2020 GA election was fake news

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Turns out, the Georgia election in 2020 was full of fraud. They erroneously certified 315000 ballots by counting early ballots without poll workers signatures.

This is massive fraud



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And Fulton County admitted to it.

Ann Brumbaugh, attorney for the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, told the SEB in the hearing that while she has "not seen the tapes" herself, the county does "not dispute that the tapes were not signed." Brumbaugh continued, "It was a violation of the rule. We, since 2020, again, we have new leadership and a new building and a new board and a new standard operating procedures. And since then the training has been enhanced. … But … we don't dispute the allegation from the 2020 election."


Winning Georgia alone in 2020 would not have propelled trump to victory. But, this confirmation of fraud helps prove the 2020 election was a joke.
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Here's the deal about Georgia to me. During my deep dive into 2020 election, there were several different lax procedures that easily could have been utilized to sway the election in Georgia. And those went through every single step of the election, even before voting started, up to a year before in fact.

Copies of the entire state's voter rolls were stolen from a polling place in a local election in 2019. Never located nor even investigated. The state of Georgia contracts with Dominion for state-wide and exclusive use for all Georgia elections, primaries and generals in 2019. Was a whole new system using BMDs instead of DREs which were digital only and could not be audited, which was the subject of a long running federal court case. One thing the Dominion contract didn't cover? The state's voter rolls. Those remained the same as the ones stolen and missing.

Then Dominion and the state agreed with Maricopa based Runbeck Election Services to create all of the mail in ballots for the state, using that same compromised voter roll base. Runbeck, as a private company, has no supervision, nor is it subject to state nor federal freedom of information act laws in any state wherein Runbeck provides election services, and there are many such states.

Before the election, there were hundreds of thousands test ballots that were created for certification of the machines by the state before use. No where on those test ballots was it obvious they were not actual ballots. Nor were any of those ballots kept segregated and secured during nor after the testing was done. One other kicker during that testing, because of covid, the state workers performing them had a quarantine period. Guess who was brought in to replace them? Dominion employees.

And all of that was pre-election. Just the tip of the iceberg.
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busted pipes...no flooding or plumbers called
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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This is a shock to no one. Looking forward to the Democrat excuses on this one.
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YouBet said:

This is a shock to no one. Looking forward to the Democrat excuses on this one.

It is to one F 16 poster from Georgia.
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If true, a count needs to be demanded of R vs D for those ballots. I am betting it was at least 65% D, which would have more than swung the election.
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In my mind, Trumps problem in the 2020 post election fight is that he allowed every single election fraud theory and every water carrier of every theory to go to battle for an all out fight to get the election investigated in each state where numbers where not making sense.

Allowing that to happen in the age of social media was a miscalculation. It muddied the waters and wasted time in having to manage fallout from the crackpot theories which carried over to legitimate issues with the election like this one being reported on here.

Don't get me wrong. Even as someone that was forged in the fires of national political movements and beltway politics, What happened to Trump from 2015-2020 was the most complex multilayered take down of a candidate, nominee, elect, and sitting US president in our nations history. It was run from both inside and outside our government. It was run from all of one political party and a faction of the party that president represented. The answers for how to do battle in that environment didn't really exist, because it had never really been done before. Mostly because a true outsider to the federal government and its two party political system had never made it through to win the top prize.
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Would these votes have been lawful if not for the poll worker's mistake?
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IMO the time to stop the steal was way before the election. We should have never allowed states to institute massive mail in voting that is rife for fraud.

The only people that should be allowed to vote by mail are the military. Period. If you can't be bothered to get off your ass and go vote we don't need your voice.

After the election has been held, it is too late. You can't put **** back in a horse.
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MohamedMahmoud said:

Would these votes have been lawful if not for the poll worker's mistake?

mistake lol
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yep...it was "fortified"
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MohamedMahmoud said:

Would these votes have been lawful if not for the poll worker's mistake?

Wrong question. Take provisional ballots for instance. They can be termed "lawful" ballots but still not be counted.

Under state law, ballots have to be certified through chain of custody and other means to be included in the count.

