Minneapolis getting Hot? [Staff Warning. Take Note]

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we will be billing the federal government for the use of the National Guard because they're instigating it

Feds ought to charge Mn for doing the job they refuse to...but if Walz really needs money, I know some local day care "Learing Centers" that have some extra taxpayer cash sloshing around.
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backintexas2013 said:

If it's a bad shoot press charges. I wonder what libs will say if it's proven to be a good shoot.

They are going to burn and loot just as they always do. ITs the way they roll. This "protester" was out in -30+ wind chills with a gun answering the call to burn, bust, or break whatever to deflect attention way from mass corruption by Minn-ST Paul and Minnesota state officials. And to prevent the federal government from enforcing immigration law.

This has been going on day after day night after night in terrible weather conditions. People on both sides are tired, they're pissed, feed-up. The only surprise to this is it didn't happen sooner. Sooo predictable.

And most of the blame goes to the rhetoric of Minnesota leftest politicians trying to save their own asses by deflecting attention away their corruption scandal. Instead their rhetoric only added fuel to the fire. And the bum lefty minions ate it up failing to remember If you grab a gun and go looking for trouble, you'll likely find it.
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Latest reports are stating that the man was actually disarmed immediately.

What justification now?

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ETFan said:

deddog said:

Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

backintexas2013 said:

Do you know if he reached for the gun he had? You know he was armed and if he made any movement toward it he should have gotten shot.

If he didn't and it's a bad shoot then arrest the shooter I will say I am wrong. Bet the love on here won't do the same if it comes out he made a ready for his firearm.

Doesn't really matter if he was reaching in the direction of his gun, given it was an over-escalation of force from the start. ICE officers created the dangerous scenario, not the protester. Do they not teach ICE officers de-escalation techniques? Pepper-spraying someone within seconds of confrontation without any observable indication is going to lead to more situations like this.

Him reaching for his gun, or the perception that he was is a scenario entirely created by these officers that could have easily been avoided.


The scenario was created by tampon Tim and Democrats demonizing ICE. You have people in here calling them the Gestapo. Stupid statements like that lead to bad scenarios and people get killed.

Stop supporting corrupt, Islamist illegals and this doesn't happen.


Turns out all it took to nullify the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments was mean words. I thought the 2A crowd was tougher? Luckily the 2A crowd spans more than one political party.



False premise. Next
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The situation was created by the leftist politicians and media allies who have convinced mentally weak people that they are on the side of justice by being physical obstructionists.
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Well if I was reaching for a weapon that I had then I would get shot. I don't care if it was a Dior branch covidian or someone against covid leftist or right winger. Reach for a weapon and you are going to get shot.

I was ok with the shooting on January 6th. I am at least consistent.
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I always thought the Charlie Brown football bit was overplayed, but I'm reconsidering whether it wasn't incredibly prescient after seeing you and your peers swallow time and again leftwing lies.
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ETFan said:

deddog said:

Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:

backintexas2013 said:

Do you know if he reached for the gun he had? You know he was armed and if he made any movement toward it he should have gotten shot.

If he didn't and it's a bad shoot then arrest the shooter I will say I am wrong. Bet the love on here won't do the same if it comes out he made a ready for his firearm.

Doesn't really matter if he was reaching in the direction of his gun, given it was an over-escalation of force from the start. ICE officers created the dangerous scenario, not the protester. Do they not teach ICE officers de-escalation techniques? Pepper-spraying someone within seconds of confrontation without any observable indication is going to lead to more situations like this.

Him reaching for his gun, or the perception that he was is a scenario entirely created by these officers that could have easily been avoided.


The scenario was created by tampon Tim and Democrats demonizing ICE. You have people in here calling them the Gestapo. Stupid statements like that lead to bad scenarios and people get killed.

Stop supporting corrupt, Islamist illegals and this doesn't happen.


Turns out all it took to nullify the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments was mean words. I thought the 2A crowd was tougher? Luckily the 2A crowd spans more than one political party.



Dems are telling people to go interfere with law enforcement

Please tell us how that isn't designed to cause chaos and get people killed
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It appears there was a tussle over the gun.

That's why from the other angle it looks like the guy is reaching back for his gun
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Aggie4Christ09 said:



American, with a permit, who showed zero aggression.

End of story.

WHere in this press conference does it even mention that he was armed, much less a permit holder? Is there another video with the Police Chief saying he was a lawful permit to carry holder? People on social media saying he was a permit holder doesn't make it so.

Regardless, fighting with LEOs is a sure way to get hurt. Comply and live to protest another day, FAFO and end up in the ground.

Once again review the use of deadly force laws signed into law by Tim Waltz in 2020. Minnesota Statute 609.066.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.066
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2008and1 said:

sam callahan said:

I'm not justifying anything. I don't know all the facts.

I do know that it can't be simplified into whether he was a citizen, whether he was a legal carrier, or whether someone disarmed one weapon prior.

I know there was a fight and a tense situation and with all the chaos, an officer couuld have easily mistaken something else for another gun or not seen a gun taken away.

When you feed into that chaos and fight with cops, bad things can happen.

Want to protest? Fine.

Want to do it in a stupid fashion? Prepare for consequences.


The "cops" literally created this situation shoving a woman filming



Are we just going to pretend that democrats haven't been
Encouraging their dimwit supporters to block ICE

You know why? Because they want this exact scenario where someone dies and now they can grandstand.

