Aggie Student Suspicious Death in Austin After Friday Game

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agracer said:

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That APD statement makes me extremely sad.

Yep, crushing. I have been hoping there was at least some type of physical fight or foulplay responsible, and that there would be clear resolution and someone would be brought to justice.

So two lives are destroyed instead of one?



I was hoping she didn't kill herself. Mostly as a father of a girl and putting myself in her mother's shoes. Anything but that. It makes it way sadder to me even from a distance as well. To see someone so young and attractive willing to leap out of a high rise while on a trip with friends. Hurts to think about and hard to process
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There is also that last call to the boyfriend -- unless he told her to do it `or I don't care if you do' which is nuts to even think -- what you may likely learn is something horrifying is they had an apparently short argument, and she either threatened or just did it aftreward and he will be able to say what the tone was.



Without knowing anything about their relationship, I could see a guy saying something like that because he is done with drama and doesn't believe she would do it.
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agracer said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Ag13 said:

That APD statement makes me extremely sad.

Yep, crushing. I have been hoping there was at least some type of physical fight or foulplay responsible, and that there would be clear resolution and someone would be brought to justice.

So two lives are destroyed instead of one?



Humans desire meaning and purpose behind events, even if horrifying. Knowing your child was intentionally targeted and killed and that there is someone to then hold to account is somehow "better" in our minds than a random accident or suicide, because then your child died in either a completely meaningless and indifferent way or worse maybe you could have even prevented it.
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Texag5324 said:

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Since we're all guessing I'll take a stab.

Borrows friends phone after the rest of the group leaves to go back out for the night. She talks to her boyfriend about whatever on the phone and they're arguing. She's presumably still obligated from the tailgate. Gets off the phone upset and hands it back to her friend. Climbs up on the railing or onto a table and the friend freaks out and starts screaming at her. Friend tries to grab her to stop her so she's yelling to get off her as someone else heard. Friend loses the battle and she goes over.

Nothing malicious from anyone involved but everything matches the reports.

Then why did the friends claim they were asleep? Why didn't the friend call 9-1-1?

And why do you appear to so badly want it to be something other than a suicide?

If could very well have been a suicide. However, the APD's has appeared to jump to a conclusion in the first few hours without any real investigation. As a parent, I think the police owe it to the family to fully investigate all possibilities prior to closing case files, having a press conference, and hanging the "Mission Accomplished" banner.

The APD said they have the video from the apartment. Wouldnt that mean they could also see her fall from the balcony? They never came out and said that specifically but that is my guess.

Although it appears as if they are labeling it a suicide because she wrote a suicide note a few days before dying, made suicidal comments to friends the day she died, and was self harming herself the day she died. Im willing to bet the cops have text records of her texting suicidal comments to friends the day she passed away.




They said they had security video of the different groups entering and exiting the room. I have not heard them say they have footage of the fall from the balcony. I could have missed them say that.
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This story still has me twisted up with sadness.

I am praying daily for the family. Just an unimaginable tragedy.
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Has the boyfriend been interviewed? Are the three women who were with her in the room willing to take a lie detector test?
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Heisenberg01 said:

Texag5324 said:

Heisenberg01 said:

Rapier108 said:

Heisenberg01 said:

JobSecurity said:

Since we're all guessing I'll take a stab.

Borrows friends phone after the rest of the group leaves to go back out for the night. She talks to her boyfriend about whatever on the phone and they're arguing. She's presumably still obligated from the tailgate. Gets off the phone upset and hands it back to her friend. Climbs up on the railing or onto a table and the friend freaks out and starts screaming at her. Friend tries to grab her to stop her so she's yelling to get off her as someone else heard. Friend loses the battle and she goes over.

Nothing malicious from anyone involved but everything matches the reports.

Then why did the friends claim they were asleep? Why didn't the friend call 9-1-1?

And why do you appear to so badly want it to be something other than a suicide?

If could very well have been a suicide. However, the APD's has appeared to jump to a conclusion in the first few hours without any real investigation. As a parent, I think the police owe it to the family to fully investigate all possibilities prior to closing case files, having a press conference, and hanging the "Mission Accomplished" banner.

The APD said they have the video from the apartment. Wouldnt that mean they could also see her fall from the balcony? They never came out and said that specifically but that is my guess.

Although it appears as if they are labeling it a suicide because she wrote a suicide note a few days before dying, made suicidal comments to friends the day she died, and was self harming herself the day she died. Im willing to bet the cops have text records of her texting suicidal comments to friends the day she passed away.




