94DCAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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AUDITS of paper ballots confirmed the vote numbers. Someone missed an audit step, but the votes were accurate.

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There were no actual audits done, not in any of the 2020 swing states. The Dominion and other voting systems don't allow that type of audit.

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Please google and research this and don't rely on the MAGA disinformation machine.

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I posted this earlier... But wanted YOU specifically to see it. Here is a thread where test ballots were in the recount.

Then there are 21 more sequential ballots for John Fortuin, but this time, the write ins were 'blank'. Which is actually not even possible on the voting machines. pic.twitter.com/AaBlBBrIf8

— Mad Liberals (@mad_liberals) December 19, 2025

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94DCAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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AUDITS of paper ballots confirmed the vote numbers. Someone missed an audit step, but the votes were accurate.

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There were no actual audits done, not in any of the 2020 swing states. The Dominion and other voting systems don't allow that type of audit.

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Please google and research this and don't rely on the MAGA disinformation machine.

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I posted this earlier... But wanted YOU specifically to see it. Here is a thread where test ballots were in the recount.

Then there are 21 more sequential ballots for John Fortuin, but this time, the write ins were 'blank'. Which is actually not even possible on the voting machines. pic.twitter.com/AaBlBBrIf8

— Mad Liberals (@mad_liberals) December 19, 2025

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This is a twitter poster.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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If non-citizens are voting, they're disenfranchising the rest of us. They do not have the right to vote in American elections. Period.

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Only if they were allowed to vote in the same election as you. So if you voted in Georgia, and Georgia did that, then yes, your vote was diluted.

If you voted in Texas, then your vote was unaffected by an illegal voting in Georgia, but you are well justified in letting your state leaders in Texas know you don't want to see illegals voting in Texas.

Read this and stop being manipulated by bad humans who want to rob you and our country blind.

https://www.amazon.com/Disproven-Unbiased-Campaign-Improve-Elections/dp/B0D161C3B7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1YSQXX1HVJ3TP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VCZ4sFI8C7Lw4blETKsdbQoXl7On_N_CWNkqRiHrLFKyLZMx850omLYiDCexyIHcz7aPWVOOAP_kEVxFrhs1srOpmEtabhnLkGCRrtX5LF-N9iZAxk0-7B86YAo4sxxe.jChpQRpMPr7crYwoeJhvPSAv_bqWKgthQwwyLV5AflQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=disproven&qid=1766173010&sprefix=disproven%2Caps%2C171&sr=8-1

This is the REPUBLICAN operative hired by the Trump Campaign to find the voter fraud in 2020 He meticulously explains why the BIG LIE is impossible. He wrote the book because he knew what a threat the BIG LIE was to our country.

There were also consequences for the SENATE seats. Remember democrats "won" Georgia's seats. And one was forcing a runoff. Perdue would have won outright.

What does that mean? Harris had to cast a lot of ballots breaking 50-50 ties. It's more than the presidency.

He actually says there are many, many different incompatible systems and nothing can be verified

KerrAg76 said:

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He actually says there are many, many different incompatible systems and nothing can be verified

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He also comes to the conclusion that Trump didn't win. The votes weren't there.

AtomicActuator said:

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94DCAg said:

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Supporting the big lie, at this stage, should be criminal.

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It's horse****, but it's constitutionally protected horse*****

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These kind of rage baiting, intentionally misleading, BIG LIE "announcements" are akin to yelling FIRE in a crowded theater. When you know it is false, when you are doing it to confuse the truth and enrage your base--you are indirectly encouraging crimes against our democracy, rule of law and safety. People will die. Our constitutional government will die too.

94DCAg said:

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KerrAg76 said:

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He actually says there are many, many different incompatible systems and nothing can be verified

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He also comes to the conclusion that Trump didn't win. The votes weren't there.

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Well yeah….if the systems can't be verified…..

It's easier to fool a man than convince him he's been fooled.

You guys don't want to hear the truth. Live in your own distorted fact patterns and continue to be pawns of Trump. He's using you to destroy our country and your kid's futures.

PEACE OUT!

94DCAg said:

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AtomicActuator said:

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94DCAg said:

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Supporting the big lie, at this stage, should be criminal.

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It's horse****, but it's constitutionally protected horse*****

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These kind of rage baiting, intentionally misleading, BIG LIE "announcements" are akin to yelling FIRE in a crowded theater. When you know it is false, when you are doing it to confuse the truth and enrage your base--you are indirectly encouraging crimes against our democracy, rule of law and safety. People will die. Our constitutional government will die too.

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Contrary to popular belief, in most cases, it's not going to actually be illegal to yell "fire" in a theater.

And likewise, political speech has always often been about matters of life and death, and yet is the most protected speech there is.

Waiting for the left to admit........

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Waiting for the left to admit........

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Actually, it is much more amusing to me to watch them flail around with the, "Nu-uh!" kid's argument.

