Guy who thought it 'funny' to tow ICE vehicle...

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Except this isn't a murder so…
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AggieHammer2000 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Grand jury will decline to indict.

Exactly. Such a waste of tax payer money.

I'm glad you're happy that partisan grand juries won't indict a crime...

Perhaps when grand juries in red states start ignoring crimes and assaults on leftist protesters, you'll have the same feelings...

To save money, of course...
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cslifer said:

Except this isn't a murder so…

No.

It's a federal crime.

It's auto theft.

Guess you wouldn't mind being carjacked...
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flown-the-coop said:

Apollo79 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Grand jury will decline to indict.

who cares he has an arrest record and will jam him up ...good arrest

Joke passed over your head. See DC grand juries recently.

I am all for this guy getting the Ashli Babbit FAFO treatment. Goose gander and all that.



So on your world stealing law enforcement's vehicles is ok no big deal ?
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cslifer said:

Except this isn't a murder so…

Where is your car parked, I would like to take it for a spin.
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cslifer said:

They didn't emphasize situational awareness? This definitely falls under the whole be aware of your surroundings thing. I doubt any academy covers this exact situation, but I am pretty sure being aware of your surroundings and potential threats is gone over more than a little bit. If these guys didn't have the ability to notice a freaking tow truck hooking up to their car a few feet away from them I have a hard time feeling bad for them.

Those tow guys can hook up a car and tow it away in under 30 sec.

Repos can get them shot so they know to hurry...

They knew the ICE agents weren't going to draw on them because THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW...
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cslifer said:

They were 10-20 feet away. Again, zero situational awareness. So much for the whole "head on a swivel" and "be aware of any threats/potential threats". Maybe they missed those days in the academy.
You are most definitely (at least in state/local academies) taught to be aware of what is happening around you, the guys chose not to and were somehow surprised by the outcome.


Please detail to us your experience in law enforcement at the state or local level...
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BTW...

My favorite part of this thread is that the folks on the left keep doubling down on the 20 side of 80-20 issues...

They DO love them some criminals...

I hope they keep it up all the way through the 2026 election...
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Trump is on the 80 side so it's compulsory.
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Apollo79 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Apollo79 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Grand jury will decline to indict.

who cares he has an arrest record and will jam him up ...good arrest

Joke passed over your head. See DC grand juries recently.

I am all for this guy getting the Ashli Babbit FAFO treatment. Goose gander and all that.



So on your world stealing law enforcement's vehicles is ok no big deal ?


No. Is this Eric pulling my leg?

The DC grand juries no billed the sun thrower and two POTUS assassins. My reference was that this is in LA then probably same result.

My reference to Ashli Babbit is that the tow truck driver should take a shot to the neck w/o warning for this colossally dumb and very dangerous "stunt".
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FIDO_Ags said:

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I've been to FLETC with 2 different agencies. They do not train 1811s to secure against someone towing you GOV with its red and blues going.


I don't know what that is, but maybe they should start teaching it. Watching your 6 is just common sense.


Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. FLETC. In Glynco, GA. Where those agents were trained.
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Training LEO to keep an eye on his vehicle, marked with lights on, on the off chance a wayward tow truck driver decides to make a political statement is the equivalent of training someone then warning someone not to pick ip a lawnmower by the mowing deck to trim your hedges.

It should not be necessary to anticipate Mensa level dumbarsery, but here we are.
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Yeah lol libs are stupid but this narrative of "well that's what these guys get for not expecting this" is just pathetic and embarrassing. Even for a lib.

Keep going 20%ers!
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Only time I needed a tow truck for the shop, was when it died on the road. Stupid ford edge. Never had anyone just take off with a cop car unless you want to be a criminal. Have caught some local kids playing in the cop car when on foot pursuits. Kids love the wee woo lights.
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FIDO_Ags said:

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I've been to FLETC with 2 different agencies. They do not train 1811s to secure against someone towing you GOV with its red and blues going.


I don't know what that is, but maybe they should start teaching it. Watching your 6 is just common sense.



Hah. There's two of them now!
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20% is more than a handful of idiots, sadly.
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FIDO_Ags said:

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I've been to FLETC with 2 different agencies. They do not train 1811s to secure against someone towing you GOV with its red and blues going.


I don't know what that is, but maybe they should start teaching it. Watching your 6 is just common sense.

Taxes are just a yearly subscription to the country you live in.
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flown-the-coop said:

Apollo79 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Apollo79 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Grand jury will decline to indict.

who cares he has an arrest record and will jam him up ...good arrest

Joke passed over your head. See DC grand juries recently.

I am all for this guy getting the Ashli Babbit FAFO treatment. Goose gander and all that.



So on your world stealing law enforcement's vehicles is ok no big deal ?


No. Is this Eric pulling my leg?

The DC grand juries no billed the sun thrower and two POTUS assassins. My reference was that this is in LA then probably same result.

My reference to Ashli Babbit is that the tow truck driver should take a shot to the neck w/o warning for this colossally dumb and very dangerous "stunt".

so the same result so don't' bother? At the very least this idiot is the system now has to deal with this, you make really odd posts.
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Psycho Bunny said:

Only time I needed a tow truck for the shop, was when it died on the road. Stupid ford edge. Never had anyone just take off with a cop car unless you want to be a criminal. Have caught some local kids playing in the cop car when on foot pursuits. Kids love the wee woo lights.

Oh yeah...

