He could still draw his gun. Pepper spray isn't going to blind the person and doesn't have an immediate impact.

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Muy said:

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Libs, help us understand your hive mind. Why is ICE and Border Patrol there?

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Because Nick Shirley made up a fake story about daycare fraud and Somalis became the target minority of the month, even though >90% of them are here legally

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Are you trying to be serious?

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I thought this was satire, but now I am not so sure.

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Can't help but notice a pattern where a shooting happens, the Left suddenly jumps out of their hiding holes and immediately starts screaming it was unjustified, then the evidence comes out showing it was another dumb Lefty doing dumb things that caused it and suddenly they all disappear again

Let's see what happens this time

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Did you watch the videos?

It's a right. Going for your gun isn't. Not that hard.

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It's a right. Going for your gun isn't. Not that hard.

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hard to go for a gun that's already in the possession of your execution squad

I'm going to look at this later when I can get a bigger screen. Hard to make put the details on my phone. Thanks.

Show me one post where someone said he should be executed for carrying a gun.

I see lots of posts saying he was doing dumb things for someone carrying a gun, but none that he should be shot just for carrying a gun.

Of course, nuance and common sense are dead, so carry on with your strawmen arguments and false contexts.

More from Walz:

Federal officials spin a narrative before facts are gathered

No confidence Trump will do the right thing

This will end when enough people say it will end

Republicans can't find their spine but know they will never win another election

We ask for peace and we get shot in the face

Exercise your First Amendment rights and document it. I know it's risky.

ICE is not law enforcement.

This needs to be the event that makes people say: Enough.

MN DPS: MN law enforcement was not able to do a crime scene investigation because of number of people at the scene. Seemed to blame federal agents for leaving.

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It's a right. Going for your gun isn't. Not that hard.

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hard to go for a gun that's already in the possession of your execution squad

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Because obviously he couldn't possibly have more than 1 gun.

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From the party of "The Most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"? - to the party of state sanctioned executions by masked men. "It's his fault he exercised his 2nd amendment right"

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You don't exercise your Second Amendment right by pulling a gun on a cop. That is quite literally weapons grade stupidity.

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Where do you see a gun pulled?

Edit: what if he had explosive underwear?? What if he had a gun in his sock band? What if he was John wick?? What are we doing??

If the deceased turns out to have been lawfully armed and ICE unlawfully attempted to detain him for filming, does that that mean ICE just executed someone for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights?

The Minneapolis chief of police just stated on CNN via WCCO that they believe the victim did have a permit to carry.

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hard to go for a gun that's already in the possession of your execution squad

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because nobody has ever carried two guns.

Border Patrol should have shot his tires out.

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backintexas2013 said:

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He could still draw his gun. Pepper spray isn't going to blind the person and doesn't have an immediate impact.

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I see a guy who sees a woman get shoved, defends her, gets pepper sprayed, gets jumped. Gets executed.

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You do you

He did. He also had no ID. He can carry all he wants. He can't try to pull it. Carrying alone isn't enough to get shot.

My opinion on this situation is not made up yet with all these videos of these brave incredibly trained ICE officer hero's out here trying to get these criminals off the street to keep us all safe.

I'll continue watching these videos of this guy try to pull out a gun and potentially try to shoot the brave incredibly trained officers. I do hope we can all agree that promoting and protecting criminals isn't a right.

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It's a right. Going for your gun isn't. Not that hard.

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hard to go for a gun that's already in the possession of your execution squad

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Because obviously he couldn't possibly have more than 1 gun.

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Ah ok. "might have a second, imaginary gun" now justifies being executed by the state.

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does that that mean ICE just executed someone for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights?

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only in the minds of people looking to create outrage or have been hypnotized into an outraged state.

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It's a right. Going for your gun isn't. Not that hard.

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hard to go for a gun that's already in the possession of your execution squad

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Thats quite an assumption from tje available videos that

1. The gun the cop is carrying away is a) a gun and b) the dead guys gun
2. Assuming, for the sake of argument, it was the dead guys gun, that the other cops knew the gun had been removed. It was bang bang

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Do you know if he reached for the gun he had? You know he was armed and if he made any movement toward it he should have gotten shot.

If he didn't and it's a bad shoot then arrest the shooter I will say I am wrong. Bet the love on here won't do the same if it comes out he made a ready for his firearm.

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Doesn't really matter if he was reaching in the direction of his gun, given it was an over-escalation of force from the start. ICE officers created the dangerous scenario, not the protester. Do they not teach ICE officers de-escalation techniques? Pepper-spraying someone within seconds of confrontation without any observable indication is going to lead to more situations like this.

Him reaching for his gun, or the perception that he was is a scenario entirely created by these officers that could have easily been avoided.

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Interesting version of YOUR story. Just because you have a permit to do something doesn't mean you get special treatment, nor does that excuse you from bad behavior or in this case maybe drawing it.

I'll be curious if/waiting for when they release the body cam footage to see the situation as a whole.

You should know as a Christian we are all equal, duh.

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My version is the multiple angles I've seen with my own two eyes.

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Ah ok. "might have a second, imaginary gun" now justifies being executed by the state.

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Nobody said that either.

But carry on with your inane logic.

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Ah ok. "might have a second, imaginary gun" now justifies being executed by the state.

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Nobody said that either.

But carry on with your inane logic.

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They're your justifications, not mine, guy

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Interesting version of YOUR story. Just because you have a permit to do something doesn't mean you get special treatment, nor does that excuse you from bad behavior or in this case maybe drawing it.

I'll be curious if/waiting for when they release the body cam footage to see the situation as a whole.

You should know as a Christian we are all equal, duh.

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My version is the multiple angles I've seen with my own two eyes.

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You sir promised to leave. Lying isn't ok to teach those kids of yours. Honor thy word

It does matter to say it doesn't is stupid.

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If the deceased turns out to have been lawfully armed and ICE unlawfully attempted to detain him for filming, does that that mean ICE just executed someone for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights?

The Minneapolis chief of police just stated on CNN via WCCO that they believe the victim did have a permit to carry.

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He wasnt being detained for filming though. He was being detained or at least confronted abiut obstruction.

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backintexas2013 said:

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Do you know if he reached for the gun he had? You know he was armed and if he made any movement toward it he should have gotten shot.

If he didn't and it's a bad shoot then arrest the shooter I will say I am wrong. Bet the love on here won't do the same if it comes out he made a ready for his firearm.

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Doesn't really matter if he was reaching in the direction of his gun, given it was an over-escalation of force from the start. ICE officers created the dangerous scenario, not the protester. Do they not teach ICE officers de-escalation techniques? Pepper-spraying someone within seconds of confrontation without any observable indication is going to lead to more situations like this.

Him reaching for his gun, or the perception that he was is a scenario entirely created by these officers that could have easily been avoided.

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That's not how it works

It doesn't matter how many cops are beating your ass whether it's 1 or 10, you reach for a gun you are done