I can tell you that what will happen is that large companies that want a "New York Office" will have a conference room, a few offices and a shared work space. Most of that will move to work from home. Connecticut, New Jersey, upstate or Long Island.

Yes there will be a lot of outflow to Florida, Texas, California and others, but maybe not as much. You'll also see a significant drop in small business after a few months. That will follow a drop in tourism. That'll have a long hard trail. It will need 8 months to a year to really bite. But by 2027 you'll see a huge issue, but you'll see a lot of funny business with falsified crime numbers.

If he wins, Trump should ensure Staten Island can self rule itself.

The rest of the city should be walled off and excluded from the outside world, with an inner wall around NYSE and helicopter pads so the market workers can still trade on the floor. At the same time, we should begin planning for the NYSE to be moved out of NYC and into a place like Covington Kentucky or Kansas City, MO.

Leave the dystopian hellhole behind.

I am TheEternalOptimist and I approve this message.

I am not saying he wins, I am actually praying that he wins. Why you might ask? Because this will be a real time, real world example of what happens when you elect left wing, Marxist's/communists to lead productive cities, states and countries. What happened on the West coast took too long for people to really see how screwed up a majority of those states are. It started with the hippies, moved to the environmental and racial activists, then the cultural and economic warriors took over and just continued the downward slide, but there is really no one to blame because it took 50 years to happen. This will not be a slow creep situation, this will be like plummeting off a 1000 foot cliff, and from this point forward the left will no longer be able to say this is just republican rhetoric or scaremongering, it will be all at the hands of democrats and republicans should just step out of the way, let the free fall happen, and try not get any of the splatter on them that will happen when it reaches the bottom of the cliff.

I wish my company would move just to get all of our remote workers out of paying New York state income tax. Huge scam.

Ag00Ag said:

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The issue isn't where all the money, financial institutions, businesses and industries flee to. The question is how long it will take for all the worthless, freeloading, leftest that will eventually follow the money to invade, ruin and destroy what ever new home the money goes to?

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This is the danger. The institutions/people that may move out went along with the stupidity that has been NYC for a century. We shouldn't be excited about locusts invading the rest of the country.

I can agree with the sentiment, but we've been flying to close to the sun with all of this socialist/communist/Marxist stuff for too long. You have majorities of certain age groups and demographics that openly support and agree with many of their policies. It's time to rip the band aid off and have one major hellhole vs many multiple little hellholes or near hellholes throughout the country that we can all learn from and see they effects of those policies in real time.

ETA: Just my limited opinion

The bigger financial interests in New York need to make him into fish food, never to be seen again. I assume they still have people there who can do such tasks.

AnScAggie said:

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I can agree with the sentiment, but we've been flying to close to the sun with all of this socialist/communist/Marxist stuff for too long. You have majorities of certain age groups and demographics that openly support and agree with many of their policies. It's time to rip the band aid off and have one major hellhole vs many multiple little hellholes or near hellholes throughout the country that we can all learn from and see they effects of those policies in real time.

ETA: Just my limited opinion

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We've had several Democrat hell hole cities like Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Portland etc for decades.

Do they learn the error of their ways? No. They just keep making it worse (see NYC).

It would meet the definition of insanity to expect that this time they will see the light.

BS to that.

We need fewer hell holes not more.

Take DC for example. Are you going to sit around all your life waiting for them to grow an IQ or are you going to send in the NG and say cut that **** out?

I thought he was being deported.

My first time to NYC was in 2004 with my then girlfriend now wife. She spent 1st to 11th grade growing up
In Morristown, NJ. We went all over. Stayed at the Millenium Hilton across from Ground Zero and took the subway all over and never felt unsafe.

Went back off and on over the years and in 2018 took my 8yo son, wife and 68yo Mom. Was still great, though we felt safer Ubering more and walking less for a variety of reasons.

Fast forward to 2024. Even though it had bounced back, it's more akin to what you saw in the 1990s as things had begun to cleanup but not all the way. Except this time it was heading negative. New York is headed to early mid 80s level debauchery, but with no more wolfs of Wall Street sniffing coke before headed to their secured flats.

God bless them. It doesn't have to be this way.

Regardless we'll be told nonstop by the MSM how great things are in NY and there will be constant mocking of conservatives who warned of the impending doom. It will be epic levels of gaslighting.

Problem is they won't learn. They will say it didn't work because the whole country wasn't doing it. Look how Chicago blames neighboring states for their own gun crimes. It's not that the thugs in Chicago use illegal guns it's that Indiana hasn't done the strict gun control. If they did then Chicago would be safe.

It's never the policies. It's all the other factors. Just ask a lib.

TheEternalOptimist said:

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If he wins, Trump should ensure Staten Island can self rule itself.

The rest of the city should be walled off and excluded from the outside world, with an inner wall around NYSE and helicopter pads so the market workers can still trade on the floor. At the same time, we should begin planning for the NYSE to be moved out of NYC and into a place like Covington Kentucky or Kansas City, MO.

Leave the dystopian hellhole behind.

I am TheEternalOptimist and I approve this message.

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Planning is already effectively in the works to move to Dallas. Dallas is the #2 financial hub in the US behind NYC.

You may have missed this in the larger announcement of the Texas Stock Exchange (TSE), but the Chicago branch of the NYSE left Chicago and moved to Dallas already and was rebranded as NYSE Texas. So, we are about to have two different exchanges in Dallas opening their doors in 2026. There are more NYSE companies based in Texas than any other state.

Obvious danger is that Dallas is already blue. It's a less bright blue than NYC or the left coast, but blue all the same and not likely to get any better. Republicans can't win there just like they can't win in NYC.

Regarding NYC, I see a lot of comments on here that it will take them years to recover and my opinion is that won't recover at all. They can't. Demographics and math are against it. They would have to purge who lives there and start over to get back to any semblance of a Rudy G era.

mjschiller said:

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Mamdani objective is to destroy NYC. He is a jihadist communist. He and his family hate America. Listen to his parents. They also hate America.

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His objective is to escalate to a federal position.

It's a script as old as time and has Soros' fingerprints all over it. It's the same playbook.

Prop up some loony leftist time and time again to run against the incumbent. If they lose, they lose. Repeat next cycle. If they win, repeat. They are not the incumbent, prop up someone ever more radical to ruin against them. It just keeps pushing the bar further and further left.

Having him run against the massively unpopular Cuomo all but guarantees votes. The stage is set that you have almost feel compelled to vote for "change" when they are dragging our retreads to run against him.

All of us out of state tax payers will end up bailing out NYC with increased federal funding. It wont be transparent, and not much we can do about it.

FobTies said:

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All of us out of state tax payers will end up bailing out NYC with increased federal funding. It wont be transparent, and not much we can do about it.

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National taxpayers will be forced to bail out NY and California b/c too big to fail. Chicago, the twin cities, and other big ass cities/states to follow via precedence. Losing NY to an outright Commie, backed by the Democratic (Socialist/Communist) Party is death by a thousand cuts. It's incremental, as intended.

The only real "local" control for the Left is the biggest cities they can find. Could not give a crap about rural America. No need to.

Until the producers (rural) cut them off. Food, power, water.

Just got back from NYC in 2050 in the DeLorean and boy Central Park is done for.