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Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Sid Farkas said:

Q for all the haters: Who is worse, Boomers or Isis?


I am not a "hater" of Boomers. Every generation made mistakes, Boomers did too.

Obvious answer is ISIS. Boomers were greedy, selfish and gullible. ISIS is pure evil.

Xers are greedy, selfish and gullible

Millennials are greedy, selfish and gullible

Z's are greedy, selfish and gullible


Can't say you are wrong.

In 20 years, Gen Alpha will be cursing Gen X.

But now, it is the Boomer's time to face the heat.
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Nevermind Medicare, which is just totally sidestepped in this whole discussion and is a big part of the article in the OP
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MemphisAg1 said:

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Boomers are the ones that control the power and the wealth of this country. They are the single largest voting bloc in America. It is, collectively, their decisions that got us into this mess. And they are the ones that are in the best position to do something positive.

They just don't have the nerve or the testicular fortitude to do it.

News flash for you! Boomers didn't create Social Security. It came to life in 1935, 11 years before the oldest boomer was born and 29 years before the youngest boomer. They had ZERO to do with its creation.

They were actually part of the solution in 1983 when legislation was passed to gradually increase the eligibility age for SS from 65 to 67. Boomers at that time would have been 37 and younger. All of them old enough to vote, and some of them serving in Congress.

Since that time, there has been no additional progress on reforming SS. While boomers have certainly been part of the voting population and legislators, the responsibility for inaction increasingly included GenX, Millenials, and even GenZ. All of those generations are of voting age, and many of the GenX and Millenials have been in legislative positions.

Why hasn't that mixed group of generations done anything about it? The ball has been in your court sir, and mine, and the other boomer bashers on this thread. If you want to point the finger for the approaching date in 2033 when SS tips into a cash-negative position since its inception, you need to first look in the mirror.

Of course it's not your fault solely. Nor mine, or anyone else on this thread. Blaming boomers for it might feel good in the moment, but it's a really lazy way of thinking about it. The facts show that many generations have not demanded action from their legislators to address the funding gap coming at us. We can still change the outcome, but it requires working together in a thoughtful, constructive way instead of the lazy finger pointing.

Boomers still control the Presidency and effectively Congress because they dominate the Committee Chairs. Anytime Boomers and Millennials want to put a Gen X like DeSzntis in charge though that would be great. He sure as hell fixed Florida.
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Zobel said:

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The only way to get what you want is by taking it from the young. The government doesn't have any money. Conservatives always seem to know this until it's money being taxed or printed to give to them.

It sucks. I get that. But the situation exists and the question is what is the best way to deal with it. "Best" is a value or moral judgment, which is why virtue (private and civic) comes into play.

Get what I want ??????

No, get what I'm owed which is money I and millions of others were forced to pay in.

So using your logic, its okay if the "young' steal money I and others were FORCED to pay in ? You want to 'steal' from someone go take it from congress whom abused the fund and created this mess in the first place.


Yes, if what you want is to be paid what you think you are owed, the only way to do that is to take it from the young, either through deficit spending/ inflation or increased taxation.

Legally you're not owed anything. The law doesn't actually promise any future benefits or a right or obligation on the part of the government - Supreme Court law settled this in Flemming vs Nestor in 1962.

SS doesn't have enough money to actually pay out what you paid in. It's a pay as you go system. At current rates there's enough to go on for another 7-8 years, then without intervention benefits get a 20-25% haircut. In current dollars there's enough to give every retiree a one time $44k payout.

I don't understand this kind of infantile view. "Congress" doesn't have money. The money comes from the citizens. The only way for you to get paid is by tax revenue or deficit spending. So this is poses a kind of moral question. There is an injustice guaranteed. What's the greater injustice? Reducing benefits for those who already paid? Or forcing people to continue to pay into a known broken system? I fall on the side that the latter is worse. I'm in the middle, age-wise. Hence my position that people my age (40s) should be willing to pay to keep it from going over the cliff and not receive any benefits. We should also cut benefits for the same reason. And sunset the program altogether to avoid tying it around our children's necks.

