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In reply to schmendeler • 2:09p, 1/24/26
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The apologists here acknowledge that we have a constitutional right to protest, right?

Protests by their nature are disruptive. Disruption isn't cause to initiate violence at citizens. If you must remain quiet and meek to be kept from state violence, you have no right to protest.


Is your position that none of these protests have crossed the line?
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 2:09p, 1/24/26
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AGinHI said:
The Unforgiven said:
So more info has come out now. He has carrying two additional mags and had no ID on him. That dude planning on shooting a lot. And if he got caught make it harder for law enforcement to ID him.

Well...How would you respond to violent, masked, untrained Gestapo?

It's a recipe for disaster.

Well ... Maybe don't be there to antagonize the law enforcement in the first place. Maybe don't carry a loaded gun and then start a physical altercation with them.

And they aren't violent, they're responding in kind to and armed individual who did not follow their orders and started a physical altercation.

And they aren't Gestapo. That's the kind of inflammatory rhetoric that enrages/emboldens the weak minded and provokes these incidents.

The only recipe for disaster is the left wing nutjobs out there protesting federal agents that are doing their jobs, and the Democrat leaders encouraging and enabling bad things to happen.

The use of the term Gestapo is intentionally used to be inflammatory. It is used to incite the useful idiots to create chaos. Unfortunately, this useful idiot was killed and his death will be used in lies by the Democratic Party leadership, while they personally don't give a rat's butt about his death.
This is all about power for the Democrats and about distracting from their obvious fraud.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 2:10p, 1/24/26
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Who?mikejones! said:
2008and1 said:
Again…he was in the street filming. Why does this matter


because its not legal and is considered obstruction?


Don't bother. It's the same screwed up reasoning that leads people to say Renee Good had a right to block the street with her vehicle, create a tense situation, use her vehicle as a weapon and then try and second guess the cops claiming she had a right to do that and didn't deserve to die. No she didn't but she started the entire episode and it could have been avoided.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:10p, 1/24/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
Who?mikejones! said:
2008and1 said:
Aglaw97 said:
2008and1 said:
So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?


This isn't tianemen square. There is zero justification for this.


Another one with ALL the facts! Go on: walk us through all her actions before the camera starts rolling
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2:11p, 1/24/26
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I'm sad for the future. Not necessarily mine, but for my children.

We are a broken culture and society. We cant agree on the simplest of things, like getting rid of criminal illegal aliens.

This man should not have died and he should not have been there.
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In reply to Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag • 2:11p, 1/24/26
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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
backintexas2013 said:
Do you know if he reached for the gun he had? You know he was armed and if he made any movement toward it he should have gotten shot.

If he didn't and it's a bad shoot then arrest the shooter I will say I am wrong. Bet the love on here won't do the same if it comes out he made a ready for his firearm.

Doesn't really matter if he was reaching in the direction of his gun, given it was an over-escalation of force from the start. ICE officers created the dangerous scenario, not the protester. Do they not teach ICE officers de-escalation techniques? Pepper-spraying someone within seconds of confrontation without any observable indication is going to lead to more situations like this.

Him reaching for his gun, or the perception that he was is a scenario entirely created by these officers that could have easily been avoided.


Are we still trying to call these f'ing losers protestors? Quit with these nonsense. These lunatics are ANTIFA paid agitators that are there to impede federal law enforcement and push their narrative. They're looking to incite these incidents
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In reply to Ag4life80 • 2:11p, 1/24/26
Ag4life80 said:
Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.
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In reply to 2008and1 • 2:11p, 1/24/26
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2008and1 said:
Again…he was in the street filming. Why does this matter

Because it is a public road and he's blocking traffic. It's illegal.

He was instructed to vacate and he didn't. All he had to do was comply and follow the cop's instructions. The guy escalated the situation and brought every bit of this on himself.
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2:11p, 1/24/26
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I'm fully supportive of the work ICE is doing. But public perception wise. The administration is losing and will lose the public support on this based on these types of incidences.

1) Because the Progressive Leaders of MN et al are lying about what and why ICE is carrying out their duties
2) Because ICE agents are not trained for protest/crowd control and dangerous incidents like this will happen.
3) Trump and Trumps social media team and some officials are making unnecessarily provocative statements immediately surrounding these extreme situations.