When cops have to chase after criminals who are running, they should also have the situational awareness to prevent someone from coming up during the chase to tow the cop car...
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Ag with kids said:

Psycho Bunny said:

Only time I needed a tow truck for the shop, was when it died on the road. Stupid ford edge. Never had anyone just take off with a cop car unless you want to be a criminal. Have caught some local kids playing in the cop car when on foot pursuits. Kids love the wee woo lights.

Oh yeah...

When cops have to chase after criminals who are running, they should also have the situational awareness to prevent someone from coming up during the chase to tow the cop car...

I'll bring that up in the next safety meeting. Sgt loves stupid questions.
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Psycho Bunny said:

Ag with kids said:

Psycho Bunny said:

Only time I needed a tow truck for the shop, was when it died on the road. Stupid ford edge. Never had anyone just take off with a cop car unless you want to be a criminal. Have caught some local kids playing in the cop car when on foot pursuits. Kids love the wee woo lights.

Oh yeah...

When cops have to chase after criminals who are running, they should also have the situational awareness to prevent someone from coming up during the chase to tow the cop car...

I'll bring that up in the next safety meeting. Sgt loves stupid questions.

I would LOVE to be a fly in THAT room...
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cslifer said:

"Yours tears are delicious "?? Grow up.
What the guy did was dumb, and he deserves something to come out of it. We as taxpayers don't need to spend almost a half million dollars because multiple officers are so bad at officer safety that none of them noticed a freaking tow truck hooking up to their car. They created a situation that is going to be shown in police academies for years about what not to do, got embarrassed and overcharged. This is exactly like the sandwich guy.

Would have been easiest if they shot him in the process of the theft. Those tears would be glorious.
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Toe truck = mobile pedicure service


( ...voice punctuated with a clap of distant thunder... )
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cslifer said:

So we aren't worried about wasteful government spending anymore got it.
I'll wait for the whataboutism to begin…


Your trolling isn't going near as well as you think it is. All you're doing is mocking cops and posters. Then doubling down on it.
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Deport his ass to Nepal.
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ShaggySLC said:

cslifer said:

So we aren't worried about wasteful government spending anymore got it.
I'll wait for the whataboutism to begin…


Your trolling isn't going near as well as you think it is. All you're doing is mocking cops and posters. Then doubling down on it.

There is just no way that poster can be taken seriously. Best to ignore and move on. No different than when Old McDonald posts. They never answer for their drive-by delusions.
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He was found not guilty at trial.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/tow-truck-driver-acquitted-after-towing-ice-vehicle-during-downtown-l-a-arrest/amp/
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"their client moved it only one block away. They told jurors the SUV was returned within 13 minutes, according to the Los Angeles Times."

That's prosecutorial overreach. They should have gone for a lesser charge and got him the slap on the wrist he deserved rather than 10 years.
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javajaws said:

cslifer said:

Yep. According to BOP it cost roughly 40k/year to house an inmate. So called conservatives want to spend almost a half million dollars of our tax dollars because the guy pulled a funny yet obviously dumb stunt.

Enforcing pretty much any law costs money. And its done as a deterrent to prevent FUTURE crimes which lowers the overall cost to keep people civil.

According to you if it costs money to prevent crime we should just allow the crime instead? Yeah, no thanks - I'll pass on your liberal utopia.
or do it the lib way and send that money to Somalia except for the small 10% procurement fee.
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HTownAg98 said:

He was found not guilty at trial.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/tow-truck-driver-acquitted-after-towing-ice-vehicle-during-downtown-l-a-arrest/amp/
Two systems of justice in America. It's what happens when one side has no moral or ethical bounds.
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Or, instead of charging someone with theft when they towed an unmarked ICE vehicle that was blocking a driveway one block away, you charge them with obstruction.
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Jury of his peers.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

Jury of his peers.

The cruelst joke in all of American history, for it never is. Either the peers are about as opposite to the defendant as possible or they're just like them, but either way, the likelihood of honest justice is slim to none.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Aggrad08 said:

"their client moved it only one block away. They told jurors the SUV was returned within 13 minutes, according to the Los Angeles Times."

That's prosecutorial overreach. They should have gone for a lesser charge and got him the slap on the wrist he deserved rather than 10 years.


Don't know the details but it took the tow truck driver 13 minutes to traverse 1 block?


ETA: from link earlier in thread.
Lying lawyer and complicit judge and jury working hard.

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Bobby Nunez, 33, is charged with theft of government property. Nunez is expected to make his initial appearance this afternoon in United States District Court in Los Angeles.

According to an affidavit filed with the complaint, Nunez on August 15 interfered with federal law enforcement officers in downtown Los Angeles who were arresting Tatiana Mafla-Martinez, 23, an illegal alien from Colombia residing in downtown Los Angeles. The officers used two government law enforcement vehicles to box in Martinez's vehicle and prevent her from escaping. Both government vehicles had their emergency lights activated during this incident, which occurred at the exit of a luxury apartment complex's parking structure.

During the officers' struggle to arrest Martinez, Nunez approached Martinez's vehicle and began pressing the passenger side door of her vehicle on an officer, who then threatened Nunez with arrest. After being told the officers were conducting a federal investigation, Nunez swore at the officers and told them "Something was going to happen" to them.

A second man then approached Martinez's vehicle to interfere with the arrests. While officers addressed this man's interference, Nunez got into his Dodge tow truck and towed one of the government vehicles that was boxing in Martinez's vehicle. At the time of this interference, the government vehicle had its keys inside and a firearm locked in a safe inside it as well.

Two days later, law enforcement observed Nunez's tow truck parked in an assigned residential space at the same luxury apartment complex in downtown Los Angeles.



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LA traffic dontcha know
 
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