Doesn't seem like anybody from the generations before me had any problem taking it from the young ie me when I was 19 to 62 and paying in a MANDITORY percentage of income along with the match from my employers ....where's all the hate for them......and the civic concern for me for the money I apparently I have been bilked out of and as it turns out gave of my own free will and no longer have a claim to......?
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aggie93 said:

Boomers still control the Presidency and effectively Congress because they dominate the Committee Chairs. Anytime Boomers and Millennials want to put a Gen X like DeSzntis in charge though that would be great. He sure as hell fixed Florida.

The voters are in charge. They choose the president and Congress and can express their priorities and demands through their ballot. GenX and younger outnumber boomer voters by far. Roughly 20% of boomers have already died. No group of voters has made this a priority -- that is the point. Everybody wants to point fingers at others, but nobody is really doing anything about it. Look at the list of priorities for voters and you won't find it. Until that changes, nothing changes. (fwiw, I'm borderline boomer/GenX by a matter of months and identify with both).

As for DeSantis, he is the man. One of the most effective government executives we've had in a long time. No BS. Just gets it done without mean tweets or TACO. Would be awesome to see in the WH.
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I disagree that no one is making it a priority or trying to do something. The right wing youth in this country are - and if this thread plus other social media I follow is any indication, the boomers are fighting them tooth and nail.

Hence the lively discussion.
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Zobel said:

I disagree that no one is making it a priority or trying to do something. The right wing youth in this country are - and if this thread plus other social media I follow is any indication, the boomers are fighting them tooth and nail.

Hence the lively discussion.

The boomers are po'd because they played the game by the rules and now are being singled out and portrayed as the villains for doing so.........robbed of the fruits of our labors so to speak.
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MemphisAg1 said:

aggie93 said:

Boomers still control the Presidency and effectively Congress because they dominate the Committee Chairs. Anytime Boomers and Millennials want to put a Gen X like DeSzntis in charge though that would be great. He sure as hell fixed Florida.

The voters are in charge. They choose the president and Congress and can express their priorities and demands through their ballot. GenX and younger outnumber boomer voters by far. Roughly 20% of boomers have already died. No group of voters has made this a priority -- that is the point. Everybody wants to point fingers at others, but nobody is really doing anything about it. Look at the list of priorities for voters and you won't find it. Until that changes, nothing changes. (fwiw, I'm borderline boomer/GenX by a matter of months and identify with both).

As for DeSantis, he is the man. One of the most effective government executives we've had in a long time. No BS. Just gets it done without mean tweets or TACO. Would be awesome to see in the WH.

Gen X and Millennials are very different generally though in terms of thought process. We vote very differently.
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A couple of things changed which changed the solvency. One is that there were more workers supporting the retiree pool. One is that retirees were living longer. Another is that the economic situation was different, in a macro-growth trend.

Civic concern isnt about you, as an individual. It is about the state. Civic virtue is the citizen having the right virtues mapped to their form of government - since we live in a republic, that means the ability to both rule and be ruled, and to be able to make decisions without regard for your personal self interest. Nobody should have "civic concern" for you as a person. Civic concern is about the republic. Identity politics - which is what you're talking about - is cancer in a republic.

I'm really not sure why framing this becomes a personal issue. This isn't your fault in particular, and I'm not saying it is. I don't hate you, or boomers; I don't hate anyone. It is a fault of the body politic, collectively. We're both part of that. Since boomers were in charge for a very long time, and only recently have become not the largest voting bloc, up til now they bear a majority of the blame. Because of the way politics works (party control, chairs, etc), they still have the majority of political power.

But this is waning, so it's becoming a problem for the next generation to solve. The problem with the boomers saying "screw you, pay me" is when they no longer have the votes, the younger people might just say "screw you, no".
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they did that, but they also expanded medicare, voted for politicians to kick the can down the road and make it a future generations problem, presided over a massive change in the demographics of this country by importing the third world which hurt the domestic job market, and presided over a massive industrial base hollowing-out with globalization which has crushed entire areas of this country economically and massively endangered our geopolitical position.

all the while they did this while becoming the wealthiest generation in american history, and now that they're in the economic position they're expecting the young to continue pay them even though the nation is broke, running massive deficits, and the social security trust fund is nearly depleted, and white people are on track to be a minority in this country. when the median boomer turned 18 around 1973 this country was 89% white. today its 57% and falling.

again - this isn't about you or me, but this is what happened.
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infinity ag said:

Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Sid Farkas said:

Q for all the haters: Who is worse, Boomers or Isis?


