Lib reporters trying to catch administration in a "gotchtya" about 2A. Karoline handled perfectly. You can legally protest and Trump has been the number 1 supporter of 2A right

Turning over all illegals in custody is never going to be a thing to happen by Walz. SNAFU as usual, point for Trump because there's no kinda maybe doing it a little bit. Either all the illegals are turned over or they are not.

They will not turn over deportables upon arrest at local and state level either.

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The Unforgiven said:

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what would you tell Laken Riley?

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I'D TELL HER I THINK ITS SAD THAT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HER MURDER IS BECAUSE OF THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERPETRATOR.

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Should we or should we not deport people who are in the country illegally?

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We should give them citizenship if they are well behaved.

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Not the way this works. Certainly not the way the Biden Administration planned it.

We took the 3rd World's scum, their terrorists, their rapists, their drug lords, sex slavers and spies, yearning to sponge off of me and thee.

Why did we do it?

Because the American left wants to replace a population they are losing ideological control over with permanent dependents beholden exclusively to a centralized, government-managed state and society.

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The surge of criminals illegal aliens is not new.

CubaBrief: Exporting criminals to the United States, to both demonize a migrant population and harm America, did not begin in Venezuela with the Tren de Aragua and Joe Biden in the early 2020s, but in Cuba with the Mariel boatlift and Jimmy Carter in 1980.

• Havana has been successful in downplaying its negative role in the Western hemisphere, but their role in Venezuela cannot be underestimated, nor their decades long involvement in weaponizing migration against the United States.

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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what would you tell Laken Riley?

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I'D TELL HER I THINK ITS SAD THAT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HER MURDER IS BECAUSE OF THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERPETRATOR.

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This is always the most ridiculous sort of point when it's made, because it assumes there is a world where complete strangers will care about your death for purely neutral or altruistic reasons.

Strangers either don't care about your death, or they do care about when it furthers an agenda of theirs. There is no alternative. So it's a completely worthless point to make.

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It's a nothing answer to a nothing question. I'm done with the moral finger wagging. This country has been guilt tripped and fear mongered into allowing an authoritarian takeover. Illegals are mostly well behaved, productive, and have deep ties in their communities. They have been ruthlessly demonized for zero reason.

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I think you are so free and so privileged relative to the totality of human present and historical experience that you have no idea what an "authoritarian takeover" really means or looks like.

And I don't have anything against illegal immigrants who do well here and behave. I would have done the same thing in their position because their native countries are unmitigated hellscapes relative to the US. But the fact remains they ARE illegally here and that IS the only relevant fact with respect to this discussion. They are "demonized" (which is just a histrionic way of you saying people dont like them being here) BECAUSE of that fact.

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Logically impossible.
There are ~6 billion people on the planet. My uneducated guess would be over half would prefer to live here. So by your reasoning we would be forced to to allow 3 billion illegal aliens, that are law abiding into our nation.

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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what would you tell Laken Riley?

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I'D TELL HER I THINK ITS SAD THAT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HER MURDER IS BECAUSE OF THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERPETRATOR.

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This is always the most ridiculous sort of point when it's made, because it assumes there is a world where complete strangers will care about your death for purely neutral or altruistic reasons.

Strangers either don't care about your death, or they do care about when it furthers an agenda of theirs. There is no alternative. So it's a completely worthless point to make.

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It's a nothing answer to a nothing question. I'm done with the moral finger wagging. This country has been guilt tripped and fear mongered into allowing an authoritarian takeover. Illegals are mostly well behaved, productive, and have deep ties in their communities. They have been ruthlessly demonized for zero reason.

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I think you are so free and so privileged relative to the totality of human present and historical experience that you have no idea what an "authoritarian takeover" really means or looks like.

And I don't have anything against illegal immigrants who do well here and behave. I would have done the same thing in their position because their native countries are unmitigated hellscapes relative to the US. But the fact remains they ARE illegally here and that IS the only relevant fact with respect to this discussion. They are "demonized" (which is just a histrionic way of you saying people dont like them being here) BECAUSE of that fact.

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Logically impossible.
There are ~6 billion people on the planet. My uneducated guess would be over half would prefer to live here. So by your reasoning we would be forced to to allow 3 billion illegal aliens, that are law abiding into our nation.

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Also, you can either have social programs or mass immigration. Not both

FireAg said:

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It's worth repeating...

If you conceal carry, your 2A rights are NOT protected if you do so improperly...

You must have your ID and your license with you...

