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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:14p, 1/26/26
Aggie4Christ09 said:
jrdaustin said:
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The Unforgiven said:
Please see the pictures in this tweet. It was before the scuffle. At this time he should have told the agent he was interacting with that he had a gun. You don't hide that fact when interacting with a law enforcement officer. It is for your safety as much as the officer. Why didn't he tell the agent then? You have the right to carry at a protest but you have to be responsible. If he would have told that agent he had a gun, he would still be alive today. That way there isn't a misunderstanding and everyone knows everyone is armed.


A4C, look at the pictures in this x post. LOOK AT IT! Who is the aggressor? Who is the aggressor concealing a weapon? And why is law enforcement even having to deal with him, if he's not interfering?

And then stop accusing this board of ignoring your allegation that your simple questions are being ignored.

Aggie4Christ, asked and answered. Multiple times. Please stop trolling the board, and answer a few questions yourself rather than barfing up the same tired assertions 114 times.


Wait so those still shots where he's holding a cell phone on the side walk are what constitutes impeding a federal officer?

Not to mention the ice guy aggressively came up to him.

That is not evidence.

The laws are extensive what constitutes impeding......check the laws. Yes being in the face of a federal officer is on the list
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:15p, 1/26/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
David_Puddy said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
I'm still waiting for anyone to back to their claims on what this ICU nurse was doing to deserve this. Any evidence whatsoever of interference, hostile intent.


ANYTHING


Plenty of people have, you just choose to continue to ignore them. Trying to direct traffic to block and impede law enforcement is interfering with an active investigation. Doing it while carrying a gun is pure insanity.


No. They haven't. At all.


What's your denomination?
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:15p, 1/26/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
I'm still waiting for anyone to back to their claims on what this ICU nurse was doing to deserve this. Any evidence whatsoever of interference, hostile intent.


ANYTHING

He interfered when he interacted with them during a law enforcement operation. Same with the dude with a camera yelling at them.

And there are very, very good reasons for those laws as they protect both citizens, law enforcement and even the perps. It is all MUCH safer when methhead porch dweller is not telling LEOs what they can and cannot do. It is a whole hell of a lot safer when arm citizens working to hide their identify assault law enforcement then resist arrest.

Did he deserve to die? I don't think anyone has said that. Is he responsible for his own death? 100%.

His presence whilst arm and without ID was unlawful. His choice of sidearm and having a round chambered was another dumb decision, though in itself lawful. But then he engaged law enforcement which is interference and obstruction in that moment. He then physically engaged and that is assault in every corner of America.

Now quit trolling the board with nonsense and repetitive demands that people explain things to you over and over again.
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In reply to TAMUallen • 2:16p, 1/26/26
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TAMUallen said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
David_Puddy said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
I'm still waiting for anyone to back to their claims on what this ICU nurse was doing to deserve this. Any evidence whatsoever of interference, hostile intent.


ANYTHING


Plenty of people have, you just choose to continue to ignore them. Trying to direct traffic to block and impede law enforcement is interfering with an active investigation. Doing it while carrying a gun is pure insanity.


No. They haven't. At all.


What's your denomination?

$3.

Makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
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In reply to DarkBrandon01 • 2:16p, 1/26/26
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If my car was stolen the last thing I would care about is if they were a citizen. It's an irrelevant detail just like any other characteristic. Shutting down the border does not make my life any easier or safer.

So you believe we should accept illegal criminals because we already have criminals in the country.

Little wonder you guys ended up Knee Pads and Tampon Timmy as your nominees in 2024.


The only thing that concerns me about immigration policy is if it makes America better or worse. I believe the it makes our country better. If you can find me data that suggests immigration makes our country more dangerous or worse economically, I will gladly change my position.


The United States of America currently lets in nearly 1,000,000 LEGAL immigrants per year, far more than any other nation. Why do we need more? Why should we admit those who won't follow the most basic rules of immigration ahead of those who have worked hard for the privilege and done it right?
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:16p, 1/26/26
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What year did you graduate from Texas A&M?
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:16p, 1/26/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
David_Puddy said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
I'm still waiting for anyone to back to their claims on what this ICU nurse was doing to deserve this. Any evidence whatsoever of interference, hostile intent.


ANYTHING


Plenty of people have, you just choose to continue to ignore them. Trying to direct traffic to block and impede law enforcement is interfering with an active investigation. Doing it while carrying a gun is pure insanity.


No. They haven't. At all.