I am not a "hater" of Boomers. Every generation made mistakes, Boomers did too.

Obvious answer is ISIS. Boomers were greedy, selfish and gullible. ISIS is pure evil.

Xers are greedy, selfish and gullible

Millennials are greedy, selfish and gullible

Z's are greedy, selfish and gullible


Can't say you are wrong.

In 20 years, Gen Alpha will be cursing Gen X.

But now, it is the Boomer's time to face the heat.

How many early millenials and late X er's are willing to give up their 5 bdr, 3 bath 3 car garage homes, their golf memberships at the country club, their $100K pickups and cars, their annual vacations to where ever, giving their 16 year old a new car on his/her birthday, eating their wagyu beef rib eyes and drinking their high dollar whiskey and start living a more modest lifestyle to help the situation ? Few to none I would bet
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Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Sid Farkas said:

Q for all the haters: Who is worse, Boomers or Isis?


I am not a "hater" of Boomers. Every generation made mistakes, Boomers did too.

Obvious answer is ISIS. Boomers were greedy, selfish and gullible. ISIS is pure evil.

Xers are greedy, selfish and gullible

Millennials are greedy, selfish and gullible

Z's are greedy, selfish and gullible


Can't say you are wrong.

In 20 years, Gen Alpha will be cursing Gen X.

But now, it is the Boomer's time to face the heat.

How many early millenials and late X er's are willing to give up their 5 bdr, 3 bath 3 car garage homes, their golf memberships at the country club, their $100K pickups and cars, their annual vacations to where ever, giving their 16 year old a new car on his/her birthday, eating their wagyu beef rib eyes and drinking their high dollar whiskey and start living a more modest lifestyle to help the situation ? Few to none I would bet


I do not need a dime from the government to do those things. You are not paying for that with your SS check.
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Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Sid Farkas said:

Q for all the haters: Who is worse, Boomers or Isis?


I am not a "hater" of Boomers. Every generation made mistakes, Boomers did too.

Obvious answer is ISIS. Boomers were greedy, selfish and gullible. ISIS is pure evil.

Xers are greedy, selfish and gullible

Millennials are greedy, selfish and gullible

Z's are greedy, selfish and gullible


Can't say you are wrong.

In 20 years, Gen Alpha will be cursing Gen X.

But now, it is the Boomer's time to face the heat.

How many early millenials and late X er's are willing to give up their 5 bdr, 3 bath 3 car garage homes, their golf memberships at the country club, their $100K pickups and cars, their annual vacations to where ever, giving their 16 year old a new car on his/her birthday, eating their wagyu beef rib eyes and drinking their high dollar whiskey and start living a more modest lifestyle to help the situation ? Few to none I would bet

Why deflect like this? Maybe this picture in your head makes it easier to shift all the burden to younger generations instead of compromising. GenX and millennial on this thread have accepted that we're in for a rough ride. The callousness of the older posters on this thread only makes that load feel heavier. You will get yours as the government prints money and taxes the rest of us into oblivion, all while making it clear that we will have no hope getting what we're" owed". As a parent, I would like to leave something better for my offspring. I would hope all parents, especially Ags, would have a similar inclination....
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McNasty said:

Why deflect like this? Maybe this picture in your head makes it easier to shift all the burden to younger generations instead of compromising.

We're not shifting jack to younger generations. We paid our 6.2% of wages; you pay yours. If that results in benefits declining as the future unfolds, then so be it. We're not asking you to pay more. What's wrong with paying your fair share just like the rest of us did?
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MemphisAg1 said:

McNasty said:

Why deflect like this? Maybe this picture in your head makes it easier to shift all the burden to younger generations instead of compromising.

We're not shifting jack to younger generations. We paid our 6.2% of wages; you pay yours. If that results in benefits declining as the future unfolds, then so be it. We're not asking you to pay more. What's wrong with paying your fair share just like the rest of us did?

Because you didnt raise a generation bigger then your own. The key to a good ponzi scheme is a growing base. That isnt happening.
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Tom Fox said:

Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Sid Farkas said:

Q for all the haters: Who is worse, Boomers or Isis?


I am not a "hater" of Boomers. Every generation made mistakes, Boomers did too.

Obvious answer is ISIS. Boomers were greedy, selfish and gullible. ISIS is pure evil.