Pretti had neither...his 2A rights are not protected in this situation...

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There wasn't enough time to determine this. They took his handgun then shot him.

What are you all even talking about?

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President Trump: "Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call, and we, actually, seemed to be on a similar wavelength." pic.twitter.com/A7BDw67B9x

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) January 26, 2026

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between this and other news from overnight, looks like this is the trump admin seeking an off-ramp for the minnesota situation. further escalation will only deepen their predicament.

also interesting to see trump send homan in to clean up noem's mess. if push comes to shove, gotta think they'll throw her under the bus.

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That's the third or fourth time I've heard that from different sources...

It appears the talking points were sent out...

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I would not be surprised if this is what MSNBC / CNN / The Guardian is pushing at this point. I'm sure that their entire front pages on their websites are saying exactly this in almost every single article.

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FireAg said:

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It's worth repeating...

If you conceal carry, your 2A rights are NOT protected if you do so improperly...

You must have your ID and your license with you...

Pretti had neither...his 2A rights are not protected in this situation...

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There wasn't enough time to determine this. They took his handgun then shot him.

What are you all even talking about?

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You have no idea. We do know he resisted being detained at minimum. He had a gun on him. He died. Sucks but this is on him. Dont FAFO

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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The Unforgiven said:

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what would you tell Laken Riley?

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I'D TELL HER I THINK ITS SAD THAT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HER MURDER IS BECAUSE OF THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERPETRATOR.

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This is always the most ridiculous sort of point when it's made, because it assumes there is a world where complete strangers will care about your death for purely neutral or altruistic reasons.

Strangers either don't care about your death, or they do care about when it furthers an agenda of theirs. There is no alternative. So it's a completely worthless point to make.

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It's a nothing answer to a nothing question. I'm done with the moral finger wagging. This country has been guilt tripped and fear mongered into allowing an authoritarian takeover. Illegals are mostly well behaved, productive, and have deep ties in their communities. They have been ruthlessly demonized for zero reason.

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I think you are so free and so privileged relative to the totality of human present and historical experience that you have no idea what an "authoritarian takeover" really means or looks like.

And I don't have anything against illegal immigrants who do well here and behave. I would have done the same thing in their position because their native countries are unmitigated hellscapes relative to the US. But the fact remains they ARE illegally here and that IS the only relevant fact with respect to this discussion. They are "demonized" (which is just a histrionic way of you saying people dont like them being here) BECAUSE of that fact.

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Logically impossible.
There are ~6 billion people on the planet. My uneducated guess would be over half would prefer to live here. So by your reasoning we would be forced to to allow 3 billion illegal aliens, that are law abiding into our nation.

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Exactly. and for DB, why, if you think this country has been subjected to an authoritarian takeover are you making the argument for MORE people to come and be subject to the awful authoritarian? Why aren't you on the first plane out of this hellhole and going to one of the multitudes of better countries in the world to live in?

Or could it just be that you're throwing a temper tantrum because you lost an election, that the multitudes that are here illegally are a simple tool to allow your side to regaind and keep power, and that the principles that this country was founded upon are of a lower priority than your personal feelings?

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Wow check out this dude's sig. No one should have to work to survive. Your right to life should not depend solely on your ability to produce capital.

"No one should have to work to survive" WTF! Tells you all you need to know.
True commies have entered the chat.

Note: I am simply posting whats on his handle. And it is relevant to the thread displaying the mentality and politics of posters.

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The second sentence is extremely pertinent to the first. I believe that every person, regardless of race, creed, of belief should have the opportunity to provide for themselves and their loved ones without having to justify their existence. Rooted directly in the teachings of my Lord and Savior. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions.

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Ok. This we can discuss. And yes I agree with much of this. Far better references than your Sig. But in Timothy Paul said "He that doesn't work doesn't eat." Very clear on this point. And what Jesus was talking about was spiritual food. Its clear the disciples worked very hard in both their spiritual development and for providing for their physical needs.

Taking food or whatever if physically able, is theft or gifting. There where plenty of widows and disabled that needed help before physically able men back then and today.

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I agree, you have no right to take food out of another person's mouth just because you are hungry. The root of the issue that I try to acknowledge in my personal beliefs are the hunger itself - and I don't believe that everyone deserves to thrive just because they had the privilege of being born into this world. We have one of the most prosperous nations in the history of humankind, and yet we have people starving, homeless, unable to provide for their children. The amount of that which can be attributed to their own choices in life is one point that is up for debate. We are, at the end of the day, responsible for the health and safety of our loved ones first and foremost, and in any successful community, those who don't work don't eat. But if there comes a time where you find yourself unable to work, that doesn't mean that your value as a human life diminishes.