It's literally in your quoted post.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:17p, 1/26/26
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BigRobSA said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
He showed up with a gun. He interfered with a law enforcement operation. He got killed. End of story.

I can think of several other choices he could have made to prevent this.


114th request. Where does he interfere?

He is in the middle of the road, directing traffic to impede ICE vehicles. Interference.

He interjects himself between chick-push agent and chick. Interference.


Can I see video of that?

Even if he did, what constitutes getting murdered?

Do you all advocate for a police state? If they were in your town would you be okay with if?

Nothing he did in my answer deserved death. And, every video posted on here has shown those actions to be the case.

He wasn't murdered. That is an idiotic trope from small-minded morons. His death was a tragic mistake, all of his own doing.

- He wasn't knowledgeable about guns and bought the most well-known, ****-tastic gun that is known to just go off.

- He interjected himself, without telling officers that he had a weapon. Probably because he knew he was breaking the laws around concealed carry.

- When he was being restrained, the weapon became evident and an agent grabbed it to remove it from the scene. It went off unexpectedly and the agents' training (from years as LEOs/Agents/Military) kicked in and they shot the guy. Tragic accident.

- Had he been smart, and not went to "protest" the legal activities of ICE, he'd still be alive, rage-texting his dislike of arresting criminals.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:18p, 1/26/26
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Filming is okay as long as your action doesn't warn the subject. Also intention matters. The anti ice watch groups whole purpose is to warn illegal aliens so they don't get caught. If you are quietly filming at a safe distance from the law enforcement activity. If law enforcement tells you to get out of the road, get out of the road as fast as possible as you can. No one has the right to stand in middle of the road without a permit or you work for the government
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In reply to Dirty_Mike&the_boys • 2:18p, 1/26/26
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
I mentioned it before, someone needs to find out if there's any actual connection to Vance Luther Boelter and Waltz other than his appointment. All this scandal involving healthcare in Minnesota and this was the only Dem that voted against the very thing that enabled the Somalis to scam the taxpayers of billions of dollars




This crossed my mind the other day after everything started to come out with Waltz and his connection to fraud, fraud supported political organizations and encouraging "protesters". Maybe Boelters crazy letter to the FBI about Waltz directing the killings isn't so crazy after all..
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In reply to will25u • 2:18p, 1/26/26
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More cannon fodder for the democrats. They are willing to have as many white people killed as it takes in order to keep the financial and voter fraud going.
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In reply to BigRobSA • 2:20p, 1/26/26
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BigRobSA said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
BigRobSA said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
He showed up with a gun. He interfered with a law enforcement operation. He got killed. End of story.

I can think of several other choices he could have made to prevent this.


114th request. Where does he interfere?

He is in the middle of the road, directing traffic to impede ICE vehicles. Interference.

He interjects himself between chick-push agent and chick. Interference.


Can I see video of that?

Even if he did, what constitutes getting murdered?

Do you all advocate for a police state? If they were in your town would you be okay with if?

Nothing he did in my answer deserved death. And, every video posted on here has shown those actions to be the case.

He wasn't murdered. That is an idiotic trope from small-minded morons. His death was a tragic mistake, all of his own doing.

- He wasn't knowledgeable about guns and bought the most well-known, ****-tastic gun that is known to just go off.

- He interjected himself, without telling officers that he had a weapon. Probably because he knew he was breaking the laws around concealed carry.

- When he was being restrained, the weapon became evident and an agent grabbed it to remove it from the scene. It went off unexpectedly and the agents' training (from years as LEOs/Agents/Military) kicked in and they shot the guy. Tragic accident.

- Had he been smart, and not went to "protest" the legal activities of ICE, he'd still be alive, rage-texting his dislike of arresting criminals.

THIS.
It doesn't matter if you thought you were being righteous, or on the "right" side. When tragedies like this happen, and it is tragic, it is usually caused by a series of poor choices and decisions, not all your own. He put himself in a bad position that he couldn't ultimately control.
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2:21p, 1/26/26
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The whole 'liberals pretending not to understand things" schtick on this thread has grown tiresome.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:21p, 1/26/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
BigRobSA said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
He showed up with a gun. He interfered with a law enforcement operation. He got killed. End of story.

I can think of several other choices he could have made to prevent this.


114th request. Where does he interfere?

He is in the middle of the road, directing traffic to impede ICE vehicles. Interference.

He interjects himself between chick-push agent and chick. Interference.


Can I see video of that?

Even if he did, what constitutes getting murdered?

Do you all advocate for a police state? If they were in your town would you be okay with if?