Xers are greedy, selfish and gullible

Millennials are greedy, selfish and gullible

Z's are greedy, selfish and gullible


Can't say you are wrong.

In 20 years, Gen Alpha will be cursing Gen X.

But now, it is the Boomer's time to face the heat.

How many early millenials and late X er's are willing to give up their 5 bdr, 3 bath 3 car garage homes, their golf memberships at the country club, their $100K pickups and cars, their annual vacations to where ever, giving their 16 year old a new car on his/her birthday, eating their wagyu beef rib eyes and drinking their high dollar whiskey and start living a more modest lifestyle to help the situation ? Few to none I would bet


I do not need a dime from the government to do those things. You are not paying for that with your SS check.

Where did I say I was? You want us olds to take cuts and puts some more skin in the game to bring things out of an "Armageddon" scenario. Why shouldn't you?
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texagbeliever said:

MemphisAg1 said:

McNasty said:

Why deflect like this? Maybe this picture in your head makes it easier to shift all the burden to younger generations instead of compromising.

We're not shifting jack to younger generations. We paid our 6.2% of wages; you pay yours. If that results in benefits declining as the future unfolds, then so be it. We're not asking you to pay more. What's wrong with paying your fair share just like the rest of us did?

Because you didnt raise a generation bigger then your own. The key to a good ponzi scheme is a growing base. That isnt happening.

That's an attempt to weasel out of your obligation. No one is asking you to do more than we did. We paid ours. You pay yours. Simple.
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How much more than the $250k + FICA that I pay annually do I need to kick in?

I get the feeling that I am already doing my part.
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BusterAg said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

You're being very selective in your generational bashing.

When I was young with three young kids I benefitted from the transfer of wealth from the old to the young to pay for public schools. My kids all went to public school even though I essentially paid nothing for it because I was in rental property or a small first-time, low-value home.

As 20 years passed and my kids exited the public school system, my standard of living also improved to owning large homes and paying much more in property taxes, most of which goes to local school districts. From my mid 40's to mid 80's life expectancy, I will help fund a free public education for the younger segment of society. A transfer from older to younger.

And I'm ok with that because I benefitted from it when I was younger. It's now my turn to return the favor.

SS and Medicare are that situation in reverse, except recipients actually pay into it for their entire working life. It is true that it is financed by payments from current workers. That's how it was designed. When you're old you will also draw SS/MC benefits that are paid in the moment by younger workers.

SS/MC funding needs obvious fixes with the obvious shortfall in front of us. Let's have the debate on how to do that. But spare me the selective boomer hate while you ignore other public funding mechanisms that transfer from older to younger.

Not to mention that boomers hold half the wealth in this country. So they're already paying more than other generations in taxes today. And if they're not, it's because they're keeping their assets in real estate and investment accounts which will transfer down to their kids when they die someday, anyway. So either they paying it forward now or will in the future (assuming private equity healthcare doesn't take it all first).

So, my solution for the SS fix is to end it, and pay for the current liabilities with a giant estate tax as the Boomers die off. When you die, prior to any other calculus of estate tax, you have to repay 100% of what you collected in SS, zero deductions. That would likely be enough to fill the gap.

Let the boomers pay for the problem they created with the assets that they accumulated. We can wait for you to die before we take it.

On a collective level, this is exactly what is happening anyways. The next few generations are going to pay for the mess that the Boomers created by liquidating the assets that the Boomer accumulated and passed on to their kids. They have passed on a collective liability, but want to retain their private assets. A massive estate tax just makes that collective fix more individualized, and something that can't really be ignored.


I didn't "create" any of it. I was playing the game with the rules that were set when I turned 16 and started having money taken from my check. I also had nothing to do with the decision to use SS monies as a general house fund to pay all kinds of other debts. If some politician ran on "I want to fix this problem and it's gonna take some pain", I almost certainly would have been very interested to see what other ideas they had and would likely support. Surely there is a long list out there of politicians that have run on this platform, right?

Now I'm here trying to come up with solutions and you **** all over boomers again. It's responses like this that make people say they are going to enjoy cashing that check and be using it buy hookers and blow.

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Rattler12 said:

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Boomers aren't the only issue. Look at the people screaming for free government healthcare or the losers who want their student loans forgiven because they "can't pay the back" and the thought of a second job is "being out of touch".