I believe that as a country we have moved far away from also helping our neighbors. We have been blinded by partisanship and forgotten that civilization does not exist because of the individual, but because of the contribution by the many.

Look simply to the people that have supported and celebrated, cheered and jeered about loss of human life because it's happening to someone they disagree with. Just the same as when Charlie Kirk was assassinated - "thank goodness the person we disagree with is dead!"

We should all be mourning the death of this man. Our hearts should also ache for the agents that had been put in that situation, the scores of people whose lives will never be the same because of the experiences they have had in this tragedy. People rarely make difficult choices because they are enjoyable to make - they feel as though they have been backed into a corner with no other options available.

FireAg said:

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It's worth repeating...

If you conceal carry, your 2A rights are NOT protected if you do so improperly...

You must have your ID and your license with you...

Pretti had neither...his 2A rights are not protected in this situation...

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Also worth repeating that he is not dead because he tried to exercise his 2A rights, he is dead because he sought out ongoing legal federal law enforcement activities and decided to put himself into the middle of them to interfere with agents carrying out their duties. The details of the actual incident are muddy and it looks like a bad shoot in 20/20 hindsight, but the bottom line is that he inserted himself into a situation that had nothing to do with him and did so while armed without identifying as such to the agents involved. When they became aware he had a gun and then the gun went off via an ND as he was disarmed, it sealed his fate.

If he had stayed home, he would be alive today. If he had stood on the sidewalk across the street from the action and blew a whistle, took videos, or held a sign objecting, he would be alive today. If he decided to intervene in the situation, but left his gun in the car before stepping into the fray, he would likely still be alive today. But he didn't. He went across the street for what I am sure he felt were noble reasons, but he did so while carrying a gun, and committed a federal crime in doing so. He was somewhere he didn't belong and he was carrying a gun when he did it, and he died because of an unfortunate accident that occurred while trying to relieve him of that gun.

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FireAg said:

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It's worth repeating...

If you conceal carry, your 2A rights are NOT protected if you do so improperly...

You must have your ID and your license with you...

Pretti had neither...his 2A rights are not protected in this situation...

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There wasn't enough time to determine this. They took his handgun then shot him.

What are you all even talking about?

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Are we assuming there was no interaction between him and the agents before the short video clip we've all been watching?

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Walton is a radical Bernie bro. He's here with new talking points.

These people will stop at nothing to gain power. It doesn't matter how many Americans die, China Tim Walz and all these Marxists will make this as dangerous and violent as possible to keep illegals here. They want the votes Americans won't give them.

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Yes, I'm extremely radical in my belief that the government should have limited and explicit power, that congressional representatives should be composed of people that actually live in the communities they hold power over, and that free speech and the second amendment should be absolute. I know that's very controversial for the boot licking groups you submit to.

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How do you feel about a country's right to secure its own borders, enforce its own laws, and deport everyone that is here illegally?

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I don't believe in open borders if that's what you're alluding to. There has to be a vetting process, we have to ensure homogeneity with the communities that we've established.

Sending out a task force with the sole purpose of "deport as many people as possible" is a moot point until we address the root causes of how they got here, how they're getting here, and most importantly, why they were unable or unwilling to follow the proper channels to do so.

Give unto Caesar.

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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The Unforgiven said:

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what would you tell Laken Riley?

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I'D TELL HER I THINK ITS SAD THAT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE CARE ABOUT HER MURDER IS BECAUSE OF THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERPETRATOR.

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Should we or should we not deport people who are in the country illegally?

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We should give them citizenship if they are well behaved.

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So how many other crimes should this logic apply to? What can I do that is against the law but becomes legally acceptable if I behave in a certain way while committing the crime?

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Crossing the border isn't a violent crime.

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So which crimes are not violent and should have not consequences?

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Many people say doing drugs should be legal.
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Deserve's got nothing to do with anything.

Work for what you have. Help others. Don't take what's mine to satisfy your own lust to help others. What I do with mine is none of your business.

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FireAg said:

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It's worth repeating...

If you conceal carry, your 2A rights are NOT protected if you do so improperly...

You must have your ID and your license with you...

Pretti had neither...his 2A rights are not protected in this situation...

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There wasn't enough time to determine this. They took his handgun then shot him.

What are you all even talking about?

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You continue to simply look at a 45 second clip without taking the totality of the circumstances into consideration!