They said they had security video of the different groups entering and exiting the room. I have not heard them say they have footage of the fall from the balcony. I could have missed them say that.


It isn't uncommon for buildings to have security cameras set-up to surveil their exteriors. It is completely understandable that the cops wouldn't say if such cameras recorded her fall, particularly if the time or location was already known.

I'm pretty sure the investigation turned up a whole lot of stuff they aren't telling us.

Suicides are tough on everyone. Those who knew them are forever wondering what they didn't do to prevent it. Of course, that is only after firmly believing that the victim could never have done it. The truth is hard to accept.

IMHO, Buzbee is out of line. This type of behavior is (one) reason (some) lawyers have bad reps. At best, Ms. Rodriguez will get some money. It won't be nearly enough or even help anything. My heart goes out for her and family. It will take time, but it will always hurt.

We likely will never hear any more about this after next week.







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Gabster43213 said:

Has the boyfriend been interviewed? Are the three women who were with her in the room willing to take a lie detector test?


APD says all of the kids have cooperated
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If she jumped as APD is saying, is it not standard investigative practice to determine what floor and apartment the deceased jumped from?

I can't imagine it being standard practice to just say the person jumped and we will figure out where she jumped from at a later time.
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Watermelon Man said:



IMHO, Buzbee is out of line. This type of behavior is (one) reason (some) lawyers have bad reps. At best, Ms. Rodriguez will get some money. It won't be nearly enough or even help anything. My heart goes out for her and family. It will take time, but it will always hurt.



Money from whom?
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Regarding the phone purse and mind set of the deceased.

"'A further review of Brianna's phone shows a deleted digital suicide note dated Tuesday, November 25 of this year, which was written to specific people in her life,' Austin Police Detective Robert Marshall stated at a press conference Thursday morning.

'From the moment this call originated up until now, between all the witness statements, all of the video evidence, and all of the digital evidence collected, at no time did any evidence point to this being anything of a criminal nature.

'Rather, our investigation has revealed that unfortunately, Brianna had made suicidal comments previously to friends back in October of this year. This continued through the evening of her death, with some self-harming actions earlier in the evening and a text message to another friend indicating the thought of suicide.'


"Marshall stated Aguilera was so drunk the night of her death that she had been asked to leave a tailgate at the Austin Rugby Club around 10pm.

'The only evidence that we have of any kind of physical altercation was Brianna punching one of her friends as they tried to help her out of the party,' the investigator confirmed.

'Witnesses stated that after Brianna was asked to leave the tailgate, she had repeatedly dropped her phone and staggered into a nearby wooded area where her phone and other items were later located by Austin police.'"

Feels like she may have been crying out for attention for awhile. I wouldn't be shocked if she was blacked out, called her bf to get attention, didn't get what she was expecting, and reacted by doing something she wouldn't have done sober.

The whole insinuation that the phone purse etc were planted after the fact doesn't line up with the facts. Mltiple people at the tail gate have admitted she was unruly and that she was asked to leave and that she kept dropping her cell phone etc due to her state of intoxication. After a couple drops, it wasn't their problem or her friends.

Sounds like she was running from life and it caught up with her and she didn't know what to do and reacted in an intoxicated State of mind that she probs wouldn't have done sober.

So sad but it sounds like the parents don't want to accept the facts. Understandably hard.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

agracer said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

Ag13 said:

That APD statement makes me extremely sad.

Yep, crushing. I have been hoping there was at least some type of physical fight or foulplay responsible, and that there would be clear resolution and someone would be brought to justice.

So two lives are destroyed instead of one?



I was hoping she didn't kill herself. Mostly as a father of a girl and putting myself in her mother's shoes. Anything but that. It makes it way sadder to me even from a distance as well. To see someone so young and attractive willing to leap out of a high rise while on a trip with friends. Hurts to think about and hard to process

Sometimes the one closest to their loved one is not aware of what is happening. Childern keep things from their parents, mostly to spare their parents from endless worry. Parents get to know your children's friends let the friends know that you are there for their childern and that you can be trusted.
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Latest from the mom:

I must continue to say that my daughter did not do what every news outlet is saying! My daughter's boyfriend confirmed Brianna never made statements about suicidal ideation. He respectfully paid his respects and is devastated.

I do not care what Austin PD continues to say I will continue to fight and like I told detective Marshall I am not going anywhere at all! Through proper channels, I hope to shed light on the fact that APD did not thoroughly investigate.