Wish we could bump the 2020 Election Day thread. Although a lot of the content was taken down or memory holed from my citations as I researched the subject, it would be interesting to have a trip down memory lane.

aggiehawg said:

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usmcbrooks said:

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Waiting for the left to admit........

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Actually, it is much more amusing to me to watch them flail around with the, "Nu-uh!" kid's argument.

Wish we could bump the 2020 Election Day thread. Although a lot of the content was taken down or memory holed from my citations as I researched the subject, it would be interesting to have a trip down memory lane.

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Risking a few days off for saying this. However, certain powers that be will never allow that.

I know. Was just wishcasting.

2020 election fraud claims are best understood under the framework of Trump as an injured narcissist, and true believers of the fraud as a merging of personal identity into a political movement (MAGA, qanon) that can't accept reality. So here we are again relitigating stupidity.

Malibu said:

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2020 election fraud claims are best understood under the framework of Trump as an injured narcissist, and true believers of the fraud as a merging of personal identity into a political movement (MAGA, qanon) that can't accept reality. So here we are again relitigating stupidity.

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How ya doing Hunter?

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2020 election fraud claims are best understood under the framework of Trump as an injured narcissist, and true believers of the fraud as a merging of personal identity into a political movement (MAGA, qanon) that can't accept reality. So here we are again relitigating stupidity.

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The thing is, Trump clearly doesn't believe his own lies here, as evidenced by the fact that he didn't have the guts to actually defend them in court. He filed a whole bunch of lawsuits as a grand show, and then when he had his day in court, he just folded. Which makes sense given that straight up lying in court can have consequences for you and your attorneys.

I really don't feel like hunting down the specifics case names and documents, but what I remember is at least a couple of cases where the pretrial issue was that Trump didn't actually make a claim in the pleading. He spoke publicly that the case was about one thing, but in the actual documents submitted to the court, he didn't actually say that thing, but something that sounded sort of like it. In the pre-trial hearings, the judge question the attorney on whether or not he was actually making that actionable claim, and the attorney said that he was not.

AtomicActuator said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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If non-citizens are voting, they're disenfranchising the rest of us. They do not have the right to vote in American elections. Period.

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Only if they were allowed to vote in the same election as you. So if you voted in Georgia, and Georgia did that, then yes, your vote was diluted.

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No. Any illegals voting in Georgia are voting in my election. Even with the electoral college. **** that.

They've already stolen congressional representation from red states.

Assuming you aren't from Georgia, no. Those aren't your electors and those aren't your senators.

Mind your own biscuits and life will be gravy.

Or move to Georgia, I'm good with that.

AtomicActuator said:

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I really don't feel like hunting down the specifics case names and documents, but what I remember is at least a couple of cases where the pretrial issue was that Trump didn't actually make a claim in the pleading. He spoke publicly that the case was about one thing, but in the actual documents submitted to the court, he didn't actually say that thing, but something that sounded sort of like it. In the pre-trial hearings, the judge question the attorney on whether or not he was actually making that actionable claim, and the attorney said that he was not.

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Your hate for Trump and your allegiance to "anyone who is blue" is a direct threat to Democracy. Did I do that right?

If you can provide irrefutable proof that, Trump is a Nazi, pedophile, rapist, please provide it. If you can provide irrefutable proof that Charlie Kirk is one in the same, please provide it. The "MAGA Cult" provides receipts for any and all claims, the left does not. Your side just resorts to name calling, political persecution and violence.

There are consequences for actions and the bill is due!

aggiehawg said:

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Here's the deal about Georgia to me. During my deep dive into 2020 election, there were several different lax procedures that easily could have been utilized to sway the election in Georgia. And those went through every single step of the election, even before voting started, up to a year before in fact.

Copies of the entire state's voter rolls were stolen from a polling place in a local election in 2019. Never located nor even investigated. The state of Georgia contracts with Dominion for state-wide and exclusive use for all Georgia elections, primaries and generals in 2019. Was a whole new system using BMDs instead of DREs which were digital only and could not be audited, which was the subject of a long running federal court case. One thing the Dominion contract didn't cover? The state's voter rolls. Those remained the same as the ones stolen and missing.

Then Dominion and the state agreed with Maricopa based Runbeck Election Services to create all of the mail in ballots for the state, using that same compromised voter roll base. Runbeck, as a private company, has no supervision, nor is it subject to state nor federal freedom of information act laws in any state wherein Runbeck provides election services, and there are many such states.

Before the election, there were hundreds of thousands test ballots that were created for certification of the machines by the state before use. No where on those test ballots was it obvious they were not actual ballots. Nor were any of those ballots kept segregated and secured during nor after the testing was done. One other kicker during that testing, because of covid, the state workers performing them had a quarantine period. Guess who was brought in to replace them? Dominion employees.

And all of that was pre-election. Just the tip of the iceberg.