When the chain of custody mandated by state law is missing or incomplete, those ballots cannot be included in the final count. Such an error as happened here should have been caught by canvassing post election but before the final count was certified. Granted, narrow window of time given our election laws but only goes to show Georgia had foxes watching the hen house.
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Ballots should be treated the same way as blood, or evidence in a trial.

Need chain of custody. If there is a break in chain of custody then doubt is levied against said evidence.

But here... No chain of custody? No problem! MOST SECURE ELECTION EVA!
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If they had followed the rules, just think of all the fake voters and harvested nursing home voters that would have been disenfranchised.
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AgNav93 said:

IMO the time to stop the steal was way before the election. We should have never allowed states to institute massive mail in voting that is rife for fraud.

The only people that should be allowed to vote by mail are the military. Period. If you can't be bothered to get off your ass and go vote we don't need your voice.

After the election has been held, it is too late. You can't put **** back in a horse.

China virus which Fauci helped fund and Democrat "never let a crisis go to waste" strategy. This was the outcome of that.

Worked brilliantly.
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That doesn't mean the ballots were actually fraudulent /libs
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YouBet said:

This is a shock to no one. Looking forward to the Democrat excuses on this one.



GA doesn't matter; Joe still won without it.


There ya go!
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Logos Stick said:

YouBet said:

This is a shock to no one. Looking forward to the Democrat excuses on this one.



GA doesn't matter; Joe still won without it.


There ya go!

Cheating in Arizona was real as well
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I watched the evidentiary hearings held in Judge Amero's court. He ruled in favor the plaintff's motion for more enhanced scanning. i.e. higher resolution. Then inexplicably two weeks later dismissed the case for "lack of standing". Court of Appeals reversed that, remanded and a new judge was appointed, in 2022.

The new judge has refused to even schedule one hearing on that case since then.
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samurai_science said:

Logos Stick said:

YouBet said:

This is a shock to no one. Looking forward to the Democrat excuses on this one.



GA doesn't matter; Joe still won without it.


There ya go!

Cheating in Arizona was real as well


They cheated all over the map. MIBs, drop boxes, ballot harvesting, ignoring election laws, etc...

The dummy can't raise money for his library but he got 81 million votes, the most by any candidate in US history. The worst president of my lifetime got 81 million votes. AYFKM... LOLOL.
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What did I say about those test ballots? Yeah, they were used. I saw some testimony from a long term election worker who was present during most of the pre-election certification of machines using test ballots. She had done such testing several times before and understood the processes and procedures for varying the candidate's selection to check all races to ensure they were being counted.

IOW, there was a designed script they were to follow. But then the covid quarantine happened (did not affect her personally) so she was sent over to help cover working alongside the replacement Dominion employees. She noticed those employees were not following the script and were voting Biden on every test ballot. When she asked why the Dominion people were not following the scripted protocol, she was told they had not been trained on it.
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Bridget, yeah that was her name. Couldn't remember it. Thanks!
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As always, until people actually go to jail for this, the cheating will continue. Also, as always, I don't expect there to be any repercussions.

Lawless behavior in government begets lawless behavior among those who find justice denied.
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aggiehawg said:

Here's the deal about Georgia to me. During my deep dive into 2020 election, there were several different lax procedures that easily could have been utilized to sway the election in Georgia. And those went through every single step of the election, even before voting started, up to a year before in fact.

Copies of the entire state's voter rolls were stolen from a polling place in a local election in 2019. Never located nor even investigated. The state of Georgia contracts with Dominion for state-wide and exclusive use for all Georgia elections, primaries and generals in 2019. Was a whole new system using BMDs instead of DREs which were digital only and could not be audited, which was the subject of a long running federal court case. One thing the Dominion contract didn't cover? The state's voter rolls. Those remained the same as the ones stolen and missing.

Then Dominion and the state agreed with Maricopa based Runbeck Election Services to create all of the mail in ballots for the state, using that same compromised voter roll base. Runbeck, as a private company, has no supervision, nor is it subject to state nor federal freedom of information act laws in any state wherein Runbeck provides election services, and there are many such states.

Before the election, there were hundreds of thousands test ballots that were created for certification of the machines by the state before use. No where on those test ballots was it obvious they were not actual ballots. Nor were any of those ballots kept segregated and secured during nor after the testing was done. One other kicker during that testing, because of covid, the state workers performing them had a quarantine period. Guess who was brought in to replace them? Dominion employees.