You asked for evidence of interference...we gave them to you...

Since you lost that argument, you immediately jump to "well okay, but does that mean he deserved to die?'

You can't keep moving the goalposts...

You asked if he even interfered...several people have given specific examples of him interfering...

And the issue is not whether he "deserved" to die...the issue is he made several poor choices that day which put him at extreme risk of being seriously hurt or killed...

No one was out to "execute" this dumbass...he unlawfully inserted himself into a lawful operation and was unfortunately killed in the process...

If he makes just ONE better choice that day, he is still alive...
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2:22p, 1/26/26
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Talking point that has been repeated by every guest on MSNOW over the past hour...

The ICE officers are not properly trained. Heard it yesterday too from Klobuchar as she said new agents get 47 days of training and that is because Trump wanted that number.

Gallego saying ICE is only trained to watch the boarder and inspect shipping containers.

Now returning to normally schedule programming. **** me the libs are delusional.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:23p, 1/26/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
jrdaustin said:
jrdaustin said:
The Unforgiven said:
Please see the pictures in this tweet. It was before the scuffle. At this time he should have told the agent he was interacting with that he had a gun. You don't hide that fact when interacting with a law enforcement officer. It is for your safety as much as the officer. Why didn't he tell the agent then? You have the right to carry at a protest but you have to be responsible. If he would have told that agent he had a gun, he would still be alive today. That way there isn't a misunderstanding and everyone knows everyone is armed.


A4C, look at the pictures in this x post. LOOK AT IT! Who is the aggressor? Who is the aggressor concealing a weapon? And why is law enforcement even having to deal with him, if he's not interfering?

And then stop accusing this board of ignoring your allegation that your simple questions are being ignored.

Aggie4Christ, asked and answered. Multiple times. Please stop trolling the board, and answer a few questions yourself rather than barfing up the same tired assertions 114 times.


Wait so those still shots where he's holding a cell phone on the side walk are what constitutes impeding a federal officer?

Not to mention the ice guy aggressively came up to him.

That is not evidence.

Agressively? You don't know that.

Why was Pretti approached at all? Unless his actions were directly interfering with an ongoing law enforcement action. FYI, they weren't there for him. He showed up to harrass THEM. That's documented.

I see the officer placing his hand low on Pretti's abdomen to make space as he's being confronted by Pretti. You may see something different, but to deny that it's evidence of interference is simply disengenuous.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:26p, 1/26/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
I'm still waiting for anyone to back to their claims on what this ICU nurse was doing to deserve this. Any evidence whatsoever of interference, hostile intent.


ANYTHING

His intent? Completely irrelevant. Does not matter.

Neither does a value judgment of "deserving" anything. Hindsight. Not allowed in use of force analysis.

The ONLY relevant question is would a reasonable officer perceive an imminent deadly or serious body harm threat? There were 5-6 officers actively involved. Did they each perceive such a level of threat?
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 2:28p, 1/26/26
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flown-the-coop said:
Talking point that has been repeated by every guest on MSNOW over the past hour...

The ICE officers are not properly trained. Heard it yesterday too from Klobuchar as she said new agents get 47 days of training and that is because Trump wanted that number.

Gallego saying ICE is only trained to watch the boarder and inspect shipping containers.

Now returning to normally schedule programming. **** me the libs are delusional.

Wow…..just wow. Even that tool doesn't know what DHS agencies do what duties. Then, to double down, an agency that does undercover work world-wide and detention operations domestically needs crowd control training WHEN THE #$&@ING CROWDS SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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aggiehawg said:
Aggie4Christ09 said:
I'm still waiting for anyone to back to their claims on what this ICU nurse was doing to deserve this. Any evidence whatsoever of interference, hostile intent.


ANYTHING

His intent? Completely irrelevant. Does not matter.

Neither does a value judgment of "deserving" anything. Hindsight. Not allowed in use of force analysis.

The ONLY relevant question is would a reasonable officer perceive an imminent deadly or serious body harm threat? There were 5-6 officers actively involved. Did they each perceive such a level of threat?


Facts dont matter to that troll. Still think the username is pure mocking trolling in nature
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2:30p, 1/26/26



(Cue The Doors "This is the end")
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Rockdoc said:
What year did you graduate from Texas A&M?

I doubt he did. Just a reddit keyboard warrior who arrived here in September of last year.
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The good news is that you have never been wrong in predicting the demise of a Trump cabinet member. That is, since the last time you were wrong.

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Rockdoc said:
What year did you graduate from Texas A&M?

