't rather than individuals anyway. I think if you get to the bottom of that (and I have serious doubts we will) than the individuals involved will get what's coming to them anyway.

Agree with your 2 cents and well put. I think the intelligence ties are overstated, less substantiated. But the rest is on point.

Contrary to what people may lament about my posts, I have no issue with Trump being held to account if he committed crimes. I would be surprised, but if that's what it is that is what it is.

So far, that has not been what this is.

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Agree with your 2 cents and well put. I think the intelligence ties are overstated, less substantiated. But the rest is on point.

Contrary to what people may lament about my posts, I have no issue with Trump being held to account if he committed crimes. I would be surprised, but if that's what it is that is what it is.

So far, that has not been what this is.

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I thought I was being respectful to you before...if I wasn't sorry about that.

But I don't know how you still think this way. Seems pretty damn clear.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Agree with your 2 cents and well put. I think the intelligence ties are overstated, less substantiated. But the rest is on point.

Contrary to what people may lament about my posts, I have no issue with Trump being held to account if he committed crimes. I would be surprised, but if that's what it is that is what it is.

So far, that has not been what this is.

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I thought I was being respectful to you before...if I wasn't sorry about that.

But I don't know how you still think this way. Seems pretty damn clear.

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I think it's possible, heck even probably, that Epstein was a useful pawn for intelligence agencies (CIA, domestic) given his connections and his "fringe" lifestyle. If he has folks like Clinton, Dersh, etc riding WITH him on a private jet and runs in those elite circles, then yes he probably is going to be sourced from time to time to see what he knows or to plant some information.

Do I think he was running some global Mossad cabal with arms dealings, Lolita honeypots, kompromat and the like? No. Epstein just does not come across as a competent intelligence agent / operative. Useful idiot seems more plausible.

When you start with "this may be difficult for you" then you intended the disrespect. Or certainly most will perceive the facetiousness that is apparent.

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People on this thread are way too consumed with the notion that posters are necessarily "defending" Trump. After EIGHT years of false accusations, media bias, and wild rumors, you're damn straight I am beyond just skeptical of anything leftists throw out there anymore.

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Agreed.

At some point, if actual proof does come out, people aren't going to believe it after all the "crying wolf" that's gone on.

Unless it has been proven by the latest release, I still do not think they have tied Clinton to Epstein Island.

The pic of the redacted girl on his lap with his hand nicely placed around her traveling to unknown location seems problematic though.

In that photo, they also blacked out the screen behind Bubba. Usually that shows a flight path. Makes me wander why that was redacted if that was what was shown.

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Aggie4Christ09 said:

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That is all so so so bad.

How does anyone not want EVERYONE involved to have the maximum punishment?

A lot of posters came on here to trash Bill Clinton but still defend Trump.

If you persecute Clinton for his involvement, as you should, you HAVE to then persecute Trump at this point.

If you still can't do that, you might be brainwashed.

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I want everyone involved to burn. But show me the PROOF. As of now, we know they weren't on good terms.

Stop continually calling people a cult, or Maga, or demanding everyone believe you or they're brainwashed. It's disingenuous at best....especially when you're talking to people who aren't fans of Trump's personality. Just have an honest grown-up discussion about the facts that come out.

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Ding ding ding

Whenever I pop in this thread I find many of your posts goal-tending for Trump rather than addressing the particular scandal and the general implications of it...just ribbing you a bit is all

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Whenever I pop in this thread I find many of your posts goal-tending for Trump rather than addressing the particular scandal and the general implications of it...just ribbing you a bit is all

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I see you continue your thinly veiled disrespect.

Where have I NOT addressed the particular scandal and general implications thereof?

Just like an MSM clown. Use terminology that does not apply in an effort to dismiss sides of an argument you dont like or disagree with.

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Whenever I pop in this thread I find many of your posts goal-tending for Trump rather than addressing the particular scandal and the general implications of it...just ribbing you a bit is all

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Even the doggone King of Great Britain used his jump to conclusions mat and realized something was up with his brother. He at least did something….

Time to shut this thread down. It's devolved into name calling.

techno-ag said:

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Time to shut this thread down. It's devolved into name calling.

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Some on here have lost their minds over Trump. Both ways lol.

techno-ag said:

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Time to shut this thread down. It's devolved into name calling.

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Name calling happens when people are unable to discuss the issues and facts.

If you offer reasonable analysis or take a position that runs counter to the townspeople with pitchforks and torches, you are in a cult willing to defend MAGA to the death.

If the TDS brigade would take a breath, look at the actual circumstance regards any of the "bombshells", they would be able to discuss the actual topic.

Instead they take a deathbed pen pal letter, known about for over two years, and follow it like gospel that it proves all on its own without anything else that Trump is a pedo / child rapists.