Every generation wants their pet projects and it all has to do with more government handouts. Ever notice it's always framed as "it's what we should do as a civil society" or my favorite "social contract". The "social contract" seems to only run one way. It's the producers giving to the non producers. It's never "stop having kids you can't afford" or "stop being fat tub of goo". It's always what can we take and give to others.

The poor will always be with us, and they will always want help.

Boomers are the ones that control the power and the wealth of this country. They are the single largest voting bloc in America. It is, collectively, their decisions that got us into this mess. And they are the ones that are in the best position to do something positive.

They just don't have the nerve or the testicular fortitude to do it.

I know lots of amazing boomers. Many of them hate their peers.

If we are trying to figure out societal wide solutions to fix societal wide problems, why should Boomers be exempt from the problems that they are most responsible for creating? I think it is fair to ask them to help clean up their own mess.

One thing I agree with Tom about is that we are in a mess. We just have different boogeymen to blame for how we got here and how to fix it, likely because who he knows and interacts with is very different from who I know and interact with.

Who are you going to blame when all the boomers are dead and gone? And it's a sure bet you will be blaming someone ......


Probably the gingers. No one likes red heads.
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I think most on here agree that retired people over 70 yrs old shouldn't pay property or school tax, they have already paid our a fair share over decades and no longer have kids in school.

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5Amp said:

I think most on here agree that retired people over 70 yrs old shouldn't pay property or school tax, they have already paid our a fair share over decades and no longer have kids in school.


Yeah, boomers should be exempted from all taxes, and receive all the benefits. Our whole society should be organized around their needs.
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5Amp said:

I think most on here agree that retired people over 70 yrs old shouldn't pay property or school tax, they have already paid our a fair share over decades and no longer have kids in school.




I'm cool with that.
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MemphisAg1 said:

BusterAg said:

Boomers are the ones that control the power and the wealth of this country. They are the single largest voting bloc in America. It is, collectively, their decisions that got us into this mess. And they are the ones that are in the best position to do something positive.

They just don't have the nerve or the testicular fortitude to do it.

News flash for you! Boomers didn't create Social Security. It came to life in 1935, 11 years before the oldest boomer was born and 29 years before the youngest boomer. They had ZERO to do with its creation.

They were actually part of the solution in 1983 when legislation was passed to gradually increase the eligibility age for SS from 65 to 67. Boomers at that time would have been 37 and younger. All of them old enough to vote, and some of them serving in Congress.

Since that time, there has been no additional progress on reforming SS. While boomers have certainly been part of the voting population and legislators, the responsibility for inaction increasingly included GenX, Millenials, and even GenZ. All of those generations are of voting age, and many of the GenX and Millenials have been in legislative positions.

Why hasn't that mixed group of generations done anything about it? The ball has been in your court sir, and mine, and the other boomer bashers on this thread. If you want to point the finger for the approaching date in 2033 when SS tips into a cash-negative position since its inception, you need to first look in the mirror.

Of course it's not your fault solely. Nor mine, or anyone else on this thread. Blaming boomers for it might feel good in the moment, but it's a really lazy way of thinking about it. The facts show that many generations have not demanded action from their legislators to address the funding gap coming at us. We can still change the outcome, but it requires working together in a thoughtful, constructive way instead of the lazy finger pointing.

I actually have zero problems with SS as a plan. I actually think some form of safety net done well is important to society, and, as I have said in this tread, encourages rational risk-taking, which is value creating for our economy.

What I have a problem with is how unsustainable it has become, and how the people that are currently retired shouldn't have to share some of the pain of creating that problem. If the people that were paying into SS also voted in people that were fiscally responsible enough to make it sustainable, then I would have a lot of empathy for them.

But, we didn't do that. We didn't maintain a sustainable fiscal policy. Boomers were one of the very important demographics that created that. For them to complain that "we paid in, give us all that we owe" rings hollow when you are passing on these giant liabilities that you helped create.

It's a giant poop sandwich, and everyone is going to have to take a bite.

But, the Boomers have been in solid control of this economy and government for a while now, and it has gone downhill on a rocket sled.

If SS benefits get cut, it's part of their own damn fault, because they couldn't elect people that didn't give away free stuff to EREBODY.