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It is fully expected that Democrats and socialist's would quickly switch to the acceptance gear at the first sign of provable fraud to quickly counter to say, " but that proven fraud was not enough to make a difference in the outcome".

….then along come AggieHawg to rain down Mount St Helens with a flood of additional hot mess.

Well, you just completely changed the subject. The census and apportionment are absolutely, and unavoidably, federal concerns. And now we are flashing back to a debate we had a few days ago, and I'd rather not.

policywonk98 said:

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In my mind, Trumps problem in the 2020 post election fight is that he allowed every single election fraud theory and every water carrier of every theory to go to battle for an all out fight to get the election investigated in each state where numbers where not making sense.

Allowing that to happen in the age of social media was a miscalculation. It muddied the waters and wasted time in having to manage fallout from the crackpot theories which carried over to legitimate issues with the election like this one being reported on here.

Don't get me wrong. Even as someone that was forged in the fires of national political movements and beltway politics, What happened to Trump from 2015-2020 was the most complex multilayered take down of a candidate, nominee, elect, and sitting US president in our nations history. It was run from both inside and outside our government. It was run from all of one political party and a faction of the party that president represented. The answers for how to do battle in that environment didn't really exist, because it had never really been done before. Mostly because a true outsider to the federal government and its two party political system had never made it through to win the top prize.

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Very well said. Trump handled the post 2020 election fight about as badly as possible and fell into every trap. If he had a focused strategy he could have made it work but instead he put the easily dispelled crazy next to the legitimate issues and it gave the Dems and Media all they needed to make it all sound crazy.

94DCAg said:

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Read this and stop being manipulated by bad humans who want to rob you and our country blind.

https://www.amazon.com/Disproven-Unbiased-Campaign-Improve-Elections/dp/B0D161C3B7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1YSQXX1HVJ3TP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VCZ4sFI8C7Lw4blETKsdbQoXl7On_N_CWNkqRiHrLFKyLZMx850omLYiDCexyIHcz7aPWVOOAP_kEVxFrhs1srOpmEtabhnLkGCRrtX5LF-N9iZAxk0-7B86YAo4sxxe.jChpQRpMPr7crYwoeJhvPSAv_bqWKgthQwwyLV5AflQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=disproven&qid=1766173010&sprefix=disproven%2Caps%2C171&sr=8-1

This is the REPUBLICAN operative hired by the Trump Campaign to find the voter fraud in 2020 He meticulously explains why the BIG LIE is impossible. He wrote the book because he knew what a threat the BIG LIE was to our country.

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Is the Twitter Poster lying about the data?

Is the data that the Twitter Poster referenced authentic, but don't prove anything or indicate any cheating?

Trying to understand how you dismiss the information.

94DCAg said:

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He actually says there are many, many different incompatible systems and nothing can be verified

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He also comes to the conclusion that Trump didn't win. The votes weren't there.

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What does he say about these above very suspicious ballots?

Did he know them and not talk about them?

Did he not know about them, and they are irrelevant to his analysis?

AtomicActuator said:

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I really don't feel like hunting down the specifics case names and documents, but what I remember is at least a couple of cases where the pretrial issue was that Trump didn't actually make a claim in the pleading. He spoke publicly that the case was about one thing, but in the actual documents submitted to the court, he didn't actually say that thing, but something that sounded sort of like it. In the pre-trial hearings, the judge question the attorney on whether or not he was actually making that actionable claim, and the attorney said that he was not.

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Of course you don't. I spent thousands of hours watching testimony in hearings (not trials) read hundred and hundreds of eye-witness statements, hundreds and hundreds pages of court opinions plus doing my won research on Runbeck, the contract Georgia had with Dominion, the JSON records from election night when an accretive count suddenly and without explanation lost votes for Trump but added the same amount for Biden.. The reports of the vast majority of election computer experts of their findings (when they were allowed by a court to do so) all saying the same thing. Electronic voting machines are very, very insecure, easily hackable from remote locations and not subject to any meaningful audit...by their design.

Dominion was an obscure Canadian company when the Obama/Holder Justice Department created their American counterpart and then handed them nearly 1/3rd of the electronic voting machine market through a consent decree with ES&S a rival company.

AtomicActuator said:

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Well, you just completely changed the subject. The census and apportionment is absolutely, and unavoidably, a federal concern. And now we are flashing back to a debate we had a few days ago, and I'd rather not.

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How did he change the subject? Dems allow illegal aliens into the country with no consequences. They then allow illegal non citizen immigrants to vote in elections, which, wait for it.....is illegal.
Who cannot vote?

• Non-citizens, including permanent legal residents, cannot vote in federal, state, and most local elections.
• Some people cannot vote after being convicted of a felony or if they are currently serving time for other types of crimes. Rules are different in each state. Check this guide from vote.gov to understand the laws in your state.
• Some people who have a mental disability may not be able to vote. Learn about your voting rights. Rules vary by state.
• U.S. citizens residing in U.S. territories cannot vote for president in the general election.