Most Americans want immigration enforcement, they don't want drama and Americans dying in the process. It doesn't matter who is at fault or who did what. General population of the country doesn't what crisis surrounding this stuff. For better or worse that's just general desire of the masses.

Walz et al are absolutely stoking this fire to get these kinds of situations. Right or wrong, the feds have to change tactics to fit the context of their operating environment.

If you are pro immigration enforcement you have to hope Trumps team gets smarter on this. He's losing the American public very quickly on this issue. An issue that was one of his strongest issues.

On a broader note, also related to the church service protesting. I understand the right the peacefully protest. That right does not extend to private property. And I don't know case law on this, but it can't possible extend to the middle of a law enforcement action. Trumps team has to get better at the messaging around that and some how turn this around in a way that clearly impresses on the minds of the American public that the progressive groups are operating way outside of their 1st Amendment rights. Unless they can get a handle on the messaging immigration enforcement will take a huge step backward in the next few years.
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In reply to GMaster0 • 2:11p, 1/24/26
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GMaster0 said:
If the deceased turns out to have been lawfully armed and ICE unlawfully attempted to detain him for filming, does that that mean ICE just executed someone for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights?

The Minneapolis chief of police just stated on CNN via WCCO that they believe the victim did have a permit to carry.

Having a permit to carry alone will not prevent the carrier from being shot to death.
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In reply to sam callahan • 2:11p, 1/24/26
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sam callahan said:
Once again, we have a situation where armchair analysts can review multiple different angles, multiple times, at slow speeds, and expect an officer to have all that information in real-time.

Suppose it is determined to be a bad shoot?

Can reasonable people not say protesting in this manner is a bad idea? Instead, we have manipulators encouraging it and unstable people following it.

My last confrontation with a cop was when he was arresting my buddy for something he didn't do. The cop made it clear that if I didn't step aside I was going to jail, too. I did step aside because I am not an idiot and I knew it wasnt going to get resolved on the sidewalk.


I was stopped by the Gestapo yesterday. I had a gun in the car and there is , a sticker on my car that clearly indicates the person inside is probably armed.

I am non-Caucasian. The gestspo murdered me because I believed in the second amendment. So says a meme on this thread. This must be my ghost posting.
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In reply to Maroon Dawn • 2:11p, 1/24/26
Maroon Dawn said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
Who?mikejones! said:
2008and1 said:
Aglaw97 said:
2008and1 said:
So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?


This isn't tianemen square. There is zero justification for this.


Another one with ALL the facts! Go on: walk us through all her actions before the camera starts rolling


I could tell you the sky is blue and if anyone with Trump said it was brown, you'd fight that it's brown until the day you die.

There's no point.
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2:12p, 1/24/26
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The Left knows the odds are 100% that something bad will happen if they create enough dangerous situations. That's the point here.

Federal law enforcement should never back off because of threats by criminals - the precedent would cause social order to unravel like the Dems Summer of Love 2020.

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2:12p, 1/24/26
Do we realize there is a right to protest?

Yep.

Which is why you should watch this video: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BUZpdMUjy/
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In reply to Satellite of Love • 2:13p, 1/24/26
Satellite of Love said:
Ag4life80 said:
Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.

You have provided NO evidence that shows that law abiding citizens have been "picked up" by ICE. Either put up, or shut up.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 2:13p, 1/24/26
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Who?mikejones! said:
schmendeler said:
The apologists here acknowledge that we have a constitutional right to protest, right?

Protests by their nature are disruptive. Disruption isn't cause to initiate violence at citizens. If you must remain quite and meek to be kept from state violence, you have no right to protest.


You just have to not impede by standing in the middle of the street. The sidewalk is right there. Stand on that.


Stand on the sidewalk! If you're in the street, you're fair game!
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2:13p, 1/24/26
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An immigration enforcement strategy that concentrates unchecked authority in federal hands, relies on intimidation as a primary tool, and repeatedly results in violence against civilians is simply not ok.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:13p, 1/24/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
Who?mikejones! said:
2008and1 said:
Aglaw97 said:
2008and1 said:
So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?


This isn't tianemen square. There is zero justification for this.


Another one with ALL the facts! Go on: walk us through all her actions before the camera starts rolling


I could tell you the sky is blue and if anyone with Trump said it was brown, you'd fight that it's brown until the day you die.

There's no point.


