Back when I was a teenager in the 1980, the Mexican boys I hung out with could drink Miller Lites with the best of us gringo boys
bonfarr said:Gabster43213 said:
Has the boyfriend been interviewed? Are the three women who were with her in the room willing to take a lie detector test?
APD says all of the kids have cooperated
RGV AG said:
I think one of the big elephants in the room that I haven't seen mentioned, and maybe it has and I missed it, is that apparently she was drunker than a bat in all of this.
No semi lucid or cognizant teen age girl get separated from her phone like that. Much less at an event like that game.
How did she get so blackout, for lack of a better word, drunk? Who provided the hooch and how was it facilitated? That is where there can be some real bad consequences in all of this.
I was always against the drinking age being raised, as I was in the age group that got legal, then illegal, and it was just stupid. What I have seen as my daughter has come of age is that a lot of late high school and early college kids have no idea how to handle booze and it's ills. And due to the staunch big brother prohibition and liabilities they don't learn until they are much older and away from their parents and or in a perilous environment.
I am sure that this is not always the case and maybe less kids drink now, I don't know but I hope so. But I have been at tailgates in a couple of college towns, including BCS where freshmen and sophs are partying WFO and I can tell they are in the midst of starting a binge.
She was obviously wasted and someone(s) needed to have looked out for her. No fault but her own, but the results are just tragic and crushing and such a waste.
Serious Lee said:
alot of brown and black people cannot handle alcohol. Like, at all. Its just not in their DNA.
W said:
was the Rugby club tailgate serving alcohol?
W said:
was the Rugby club tailgate serving alcohol?
Tailgate88 said:W said:
was the Rugby club tailgate serving alcohol?
Tell me you've never been to a rugby club party without telling me that you've never been to a rugby club party.
The question is how many got naked before the end of the tailgate.
Texag5324 said:W said:
was the Rugby club tailgate serving alcohol?
Not sure if serious, but yes of course they were serving alcohol.
Texag5324 said:W said:
was the Rugby club tailgate serving alcohol?
Not sure if serious, but yes of course they were serving alcohol.
FCBlitz said:
Has anyone mention "Sex on the Balcony" that went wrong. Not mentioning it to get giggles and laughter, but it has happened before.
bigfooticus said:FCBlitz said:
Has anyone mention "Sex on the Balcony" that went wrong. Not mentioning it to get giggles and laughter, but it has happened before.
Not likely given the bf phone call timeline and subsequent 911 call. Reportedly there was no furniture on the balcony and the rail was 44"
Watermelon Man said:Heisenberg01 said:Texag5324 said:Heisenberg01 said:Rapier108 said:Heisenberg01 said:JobSecurity said:
Since we're all guessing I'll take a stab.
Borrows friends phone after the rest of the group leaves to go back out for the night. She talks to her boyfriend about whatever on the phone and they're arguing. She's presumably still obligated from the tailgate. Gets off the phone upset and hands it back to her friend. Climbs up on the railing or onto a table and the friend freaks out and starts screaming at her. Friend tries to grab her to stop her so she's yelling to get off her as someone else heard. Friend loses the battle and she goes over.
Nothing malicious from anyone involved but everything matches the reports.
Then why did the friends claim they were asleep? Why didn't the friend call 9-1-1?
And why do you appear to so badly want it to be something other than a suicide?
If could very well have been a suicide. However, the APD's has appeared to jump to a conclusion in the first few hours without any real investigation. As a parent, I think the police owe it to the family to fully investigate all possibilities prior to closing case files, having a press conference, and hanging the "Mission Accomplished" banner.
The APD said they have the video from the apartment. Wouldnt that mean they could also see her fall from the balcony? They never came out and said that specifically but that is my guess.
Although it appears as if they are labeling it a suicide because she wrote a suicide note a few days before dying, made suicidal comments to friends the day she died, and was self harming herself the day she died. Im willing to bet the cops have text records of her texting suicidal comments to friends the day she passed away.
They said they had security video of the different groups entering and exiting the room. I have not heard them say they have footage of the fall from the balcony. I could have missed them say that.
It isn't uncommon for buildings to have security cameras set-up to surveil their exteriors. It is completely understandable that the cops wouldn't say if such cameras recorded her fall, particularly if the time or location was already known.
I'm pretty sure the investigation turned up a whole lot of stuff they aren't telling us.
Suicides are tough on everyone. Those who knew them are forever wondering what they didn't do to prevent it. Of course, that is only after firmly believing that the victim could never have done it. The truth is hard to accept.
IMHO, Buzbee is out of line. This type of behavior is (one) reason (some) lawyers have bad reps. At best, Ms. Rodriguez will get some money. It won't be nearly enough or even help anything. My heart goes out for her and family. It will take time, but it will always hurt.
We likely will never hear any more about this after next week.
TacosaurusRex said:
My unfortunate theory is we will see an increase in female suicides for the next decade due to the increased use of social media.
Please don't let your kid's use socials, especially preteen girls.
ts5641 said:TacosaurusRex said:
My unfortunate theory is we will see an increase in female suicides for the next decade due to the increased use of social media.
Please don't let your kid's use socials, especially preteen girls.
I think this is already playing out unfortunately. If you read The Anxious Generation this can be directly tied to around 2009 when the first iPhone came online. It especially affects young females.
Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:Tailgate88 said:W said:
was the Rugby club tailgate serving alcohol?
Tell me you've never been to a rugby club party without telling me that you've never been to a rugby club party.
The question is how many got naked before the end of the tailgate.
Yeah, getting tossed from a Rugby Party/Tailgate for being too drunk is nearly impossible.