To the lead detective, Robert Marshall, I urge you to conduct a fair investigation for Brianna, because she deserves it.

If you are unable to, APD, hand it over to another authority that is capable of checking off every box!
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And if the Texas Rangers concluded it was suicide, the mother wouldn't believe it either.

She'd and Buzbee would just demand someone like the FBI investigate it again.
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Let's give this AGGIE mom some grace and time. Please.
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

Latest from the mom:

I must continue to say that my daughter did not do what every news outlet is saying! My daughter's boyfriend confirmed Brianna never made statements about suicidal ideation. He respectfully paid his respects and is devastated.

I do not care what Austin PD continues to say I will continue to fight and like I told detective Marshall I am not going anywhere at all! Through proper channels, I hope to shed light on the fact that APD did not thoroughly investigate.

To the lead detective, Robert Marshall, I urge you to conduct a fair investigation for Brianna, because she deserves it.

If you are unable to, APD, hand it over to another authority that is capable of checking off every box!

Didnt the APD say that Brianna sent several suicidal texts to friends the day she died? Also, they recovered the suicide note from her Iphone a few days before she died. I never saw anything about her making comments to her boyfriend about suicide.

Surely the APD could send this info to the mom so she stops making comments like this?
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I think the mother is simply in denial and is not rational. I can't imagine what it would be like to lose a child in this way.
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Really tough spot that this boyfriend is in. Think he was eager to share with the mother the brutal details of how this conversation really went - especially when you know she doesn't want to hear it? Of course not. And btw, she's retained an attack dog of an attorney so be careful about what you say. I would not take anything he said to her as detail of what really happened. Any compassionate person is not going to want to be frank and detailed with her. But then naturally she's going to run with any softening he may have done because as a mom she does not want to believe her daughter took this action.
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Sure seems that way. It's not like this is her first emotional outburst, considering her history.
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Please stop. This is one of those times when family and friends are definitely reading this. Be decent. Anyone can go back and read the thread. You don't have to rehash it.
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This situation sucks all around... I also believe PDs do not give all details of who / what was investigated to reach their conclusions. I can't even fathom losing someone with so many questions surrounding their death... just dreadful.
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I think my comment was decent. I don't blame the mother for being upset. It's a terrible tragedy. But it doesn't seem to be anything more than that. Lashing out at everyone else is wrong and doesn't lessen the tragedy at all. Just gets mud on other people.
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If I were the boyfriend and there was a fight on that phone call, and Briana DID threaten suicide, but he was over all the drama and either ignored it or said he didn't care.....knowing momma has Buzbee on speed dial would make me pause about how honest I'd be regarding what was said on that call. I'd be worried, as the boyfriend, that they'd come after me and hold me liable if I didn't do everything in my power to stop her.
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Texag5324 said:

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:


She makes a call in the bed room

Roommates go to sleep. Wake up at like 9am and can't find her and assume she left last night.

Roommates probably slept or were watching Netflix when she jumped and just didn't realize it and passed out.


She borrowed her friends phone around 12:43am, makes a 1 minute phone call, and then her body is found 2 minutes later. The reports say a large group left at 12:30am, and it was her and 3 girls left. She died around 12:45am. Also, witnesses said they heard an argument take place.

I guess everyone passed out right at 12:30am after everyone left and Brianna was the only person still awake 13 minutes later? Seems odd but plausible I guess. You would think at least one person inside that apartment was still awake and/or heard the argument.

I guess I am the only person that has been stuck with an intoxicated a hole friend all day. I am not saying this is the case, but it very well could be that simple. She was kicked out of a tailgate and obviously not in her right mind and was probably not the best to deal with all day. She was finally quite after the phone call with the bf and they finally didn't have to deal with a drunk person anymore. Would you get up and try to kick the hornets nest, or would you say to yourself "thank goodness they are finally asleep," and roll over yourself to flush the day?

ETA: She also punched one of her friends she was with. I am sure they were just tired of dealing with her and appreciated the silence and didn't know the tragedy had already unfolded.
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TacosaurusRex said:

Texag5324 said:

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:


She makes a call in the bed room

Roommates go to sleep. Wake up at like 9am and can't find her and assume she left last night.

Roommates probably slept or were watching Netflix when she jumped and just didn't realize it and passed out.