So in other words you know you can't but wanted to pretend like you did. So unexpected
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:13p, 1/24/26
Aggie4Christ09 said:
Who?mikejones! said:
2008and1 said:
Aglaw97 said:
2008and1 said:
So to be clear. Filming officers justifies them assaulting you. Got it.


Some of you willfully ignore the facts and that's why we can't have honest discussions. There are vastly less than 1% of law enforcement agents leads to any action let alone assault. We see time and again agitators filming cops, throwing stuff at them and calling the pigs and the cops do little but to try and de-escalate the situation. And in the extreme minority they overstep the line, then hold them accountable. That's not what happened here.



I mean it is on video. I watch him shove a woman. Then the guy who gets killed steps in to help her. I don't care if she is spewing hateful words at the officer. The violence starts with him.


The guy was in the street. The middle of it. I presume they'd been told to leave and then didn't, so we're removed from the street.

Did you expect the cops to hold the lady's hand?


This isn't tianemen square. There is zero justification for this.


The guy thought it was a game. Its not a game. Federal law enforcement attempting to enforce federal law is not a game.

If you do anything to impede their progress because of what ever self justification you can come up, you severely increase you chances of a harmful encounter that could ultimately be fatal.

You keep saying it wasnt justified. You cant tell that from the video.
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In reply to 2000AgPhD • 2:14p, 1/24/26
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2000AgPhD said:
Satellite of Love said:
Ag4life80 said:
Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.

You have provided NO evidence that shows that law abiding citizens have been "picked up" by ICE. Either put up, or shut up.


Over 100 US citizens have been detained by ICE.

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will
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2:14p, 1/24/26
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Lefty bigs have never blinked at employing their broken toys as cannon fodder.
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:15p, 1/24/26
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schmendeler said:
Who?mikejones! said:
schmendeler said:
The apologists here acknowledge that we have a constitutional right to protest, right?

Protests by their nature are disruptive. Disruption isn't cause to initiate violence at citizens. If you must remain quite and meek to be kept from state violence, you have no right to protest.


You just have to not impede by standing in the middle of the street. The sidewalk is right there. Stand on that.


Stand on the sidewalk! If you're in the street, you're fair game!


MLK wasn't fighting to protect criminals killing young women and make sure the Dems could politically and economically profit off a slave labor class so maybe don't make this dumb comparison
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In reply to bobbranco • 2:15p, 1/24/26
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bobbranco said:
GMaster0 said:
If the deceased turns out to have been lawfully armed and ICE unlawfully attempted to detain him for filming, does that that mean ICE just executed someone for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights?

The Minneapolis chief of police just stated on CNN via WCCO that they believe the victim did have a permit to carry.

Having a permit to carry alone will not prevent the carrier from being shot to death.


You're trying to reason with dramatic, lying and totally unreasonable leftists. They've created the chaos , the result is people dying and they are acting sanctimonious

Remember they don't give a **** about the truth or understand it. They just hate Trump and America. Once you realize that, it all makes sense.
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In reply to The Unforgiven • 2:15p, 1/24/26
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Take it to the recursive logic board.
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:15p, 1/24/26
schmendeler said:
2000AgPhD said:
Satellite of Love said:
Ag4life80 said:
Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.

You have provided NO evidence that shows that law abiding citizens have been "picked up" by ICE. Either put up, or shut up.


Over 100 US citizens have been detained by ICE.

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will

being detained is not having your rights violated. corky
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In reply to David_Puddy • 2:15p, 1/24/26
David_Puddy said:
Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
backintexas2013 said:
Do you know if he reached for the gun he had? You know he was armed and if he made any movement toward it he should have gotten shot.

If he didn't and it's a bad shoot then arrest the shooter I will say I am wrong. Bet the love on here won't do the same if it comes out he made a ready for his firearm.

Doesn't really matter if he was reaching in the direction of his gun, given it was an over-escalation of force from the start. ICE officers created the dangerous scenario, not the protester. Do they not teach ICE officers de-escalation techniques? Pepper-spraying someone within seconds of confrontation without any observable indication is going to lead to more situations like this.

Him reaching for his gun, or the perception that he was is a scenario entirely created by these officers that could have easily been avoided.