Until you can do that, you're lost. (Both in your understanding, and in your ability to convince anyone of your argument.)

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FireAg said:

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It's worth repeating...

If you conceal carry, your 2A rights are NOT protected if you do so improperly...

You must have your ID and your license with you...

Pretti had neither...his 2A rights are not protected in this situation...

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There wasn't enough time to determine this. They took his handgun then shot him.

What are you all even talking about?

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He was a paid agitator sent out to keep immigration from deporting criminal such as murders, rapist, and more. F HIM and the people that funded and organized this.

Here is a sample of his protests:

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Old Gorm said:

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If my car was stolen the last thing I would care about is if they were a citizen. It's an irrelevant detail just like any other characteristic. Shutting down the border does not make my life any easier or safer.

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So you believe we should accept illegal criminals because we already have criminals in the country.

Little wonder you guys ended up Knee Pads and Tampon Timmy as your nominees in 2024.

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The only thing that concerns me about immigration policy is if it makes America better or worse. I believe the it makes our country better. If you can find me data that suggests immigration makes our country more dangerous or worse economically, I will gladly change my position.

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You're conflating legal immigration with illegal immigration.

I've asked prob ten members of this board to show where this man interfered with law enforcement or show any sort of aggression, and they just ignore the request while continuing to spew the narrative.

This is pure delusion. Anything to protect Trump. Deeply concerning.

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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Old Gorm said:

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DarkBrandon01 said:

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If my car was stolen the last thing I would care about is if they were a citizen. It's an irrelevant detail just like any other characteristic. Shutting down the border does not make my life any easier or safer.

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So you believe we should accept illegal criminals because we already have criminals in the country.

Little wonder you guys ended up Knee Pads and Tampon Timmy as your nominees in 2024.

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The only thing that concerns me about immigration policy is if it makes America better or worse. I believe the it makes our country better. If you can find me data that suggests immigration makes our country more dangerous or worse economically, I will gladly change my position.

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You're conflating legal immigration with illegal immigration.

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Deliberately so...

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I've asked prob ten members of this board to show where this man interfered with law enforcement or show any sort of aggression, and they just ignore the request while continuing to spew the narrative.

This is pure delusion. Anything to protect Trump. Deeply concerning.

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This is nothing to do with Trump, other you than you brining him up. Its about this:

He is gone and we are better off.

When even a Jake Tapper rolls his eyes at you…

CNN guest says ICE is going to start putting people in ovens: pic.twitter.com/vN7X80Mwfh

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) January 26, 2026

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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WaltonAg18 said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Walton is a radical Bernie bro. He's here with new talking points.

These people will stop at nothing to gain power. It doesn't matter how many Americans die, China Tim Walz and all these Marxists will make this as dangerous and violent as possible to keep illegals here. They want the votes Americans won't give them.

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Yes, I'm extremely radical in my belief that the government should have limited and explicit power, that congressional representatives should be composed of people that actually live in the communities they hold power over, and that free speech and the second amendment should be absolute. I know that's very controversial for the boot licking groups you submit to.

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How do you feel about a country's right to secure its own borders, enforce its own laws, and deport everyone that is here illegally?

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I don't believe in open borders if that's what you're alluding to. There has to be a vetting process, we have to ensure homogeneity with the communities that we've established.

Sending out a task force with the sole purpose of "deport as many people as possible" is a moot point until we address the root causes of how they got here, how they're getting here, and most importantly, why they were unable or unwilling to follow the proper channels to do so.

Give unto Caesar.

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We know why they didn't follow proper channels. if you have been awake at all from 2020 to January of 25 you would be able to acknowledge how 10+ million of them got here. All while VP Kamala was "addressing the root causes" of how they got here. Those 10+ million are here not by accident, but through a planned and executed operation in direct opposition to laws on the books and eminating from the Oval Office itself.

To make an analogy, You seem to not want to treat cancer until we find the cure for cancer.

Your reading compression is pathetic as I read multiple folks explaining to you but you obviously are beyond help. Time for you to move on.

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I've asked prob ten members of this board to show where this man interfered with law enforcement or show any sort of aggression, and they just ignore the request while continuing to spew the narrative.

This is pure delusion. Anything to protect Trump. Deeply concerning.

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He put his hand on an officer carrying out duties. He tried to intervene, even in a positive way, to help someone ICE was engaged with. These don't warrant him being shot. But he did interfere. Those are both no-no's. Leave them alone. Stay out of it. Especially if armed.