She borrowed her friends phone around 12:43am, makes a 1 minute phone call, and then her body is found 2 minutes later. The reports say a large group left at 12:30am, and it was her and 3 girls left. She died around 12:45am. Also, witnesses said they heard an argument take place.

I guess everyone passed out right at 12:30am after everyone left and Brianna was the only person still awake 13 minutes later? Seems odd but plausible I guess. You would think at least one person inside that apartment was still awake and/or heard the argument.

I guess I am the only person that has been stuck with an intoxicated a hole friend all day. I am not saying this is the case, but it very well could be that simple. She was kicked out of a tailgate and obviously not in her right mind and was probably not the best to deal with all day. She was finally quite after the phone call with the bf and they finally didn't have to deal with a drunk person anymore. Would you get up and try to kick the hornets nest, or would you say to yourself "thank goodness they are finally asleep," and roll over yourself to flush the day?

ETA: She also punched one of her friends she was with. I am sure they were just tired of dealing with her and appreciated the silence and didn't know the tragedy had already unfolded.

Yea I totally get that and trust me, Ive been there many times lol. Im just saying the timing (12:30am-12:45am) was tight between when everyone left to when Brianna fell was around 15 minutes. Just seems like someone would have been awake at that time and seen what happened. Especially with all of the noise and commotion from cops and ambulance downstairs.

Another weird thing is Buzbee claims the APD told him that Brianna handed the phone back to her friend after borrowing her phone to make the call to her bf. So if thats the case, then Brianna handed her phone back to her friend literally a minute (or less) before falling.
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Texag5324 said:

TacosaurusRex said:

Texag5324 said:

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:


She makes a call in the bed room

Roommates go to sleep. Wake up at like 9am and can't find her and assume she left last night.

Roommates probably slept or were watching Netflix when she jumped and just didn't realize it and passed out.


She borrowed her friends phone around 12:43am, makes a 1 minute phone call, and then her body is found 2 minutes later. The reports say a large group left at 12:30am, and it was her and 3 girls left. She died around 12:45am. Also, witnesses said they heard an argument take place.

I guess everyone passed out right at 12:30am after everyone left and Brianna was the only person still awake 13 minutes later? Seems odd but plausible I guess. You would think at least one person inside that apartment was still awake and/or heard the argument.

I guess I am the only person that has been stuck with an intoxicated a hole friend all day. I am not saying this is the case, but it very well could be that simple. She was kicked out of a tailgate and obviously not in her right mind and was probably not the best to deal with all day. She was finally quite after the phone call with the bf and they finally didn't have to deal with a drunk person anymore. Would you get up and try to kick the hornets nest, or would you say to yourself "thank goodness they are finally asleep," and roll over yourself to flush the day?

ETA: She also punched one of her friends she was with. I am sure they were just tired of dealing with her and appreciated the silence and didn't know the tragedy had already unfolded.

Yea I totally get that and trust me, Ive been there many times lol. Im just saying the timing (12:30am-12:45am) was tight between when everyone left to when Brianna fell was around 15 minutes. Just seems like someone would have been awake at that time and seen what happened. Especially with all of the noise and commotion from cops and ambulance downstairs.

Another weird thing is Buzbee claims the APD told him that Brianna handed the phone back to her friend after borrowing her phone to make the call to her bf. So if thats the case, then Brianna handed her phone back to her friend literally a minute (or less) before falling.

I agree with you for sure. I am just trying to put myself in the roommates shoes. It is very possible the other roommates didn't even know this girl (and still got punched by her). Think about the times in college when your roommate would invite a friend from back home and you couldn't stand the guy. I would just lock myself in my room for the night and if a bomb went off I wouldn't have gotten up to check it out because I was in my room with all my stuff and wasn't dealing with the drama.

The Buzbee stuff is very interesting though.


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I think one of the big elephants in the room that I haven't seen mentioned, and maybe it has and I missed it, is that apparently she was drunker than a bat in all of this.

No semi lucid or cognizant teen age girl get separated from her phone like that. Much less at an event like that game.

How did she get so blackout, for lack of a better word, drunk? Who provided the hooch and how was it facilitated? That is where there can be some real bad consequences in all of this.

I was always against the drinking age being raised, as I was in the age group that got legal, then illegal, and it was just stupid. What I have seen as my daughter has come of age is that a lot of late high school and early college kids have no idea how to handle booze and it's ills. And due to the staunch big brother prohibition and liabilities they don't learn until they are much older and away from their parents and or in a perilous environment.

