[US intends to strike targets] in Venezuela

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If were gonna hit venezuela narco operations than why aren't we hitting mexico narcs as well.

And as far as the O&G numbers somebody posted above, it sounds like we need to go back to big block V8s with 4 barrel carbs, while eliminating any green energy subsidies.
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Nicols Maduro is the president of Venezuela, since 2013 after the death of Hugo Chvez. A thug who has destroyed what was left of their economy and although Venezuela has more crude reserves than Saudi, they don't have the technology to extract without our help.

I hope Nicolas gets what is coming to him, he is evil and corrupt. He poisoned our young with his drugs and send thousands of criminals to our shores with the intent to harm us.

He is hated by his people and once Trump gives the order, expect a full revolution and his quick demise.
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Honing our drone capability for any China shenanigans offshore. Use Vzla cartels as target practice.

Bonus would be regime change and a couple Trump beach resorts.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

I didn't know it was an on going thing specifically by Venezuela. Which is why I asked. Thought maybe something was happening new to warrant the actions now vs a few months ago etc.


A few months ago, Trump was busy DOGE'ing the Deep State. The list to MAGA is long.
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RDV-1992 said:

I don't like this. Another war that we aren't required to fight. More treasure and blood for what?

IMO we should diplomatically wall them off and forget about them until the inevitable revolution, then back the best replacement candidate.

100k Americans dead from fentanyl and 2-3 million addicted to heroin sounds like a good reason to me
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I think we can make improvements there without a war, which is what I initially assumed was going to happen. I'll take a wait and see approach & hope that this is something limited or was one of trumps negotiating tactics.
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KerrAg76 said:

RDV-1992 said:

I don't like this. Another war that we aren't required to fight. More treasure and blood for what?

IMO we should diplomatically wall them off and forget about them until the inevitable revolution, then back the best replacement candidate.

100k Americans dead from fentanyl and 2-3 million addicted to heroin sounds like a good reason to me

I think this is part of blunting China's efforts to hurt us and move in on resource rich countries in central and south america. We have been making a lot of busts and focusing a lot of efforts on Chinese driven production of fentanyl and other drugs that are destroying our cities. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if these Vz cartels are working directly with China to manufacture their drugs and move them to the US. Wiping them out not only hurts Maduro, but it hurts China's efforts as well.
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I guess the Clear and Present Danger president was wrong. He could have openly suggested and done it.

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TAMUallen said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

What invasion/attaxks?


MS13 is active and actively supplying narcotics throughout the country using Biden era illegals.

But you knew that

Most of the cocaine coming from Colombia goes through the Pacific Ocean and Central America. The stuff going through the Caribbean is headed for Africa and Europe.
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Are they only producing coke, or are they also fabricating fentanyl as well?
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I believe this is intended to force them to admit what they did in the 2020 election.
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HTownAg98 said:

TAMUallen said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

What invasion/attaxks?


MS13 is active and actively supplying narcotics throughout the country using Biden era illegals.

But you knew that

Most of the cocaine coming from Colombia goes through the Pacific Ocean and Central America. The stuff going through the Caribbean is headed for Africa and Europe.

The last boat destroyed was in the Pacific
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I'm aware of that. But doesn't make a whole lot of sense to smuggle cocaine to Venezuela, then put it on a boat and take it through the Panama Canal, when you could just leave from the Colombian coastline. Plus, two of the survivors were returned to Colombia and Ecuador, respectively. So there's a high probability this boat came from either Colombia or Ecuador, and blowing up this boat doesn't make sense if your true mission is regime change in Venezuela. If you're just going after drug cartels, that makes more sense.
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All sorts of private jets are leaving Caracas.

So they know more about an airstrike than we do? Or they are US assets getting the eff out of there.
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HTownAg98 said:

I'm aware of that. But doesn't make a whole lot of sense to smuggle cocaine to Venezuela, then put it on a boat and take it through the Panama Canal, when you could just leave from the Colombian coastline. Plus, two of the survivors were returned to Colombia and Ecuador, respectively. So there's a high probability this boat came from either Colombia or Ecuador, and blowing up this boat doesn't make sense if your true mission is regime change in Venezuela. If you're just going after drug cartels, that makes more sense.

I think drugs are secondary in all this. The goal is to pressure the regimes to get China out and secure the hemisphere. Drugs are a tactic, not the strategy.
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Vepp said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

What's the objective and cause?




Pretty much part of every reason we've gotten involved in another countries business, be it in the Americas or ME.
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Manuro is the ultimate goal. Get rid of his ass, and Venezuela can return to some semblance of normalcy
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We are about to start hitting targets inside the land borders of Venezuela.

This is not about drugs, it is about rare Earth elements and who controls them in this hemisphere.

Venezuela and Columbia are geographically key to this operation. conveinently they also have cartels and smuggle drugs into the US.
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I haven't kept up with everything going on in Venezuela but is it the corruption, minerals, and drugs causing us to get involved?

I would rather we focus on countries like Venezuela and Mexico than those who we are separated by an ocean from.
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P.U.T.U said:

I haven't kept up with everything going on in Venezuela but is it the corruption, minerals, and drugs causing us to get involved?

I would rather we focus on countries like Venezuela and Mexico than those who we are separated by an ocean from.

I think it is as much about trying to deny China access to a resource rich nation in the Americas as anything else.
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txags92 said:

P.U.T.U said:

I haven't kept up with everything going on in Venezuela but is it the corruption, minerals, and drugs causing us to get involved?

I would rather we focus on countries like Venezuela and Mexico than those who we are separated by an ocean from.

I think it is as much about trying to deny China access to a resource rich nation in the Americas as anything else.

And while we are at it, American farmland should not be owned by foreign entities.
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Anything happen yet?
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AlexNguyen said:

txags92 said:

P.U.T.U said:

I haven't kept up with everything going on in Venezuela but is it the corruption, minerals, and drugs causing us to get involved?

I would rather we focus on countries like Venezuela and Mexico than those who we are separated by an ocean from.

I think it is as much about trying to deny China access to a resource rich nation in the Americas as anything else.

And while we are at it, American farmland should not be owned by foreign entities.


Or border property.
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F'em up.

This is our hemisphere and they have been causing myriad problems in our backyard for years.

Enough is enough.

We can depose him without a single set of boots on the ground.
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AlexNguyen said:

txags92 said:

P.U.T.U said:

I haven't kept up with everything going on in Venezuela but is it the corruption, minerals, and drugs causing us to get involved?

I would rather we focus on countries like Venezuela and Mexico than those who we are separated by an ocean from.

I think it is as much about trying to deny China access to a resource rich nation in the Americas as anything else.

And while we are at it, American farmland should not be owned by foreign entities.

NO American soil should be owned by foreign governments or entities.
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"we're just going to kill people who are bringing drugs into our country. we're going to kill them. they're going to be, like, dead."

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This is why people like Trump. He's unconventional but he gets stuff done. Another win for Trump, IMHO
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Venezuela starting to sabre rattle. Amusing, to say the least.

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Now they only have 79
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Are military experts underestimating Venezuela?

probably not.

...how committed are China and Russia to Venezuela?
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Rossticus said:

Venezuela starting to sabre rattle. Amusing, to say the least.



Huge miscalculation to potentially send their military out to defend a bunch of drug running boats. If you are with them, you are a target just like they are and the planes on one carrier would make quick work of those 24 SU-30s.
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Yup. 100%
 
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