I still think that part of the solution is to tax the crap out of the Boomers on their way out the door, since they were such a significant contributor to the problem, and the Gen Zers and Gen Xers haven't done anything to earn that "wealth" that the Boomers created anyways. They helped create this massive tax bill. They should help pay for it, the spoiled, self-interested brats.
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Zobel said:

Nevermind Medicare, which is just totally sidestepped in this whole discussion and is a big part of the article in the OP

Again, I'd be trying to vote five times in one day for someone that had solid ideas to reform healthcare including Medicare and base it on personal need and not because a person chose to live a ****ty lifestyle, needing constant medical attention more than normally required for their age.

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Zobel said:

5Amp said:

I think most on here agree that retired people over 70 yrs old shouldn't pay property or school tax, they have already paid our a fair share over decades and no longer have kids in school.


Yeah, boomers should be exempted from all taxes, and receive all the benefits. Our whole society should be organized around their needs.

If you run for political office, I would vote for you. Five times in one day if I could figure out how to do it or mail it in.

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Rattler12 said:

infinity ag said:

Sid Farkas said:

Q for all the haters: Who is worse, Boomers or Isis?


I am not a "hater" of Boomers. Every generation made mistakes, Boomers did too.

Obvious answer is ISIS. Boomers were greedy, selfish and gullible. ISIS is pure evil.

Xers are greedy, selfish and gullible

Millennials are greedy, selfish and gullible

Z's are greedy, selfish and gullible

All generalizations are incorrect but have a nugget of truth to them.

Xers Millennials are actually pretty cool, just very cynical and self-interested.

Z's are entitled little *****es that want important jobs where they don't really have to work hard.

One of the reasons we have a K shaped economy is that work ethic is much more variable in the younger generation than it was when I was a kid. It used to be much easier to find people that were willing to work 50 - 60 hours a week to get ahead in their career. Those kids are harder and harder to find these days.

Surprise, surprise, the kids that ARE willing to work hard are making even more, compared to their peers, than my generation.

And I generally find Boomers to be very driven and pretty self-reliant. But, they are leaving their kids a mess to clean up, and that is uncool.
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BusterAg said:

I still think that part of the solution is to tax the crap out of the Boomers on their way out the door, since they were such a significant contributor to the problem, and the Gen Zers and Gen Xers haven't done anything to earn that "wealth" that the Boomers created anyways. They helped create this massive tax bill. They should help pay for it, the spoiled, self-interested brats.

As Tony Franklin posted above, all the lazy finger-pointing and generational whining is going to make cashing that check even more enjoyable. L O L.
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5Amp said:

I think most on here agree that retired people over 70 yrs old shouldn't pay property or school tax, they have already paid our a fair share over decades and no longer have kids in school.



I completely agree with this.

Those taxes should accrue, interest free, on the property until it is transferred to those that inherit it.

At least I'm consistent.
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If that's your stance, when the zoomers come for SS/Medicare, the schadenfreude will be irresistible.

For the guy crying about sowing generational dissent, pot meet kettle.
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MemphisAg1 said:

BusterAg said:

I still think that part of the solution is to tax the crap out of the Boomers on their way out the door, since they were such a significant contributor to the problem, and the Gen Zers and Gen Xers haven't done anything to earn that "wealth" that the Boomers created anyways. They helped create this massive tax bill. They should help pay for it, the spoiled, self-interested brats.

As Tony Franklin posted above, all the lazy finger-pointing and generational whining is going to make cashing that check even more enjoyable. L O L.

Until orange juice costs you $85 a gallon and you are stuck with a fixed income, am I right?
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I'm aligned with you on nearly everything but this. Property taxes are one of the best forms of taxes, because they encourage efficient use of finite resources by imposing a carrying cost on ownership. Prevents asset hoarding without productive use, which is good for society.

High property taxes signal to a homeowner maybe you don't really need or want to live in the large home in the neighborhood with the best schools, etc.

Cutting property taxes just squeezes people entering the home buying market right now even harder… for what benefit? To tilt the scales in favor of a gerontocracy even harder?
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Zobel said:

If that's your stance, when the zoomers come for SS/Medicare, the schadenfreude will be irresistible.

For the guy crying about sowing generational dissent, pot meet kettle.

It's going to be so funny seeing you in your 60's demanding that those youngsters do their part to keep paying into SS just like you did for 45 years.

I might not be here then, but the thought warms my heart.
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"lol it's going to be funny if you turn out to be a selfish ahole like me"

Sick burn
 
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