I am sure that this is not always the case and maybe less kids drink now, I don't know but I hope so. But I have been at tailgates in a couple of college towns, including BCS where freshmen and sophs are partying WFO and I can tell they are in the midst of starting a binge.

She was obviously wasted and someone(s) needed to have looked out for her. No fault but her own, but the results are just tragic and crushing and such a waste.
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Texag5324 said:



Another weird thing is Buzbee claims the APD told him that Brianna handed the phone back to her friend after borrowing her phone to make the call to her bf. So if thats the case, then Brianna handed her phone back to her friend literally a minute (or less) before falling.

He could be claiming anything. For a number of reasons. I wouldn't put 10 cents on anything he says as he's trying to set up his future case in the public domain.

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Texag5324 said:

Horn_in_Aggieland said:

Latest from the mom:

I must continue to say that my daughter did not do what every news outlet is saying! My daughter's boyfriend confirmed Brianna never made statements about suicidal ideation. He respectfully paid his respects and is devastated.

I do not care what Austin PD continues to say I will continue to fight and like I told detective Marshall I am not going anywhere at all! Through proper channels, I hope to shed light on the fact that APD did not thoroughly investigate.

To the lead detective, Robert Marshall, I urge you to conduct a fair investigation for Brianna, because she deserves it.

If you are unable to, APD, hand it over to another authority that is capable of checking off every box!

Didnt the APD say that Brianna sent several suicidal texts to friends the day she died? Also, they recovered the suicide note from her Iphone a few days before she died. I never saw anything about her making comments to her boyfriend about suicide.

Surely the APD could send this info to the mom so she stops making comments like this?


They tried to meet with her 4 times before releasing the information. First 3 times that tried to contact her, she didn't answer the phone. 4th time, she told them to contact her lawyer.
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alot of brown and black people cannot handle alcohol. Like, at all. Its just not in their DNA.
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White pow...!!!! Wait never mind
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RGV AG said:

I think one of the big elephants in the room that I haven't seen mentioned, and maybe it has and I missed it, is that apparently she was drunker than a bat in all of this.

No semi lucid or cognizant teen age girl get separated from her phone like that. Much less at an event like that game.

How did she get so blackout, for lack of a better word, drunk? Who provided the hooch and how was it facilitated? That is where there can be some real bad consequences in all of this.

I was always against the drinking age being raised, as I was in the age group that got legal, then illegal, and it was just stupid. What I have seen as my daughter has come of age is that a lot of late high school and early college kids have no idea how to handle booze and it's ills. And due to the staunch big brother prohibition and liabilities they don't learn until they are much older and away from their parents and or in a perilous environment.

I am sure that this is not always the case and maybe less kids drink now, I don't know but I hope so. But I have been at tailgates in a couple of college towns, including BCS where freshmen and sophs are partying WFO and I can tell they are in the midst of starting a binge.

She was obviously wasted and someone(s) needed to have looked out for her. No fault but her own, but the results are just tragic and crushing and such a waste.


It has been pointed out she was asked to leave the tailgate party, and it must have been pretty bad for a hot girl to be asked to leave a party.
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Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

Texag5324 said:



Another weird thing is Buzbee claims the APD told him that Brianna handed the phone back to her friend after borrowing her phone to make the call to her bf. So if thats the case, then Brianna handed her phone back to her friend literally a minute (or less) before falling.

He could be claiming anything. For a number of reasons. I wouldn't put 10 cents on anything he says as he's trying to set up his future case in the public domain.


For all we know "handed her phone back" wasn't literally. Maybe Briana hung up the phone, walked out of the bedroom, the girls were asleep on the couch, so she set the phone back down where she got it from. Maybe she didn't physically put it in the hand of the owner.
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It has been pointed out she was asked to leave the tailgate party, and it must have been pretty bad for a hot girl to be asked to leave a party.

Yep, that is what I surmise as well. Ain't nobody asking a looker like to scatter unless she was totally disruptive and a PIA.
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Serious Lee said:

alot of brown and black people cannot handle alcohol. Like, at all. Its just not in their DNA.

Asians and American Indians, for sure.

Not sure about the Black and Brown claims though.

Mexicans and Mexican Americans, I've got a pretty good sample size over several decades and they're just as good, or bad as White folks.

Blacks I'm going to have to say that my sampling is probably tainted by the fact that the vast majority of Blacks that I've been drinking with have been college educated ("Graduate" in case Roland Martin reads this), or top sales performers so that's a different category to begin with than a blanket stereotype.
 
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