I doubt he did. Just a reddit keyboard warrior who arrived here in September of last year.

Oh I doubt it too, but if so he can get his AgTag.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:32p, 1/26/26
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I'm still waiting for anyone to back to their claims on what this ICU nurse was doing to deserve this. Any evidence whatsoever of interference, hostile intent.


ANYTHING


Not even sure why we waste our time with you.

Did he deserve to get shot? No. It's very sad and disturbing.

But…:

Fact: he was part of an organized group who's goal is to INTERFERE with ice

Fact: the moment he went to help the girl that got pushed, he was interfering. Whether you think so or not, the law says HE WAS. Obviously not your definition, but it is the law.

Fact: he'd be alive today if he would not have brought a loaded gun to a "peaceful" protest. Dumb dumb dumb

Finally, would I be ok if this was going down in my state ? Oh hell yes! I live in Austin and if there was corruption and crime going on like Minn, they can arrest them all and if anyone is stupid enough to bring a gun to an event like this, things may not go well for you if you even get close to the ICE agents.

By the way, the ICE agents in my opinion should be in big trouble for this. But I can understand how it happens. They are in a lose lose situation and on edge, big time.

He F'd around and found out, sadly.

When you support the protesters, you support everything I'm starting to hate about America. Waltz has blood on his hands for stirring **** up.

Your president poopy pants has blood on his hands too
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2:33p, 1/26/26
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No liberal cares when someone dies at the hand of any illegal. This is all kabuki theater.
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In reply to Aggie4Christ09 • 2:33p, 1/26/26
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
Ellis Wyatt said:
He showed up with a gun. He interfered with a law enforcement operation. He got killed. End of story.

I can think of several other choices he could have made to prevent this.


114th request. Where does he interfere?

Question asked and answered multiple times. You are trolling at this point. Move on to your next talking point. That one is obsolete.
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In reply to captkirk • 2:34p, 1/26/26
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The whole 'liberals pretending not to understand things" schtick on this thread has grown tiresome.

I've challenged those to go and interfere with law enforcement while they conduct an active scene. Guess non of them want to leave their warm homes. Offer still stands. Hell... I'll even give locations where an active scene will be hot with plenty of LEO's around to harass intimidate or threaten. I only ask that you video record your encounter for education purposes.
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Aggie4Christ09 said:
The Unforgiven said:
Warning the law enforcement's subject that law enforcement is around is interfering with law enforcement activity. If the subject gets away because of your action, then you interfered.

The whole purpose of following agents is to prevent agents from getting their subjects.


Wow. We are really going here now.



So should this guy have been arrested like ICE did? Standing on his patio filming? This is interference also?

If he was actually arrested and booked, then he would most definitely be released with no charges. All you saw was a quick video and you are using it to make some grand statement.

If an agent does something illegal while in Minnesota, you get the badge number and file an official complaint or take care of it civilly.

But this bull**** where you have insurrectionists surrounding federal officers, attacking federal officers, impeding federal officers in their official duties, and then resisting arrest? I'm sorry, but you are dealing with PEOPLE. These federal officers are sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, brothers, and sisters. They did not escalate this. The insurrectionists who have flooded that city are responsible for the escalation.

When dealing with the fog of war these insurrectionists are creating, sometimes the wrong person is detained or arrested. These federal officers, who are only human, have the capacity to make mistakes. You only increase the chance for tragedy when you attack them and hunt them down.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you go to a very woke/liberal church.
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No liberal cares when someone dies at the hand of any illegal. This is all kabuki theater.

They see it as a necessity in accomplishing their goals.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
I mentioned it before, someone needs to find out if there's any actual connection to Vance Luther Boelter and Waltz other than his appointment. All this scandal involving healthcare in Minnesota and this was the only Dem that voted against the very thing that enabled the Somalis to scam the taxpayers of billions of dollars




This crossed my mind the other day after everything started to come out with Waltz and his connection to fraud, fraud supported political organizations and encouraging "protesters". Maybe Boelters crazy letter to the FBI about Waltz directing the killings isn't so crazy after all..

Hortman sounded fearful after voting to repeal healthcare for illegal aliens

Almost as if she knew that her base would become unhinged

She and her husband were tragically shot and killed. A targeted attack, IMHO per Gov. Walz. Boelter said Waltz ordered it. That's no defense for his actions so why else would he say that

Was her vote the motive?

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2:37p, 1/26/26
Wow, some scary stuff. My gratitude to law enforcement goes up and up when I see sheet like this.
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