I think all of you should resist everywhere. Let's give Darwin a run for his money.
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2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.
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2008and1 said:

sam callahan said:

I'm not justifying anything. I don't know all the facts.

I do know that it can't be simplified into whether he was a citizen, whether he was a legal carrier, or whether someone disarmed one weapon prior.

I know there was a fight and a tense situation and with all the chaos, an officer couuld have easily mistaken something else for another gun or not seen a gun taken away.

When you feed into that chaos and fight with cops, bad things can happen.

Want to protest? Fine.

Want to do it in a stupid fashion? Prepare for consequences.


The "cops" literally created this situation shoving a woman filming



They are licensed federal officers. Why do you put cops in scare quotes? Do you really not realize it's this blatant disregard for the law that is escalating this situation?
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Aglaw97 said:

2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.
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2008and1 said:

Aglaw97 said:

2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?
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Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.
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It should not go unmentioned that those slobbering all over these protestors so easily throw on the ash heap the past and future victims of the illegal violent offender that the Feds were going after in the first place.
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Again…he was in the street filming. Why does this matter
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Looks like democrats finally got a killing they've been hoping for. They are all out in force. Be sure to donate for a golden casket. Remember to stand with the victim!! Resist!!!


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The apologists here acknowledge that we have a constitutional right to protest, right?

Protests by their nature are disruptive. Disruption isn't cause to initiate violence at citizens. If you must remain quiet and meek to be kept from state violence, you have no right to protest.
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deddog said:

2008and1 said:

sam callahan said:

I'm not justifying anything. I don't know all the facts.

I do know that it can't be simplified into whether he was a citizen, whether he was a legal carrier, or whether someone disarmed one weapon prior.

I know there was a fight and a tense situation and with all the chaos, an officer couuld have easily mistaken something else for another gun or not seen a gun taken away.

When you feed into that chaos and fight with cops, bad things can happen.

Want to protest? Fine.

Want to do it in a stupid fashion? Prepare for consequences.


The "cops" literally created this situation shoving a woman filming



Are we just going to pretend that democrats haven't been
Encouraging their dimwit supporters to block ICE

You know why? Because they want this exact scenario where someone dies and now they can grandstand.

I think all of you should resist everywhere. Let's give Darwin a run for his money.


Spot on, the idiots on here are going to find themselves dead as well if they follow through with their logic.
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2008and1 said:

Again…he was in the street filming. Why does this matter


because its not legal and is considered obstruction?
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the agent pushed her because she was standing the road where she has no right to impede traffic and law enforcement. Get out of the freaking road crazy Karen.
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Who?mikejones! said:

2008and1 said:

Aglaw97 said:

2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?


It's on video. For the love just watch it. She isn't "in the street" when he shoves her
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2008and1 said:

Aglaw97 said:

2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


Next time you see the cops arrest someone be sure to jump in and defend them.
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2008and1 said:

Aglaw97 said:

2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


Wow you just have ALL the facts! Tell us all the actions of this woman that day and right before the video starts! That way you can assure us she wasn't illegally harassing federal agents trying to execute their duty

Go on
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schmendeler said:

The apologists here acknowledge that we have a constitutional right to protest, right?

Protests by their nature are disruptive. Disruption isn't cause to initiate violence at citizens. If you must remain quite and meek to be kept from state violence, you have no right to protest.


You just have to not impede by standing in the middle of the street. The sidewalk is right there. Stand on that.
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Wouldn't you know it? Steve Kerr is in town today.


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Gordo14 said:

From the party of "The Most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"? - to the party of state sanctioned executions by masked men. "It's his fault he exercised his 2nd amendment right"

I wholeheartedly believe in the 2nd amendment. I am nowhere near stupid enough to carry as a protestor as I enter an active law enforcement action. Only reason I would ever do that - especially with two magazines - is if I had intent to use my firearm.

What do you think this guy's intent was?

He had the right to carry RESPONSIBLY. He apparently didn't have the ability.
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Once again, we have a situation where armchair analysts can review multiple different angles, multiple times, at slow speeds, and expect an officer to have all that information in real-time.

Suppose it is determined to be a bad shoot?

Can reasonable people not say protesting in this manner is a bad idea? Instead, we have manipulators encouraging it and unstable people following it.

My last confrontation with a cop was when he was arresting my buddy for something he didn't do. The cop made it clear that if I didn't step aside I was going to jail, too. I did step aside because I am not an idiot and I knew it wasnt going to get resolved on the sidewalk.
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2008and1 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

2008and1 said:

Aglaw97 said:

2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?


It's on video. For the love just watch it. She isn't "in the street" when he shoves her


And what was she doing before that. Tell us.

Remember when that other idiot lesbian was innocent too? And we had clowns defending her?
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Who?mikejones! said:

2008and1 said:

Aglaw97 said:

2008and1 said:

So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?


This isn't tianemen square. There is zero justification for this.
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schmendeler said:

The apologists here acknowledge that we have a constitutional right to protest, right?

Protests by their nature are disruptive. Disruption isn't cause to initiate violence at citizens. If you must remain quite and meek to be kept from state violence, you have no right to protest.


You don't get to "disrupt" law enforcement. That makes you a criminal not a protester

The terrible bedroll legal advice you lefty's are believing it's no wonder people are getting hurt
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you do not have the right to impede on my right to move freely in public spaces.
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Truth9911 said:

Seems like a good shoot to me. One less dirty smell liberal around is never a bad thing.


Disgusting.
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