Are we still trying to call these f'ing losers protestors? Quit with these nonsense. These lunatics are ANTIFA paid agitators that are there to impede federal law enforcement and push their narrative. They're looking to incite these incidents

I wouldn't call someone out recording to make sure rights aren't violated a loser. That's perfectly within their rights. He wasn't in the way of anyone. If you watch some of the videos. The 300 lb porker agent gets into his face and uses his body to pouch the man back. Just like Good, these agents escalate situations and leave US citizens dead. That evidence that these guys are poorly trained or no training at all is piling up.
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In reply to dmart90 • 2:15p, 1/24/26
dmart90 said:
aggiehawg said:
Meanwhile, in AZ.


The AZ GA is an idiot.

Having said that ICE agents need to unmask. No reason for a LEO to hide their identity. I don't need to be in a situation where I have to guess who I'm dealing with.

And yes, the Antifa pukes that show up masked need to be detained and unmasked.

Agreed
the reason ICE & Immigration officers wear masks is
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Sims said:
Take it to the recursive logic board.


Found the software engineer?
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:16p, 1/24/26
schmendeler said:
2000AgPhD said:
Satellite of Love said:
Ag4life80 said:
Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.

You have provided NO evidence that shows that law abiding citizens have been "picked up" by ICE. Either put up, or shut up.


Over 100 US citizens have been detained by ICE.

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will

OK, and?

1) 100 out of 350mm
2) They have to be in proximity to ICE for this to happen


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schmendeler said:
Stand on the sidewalk! If you're in the street, you're fair game!

We've gone from peaceful protest to 'firey mostly peaceful'. Today's Left is totally down with anarchy and has the balls to make blatantly false comparisons
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Truth9911 said:
schmendeler said:
2000AgPhD said:
Satellite of Love said:
Ag4life80 said:
Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.

You have provided NO evidence that shows that law abiding citizens have been "picked up" by ICE. Either put up, or shut up.


Over 100 US citizens have been detained by ICE.

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will

being detained is not having your rights violated.


I need to have this framed.
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In reply to Satellite of Love • 2:17p, 1/24/26
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Satellite of Love said:
David_Puddy said:
Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
backintexas2013 said:
Do you know if he reached for the gun he had? You know he was armed and if he made any movement toward it he should have gotten shot.

If he didn't and it's a bad shoot then arrest the shooter I will say I am wrong. Bet the love on here won't do the same if it comes out he made a ready for his firearm.

Doesn't really matter if he was reaching in the direction of his gun, given it was an over-escalation of force from the start. ICE officers created the dangerous scenario, not the protester. Do they not teach ICE officers de-escalation techniques? Pepper-spraying someone within seconds of confrontation without any observable indication is going to lead to more situations like this.

Him reaching for his gun, or the perception that he was is a scenario entirely created by these officers that could have easily been avoided.


Are we still trying to call these f'ing losers protestors? Quit with these nonsense. These lunatics are ANTIFA paid agitators that are there to impede federal law enforcement and push their narrative. They're looking to incite these incidents

I wouldn't call someone out recording to make sure rights aren't violated a loser. That's perfectly within their rights. He wasn't in the way of anyone. If you watch some of the videos. The 300 lb porker agent gets into his face and uses his body to pouch the man back. Just like Good, these agents escalate situations and leave US citizens dead. That evidence that these guys are poorly trained or no training at all is piling up.


All the reason to stay out of their way and let them do their jobs.
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In reply to WCrew04 • 2:17p, 1/24/26
WCrew04 said:
An immigration enforcement strategy that concentrates unchecked authority in federal hands, relies on intimidation as a primary tool, and repeatedly results in violence against civilians is simply not ok.


Immigration is solely a federal function.

And let's not forget, the democrats in Minnesota have chosen to not work with the feds, thereby necessitating this sort of enforcement action.

The federal govt has a moral duty to enforce its laws. Us citizens have a moral duty to obey them. That's what out system is built on. When the parties stop doing that, it leads to chaos. Which is where we are now.
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In reply to schmendeler • 2:18p, 1/24/26
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Every bit of this is avoided if the elected officials of Minnesota, who swore under oath to uphold the law, actually did their sworn duty. Then, it's just ICE picking up the bad guys with the aid of local law enforcement.

Except ICE is picking up US citizens too.

You have provided NO evidence that shows that law abiding citizens have been "picked up" by ICE. Either put up, or shut up.


Over 100 US citizens have been detained by ICE.

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-dhs-american-citizens-arrested-detained-against-will

being detained is not having your rights violated.


I need to have this framed.


Maybe frame it next to the definition of "detained" so you know it's not the same as arrested or punished. Citizens get detained every day because the police suspect them of illegal activity.
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