And all of that was pre-election. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Where do you think those $400M Zuckerbucks went?

2020 was a massive fraud. Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, all three. The good news is that it brought the fraud to the limelight, and will make it more difficult to pull off again.

The judges overseeing the cases are not going to have Gore v Bush on their brains when they get challenges, they are going to have the Georgia election, and the continued smacking around of Boalsburg by SCOTUS on their brain when things like this happen again (and, they will).

The Dems blew their load on the 2020 election, and underappreciated just how pissed off 45% of the country was going to be at them for the whole COVID fiasco.

Trust in institutions is basically gone, gone, gone.

My hope is that Vance and/or DeSantis will have the stones to tackle voter integrity issues. Trump is too focused on the alien invasion right now, but that might very well be the best use of his focus.
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MohamedMahmoud said:

Would these votes have been lawful if not for the poll worker's mistake?

That's kind of like asking if the murder would have been lawful except for the bullet that came out of the gun.

This wasn't a mistake. This was poll workers refusing to swear that the ballots were genuine and handled with the proper chain-of-custody protocols and face the felony charges that they would have faced if it was proven that they knew that they were lying. That is a huge, huge difference.
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You can't tackle it without nuking the filibuster and they won't do that. This is a legislature issue.

Federal laws need to be passed on MIBs, chain of custody, voter id requirements, ballot reception deadlines, etc...
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aggiehawg said:

MohamedMahmoud said:

Would these votes have been lawful if not for the poll worker's mistake?

Wrong question. Take provisional ballots for instance. They can be termed "lawful" ballots but still not be counted.

Under state law, ballots have to be certified through chain of custody and other means to be included in the count.

When the chain of custody mandated by state law is missing or incomplete, those ballots cannot be included in the final count. Such an error as happened here should have been caught by canvassing post election but before the final count was certified. Granted, narrow window of time given our election laws but only goes to show Georgia had foxes watching the hen house.


There needs to be a remedy to the situation that isn't just tossing the votes. Or else you can influence an election by intentionally tainting a batch of votes you know will slant toward your opponent.

Perhaps they can cure them with an investigation, but if not, then if the margin of victory is less than the quantity votes you aren't counting due to no fault of the voters, then the election would have to be declared invalid.

That's a nightmare scenario, but better than allowing manipulation.
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AtomicActuator said:

aggiehawg said:

MohamedMahmoud said:

Would these votes have been lawful if not for the poll worker's mistake?

Wrong question. Take provisional ballots for instance. They can be termed "lawful" ballots but still not be counted.

Under state law, ballots have to be certified through chain of custody and other means to be included in the count.

When the chain of custody mandated by state law is missing or incomplete, those ballots cannot be included in the final count. Such an error as happened here should have been caught by canvassing post election but before the final count was certified. Granted, narrow window of time given our election laws but only goes to show Georgia had foxes watching the hen house.


There needs to be a remedy to the situation that isn't just tossing the votes. Or else you can influence an election by intentionally tainting a batch of votes you know will slant toward your opponent.

Perhaps they can cure them with an investigation, but if not, then if the margin of victory is less than the quantity votes you aren't counting due to no fault of the voters, then the election would have to be declared invalid.

That's a nightmare scenario, but better than allowing manipulation.

My understanding is that the way to cure varies state by state, which is appropriate.

I'm not sure what the way to cure is in Georgia, or if there is one.

Potential ways are to have the courts rule whether or not the votes should be counted if they aren't certified by the poll workers, do a runoff if the invalid ballots are greater in number than the margin of victory, or kick the election to the legislature if the election can't be validated due to too many invalid votes.
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This wasn't a mistake.
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Logos Stick said:

You can't tackle it without nuking the filibuster and they won't do that. This is a legislature issue.

Federal laws need to be passed on MIBs, chain of custody, voter id requirements, ballot reception deadlines, etc...


It would be great to not have yet another massive increase in federal power.

This is why we have the electoral college. The damage from a tainted count is limited to the number of electoral votes of that state and can't usually tip the scales nationally.

Georgians no doubt want their votes to count properly and should be trusted to do so. If in fact 51% or more voted for Trump, then they should be pissed and vote in leaders who will fix it.
 
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