MODS please clean this thread up or nuke it.

Thanks

This thread needs to die…not because I want to protect Trump, it has just become a pissing match and name calling…at this point everyone will see what they want to see and hope they get Trump impeached…it is all just dumb now.

Alright folks, let's wrap it up. Memory hole this thread and ban anyone that brings up Epstein henceforth.

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This thread needs to die…not because I want to protect Trump, it has just become a pissing match and name calling…at this point everyone will see what they want to see and hope they get Trump impeached…it is all just dumb now.

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Eh, it's been fine as a consolidation of what DOJ has been slowly sending out given the sheer volume of documents that are going to be released. A couple posters don't seem to handle those releases very well when they mention trump and ends up derailing things for awhile before it gets back on track.

But overall it still seems like it could be a useful place to dump the info, so maybe it should be treated like the other threads that are limited to news and the implications vs the broader political back and forth (although that does seem somewhat impossible here)

The best Christmas gift staff could give is banning everyone from F16 until Friday.

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Aggie4Christ09 said:

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That is all so so so bad.

How does anyone not want EVERYONE involved to have the maximum punishment?

A lot of posters came on here to trash Bill Clinton but still defend Trump.

If you persecute Clinton for his involvement, as you should, you HAVE to then persecute Trump at this point.

If you still can't do that, you might be brainwashed.

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I do and don't disagree, but how do we do that without everything falling apart? Our government on so many levels is complicit. Where do we start?

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I guess a start would be cleaning house with everyone involved with Epstein and involved with covering up for anyone on the list. If that's everyone then it is what it is.

I'm skeptical of anything newly released that is negative about Trump. I can't think rationally. This crap would have already been used against him considering the anti Trump leadership of the intelligence agencies over the last 10years.

We are locking this down temporarily. When this thing gets unlocked, some users need to do better.

This is getting unlocked. All users need to stick to talking about the subject from their viewpoint. Personal attacks are out of bounds. If mods have to clear large swaths of posts we will give large swaths of users time off until the new year.

🚨 JUST IN: Federal agents have just uncovered "over a MILLION" more Epstein Files in the Southern District New York.

The DOJ says they are being reviewed for release under the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

"Due to the mass volume of material, this process may take a few more… pic.twitter.com/OQZfQML4RR

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) December 24, 2025

From how long ago, I wonder?

aggiehawg said:

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So yeah, that supposed letter from Epstein to Nassar has been confirmed as a fake. Just announced FNC.

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Fake? Who'd have thought

"…..The Department will continue to fully comply with federal law and President Trump's direction to release the files.""

Fully comply! Really? They are redacting, or attempting to redact, information the law said they can't conceal. This is a cluster beyond belief. These people are all corrupt.

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You sure do love you some Trump. Pedophilia? "No problem." Rape? "No problem." Sex crimes? "Don't you know that Hunter did coke?!"

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When was Trump convicted of pedophilia or where is the proof of these sex crimes? Seriously...post the actual proof, because I wont support a guy like that.

Hunter was an actual coke head, who took pictures with countless prostitutes and crack pipes. Literal hard drives full of videos and pictures of crime after crime. Joe Biden proudly bragged about Quid Pro Quo, to get his son absolved of his crimes and to get funds from his son's dealings, on his behalf.

The funny thing about comparing them, is that Hunter got off scott free, and people on the left covered for him..even inventing the Russia interference claim, that turned out to be completely untrue (like we all knew from the beginning).

But with Trump, we're still waiting on proof, but some have already convicted him in their minds...just because they desperately want him to be as bad as the guy they supported previously.

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Like this document straight from the Epstein Files stating Trump raped.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%208/EFTA00020517.pdf

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And it still is not proof of anything

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aggiehawg said:

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So yeah, that supposed letter from Epstein to Nassar has been confirmed as a fake. Just announced FNC.

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Fake? Who'd have thought

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The second I saw the word "fake", and especially in all caps, I knew who was behind the tweet. Not that that means it isn't fake, but it should give anyone pause. Of course, we all know there are some on this board who will... well, never mind...

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The second I saw the word "fake", and especially in all caps, I knew who was behind the tweet. Not that that means it isn't fake, but it should give anyone pause. Of course, we all know there are some on this board who will... well, never mind...

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It wasn't all that good of a fake either. Wrong postmark, no inmate number, dates messed up.

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The second I saw the word "fake", and especially in all caps, I knew who was behind the tweet. Not that that means it isn't fake, but it should give anyone pause. Of course, we all know there are some on this board who will... well, never mind...

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It wasn't all that good of a fake either. Wrong postmark, no inmate number, dates messed up.

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Very much reminds of Dan Rather's "evidence" against W back in the day.