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txags92 said:

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He showed up with a gun. He interfered with a law enforcement operation. He got killed. End of story.

I can think of several other choices he could have made to prevent this.


114th request. Where does he interfere?

Inserting himself into the action is his interference.

That's the 114th answer, and someone still isn't listening.

He is a troll. Just stop responding to his badgering and flag him for trolling when he keeps demanding answers and proof that have been repeatedly provided already.



I suspect he has gone back to whatever Reddit channel he came from and told all his buddies how much he owned this place.
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jteAg said:

B-1 83 said:

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Hypocrisy of the highest order

Hardly the "Gottcha" you think it is. The most ardent 2A defenders will tell you with that right to carry comes responsibility and there are rules. No ID and not resisting arrest with a federal LEO are among those.

Cluelessness of the highest order.


Still refusing to watch the video?

How could he have given them an ID? He was pushed to the ground and maced. Never touched his weapon. Had it removed. Then was murdered. Within about 30 seconds?


How can any reasonable person watch the videos and go "yep, he messed up" and not "wtf are those agents doing?".

Fake ass 2A'ers.

Apparently he was not carrying any ID (as required). How can any reasonable person think those agents just decided to shoot him with zero reason?


please, all on here saying he had no ID...after watching the video's, when was he ASKED to produce an ID?, was it before he went to help the woman pushed down by it ICE officer, was it while he was being maced, was it while he had 6 ICE officers on top of him, hitting him with some kind of metal object, was it after the dude takes his weapon, was it before he was shot 10 times... when???

As you describe, it doesn't in itself prove the officers were at fault. What it may show is this unfortunate useful idiot's intent. It most certainly proves his ignorance or distain of the law.
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huskerag2011 said:

FireAg said:

samurai_science said:

FireAg said:

eric76 said:

FireAg said:

He was in illegal possession of a concealed firearm and then put himself in a situation that put his life at great risk, very much in part due to the illegal firearm, and he paid for his choice with his life...

Cites?

Reports are that he had a license to carry.

Allegedly he did...however, it was not with him at the time...nor was his ID...

MN CHL laws require you have photo ID and your license with you at all times if you are carrying a concealed firearm...

One of the talking points was you didnt need your ID with you, i guess that was debunked?

The Minnesota law is CRYSTAL CLEAR: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/624.714

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624.714 CARRYING OF WEAPONS WITHOUT PERMIT; PENALTIES.
Subdivision 1.

[Repealed, 2003 c 28 art 2 s 35; 2005 c 83 s 1]
Subd. 1a.Permit required; penalty.

A person, other than a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1, who carries, holds, or possesses a pistol in a motor vehicle, snowmobile, or boat, or on or about the person's clothes or the person, or otherwise in possession or control in a public place, as defined in section 624.7181, subdivision 1, paragraph (c), without first having obtained a permit to carry the pistol is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. A person who is convicted a second or subsequent time is guilty of a felony.

Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.

(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1.



I find it interesting that you cut off your quote right before the part that describes the penalty for carrying a concealed firearm without a permit, so here, I'll give you the whole section to make sure we're all clear on what the Minnesota law says about carrying without the permit.
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Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.

(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. A violation of this paragraph is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.
(b) A citation issued for violating paragraph (a) must be dismissed if the person demonstrates, in court or in the office of the arresting officer, that the person was authorized to carry the pistol at the time of the alleged violation.
(c) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder must write a sample signature in the officer's presence to aid in verifying the person's identity.
(d) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder shall disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.

Wait a minute, so you're saying it's a petty misdemeanor with a maximum fine of $25, with mandatory dismissal of citation upon showing that they had a permit at the time of the citation?

In a world where facts mattered, this information would lead to some reassessments...

If people were saying he should have been murdered for not having his permit, you would be correct. But that is not what is happening, so your little "gotcha" is meaningless. He was committing a felony by interfering with law enforcement...while carrying a weapon that he was not complying with the law for carrying (regardless of what type of penalty that entails). The shooting itself appears to have been a tragic mistake caused by the ND of the weapon he was carrying that is known to be defective and capable of such NDs. But the acts precipating the confrontation were all the fault of the dead guy. If he had stayed on the other side of the road to protest or left his gun in the car while heading over to confront the ICE officers, he would almost certainly be alive today.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Welp, there went that talking point.

I had assumed but did not verify that the policy would closely follow the Graham v. Conner standards as nearly every LEO manual does.

But what got Chauvin was that his superiors testified (falsely) that their police manual did not teach that maximum restraint technique. Now, violating department policy is not the same as criminal conduct in the slightest but can be part of the totality of the circumstances. Being disciplined for violation of internal policy is far different issue than criminal responsibility.

Here, it would appear the officer who had pulled his weapon was behind Pretti and could not see his hands so when the shot rang out, his snap judgment was that Pretti had fired. So he may be on leave pending the investigation but doubt he will face any disciplinary action.
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txags92 said:

huskerag2011 said:

FireAg said:

samurai_science said:

FireAg said:

eric76 said:

FireAg said:

He was in illegal possession of a concealed firearm and then put himself in a situation that put his life at great risk, very much in part due to the illegal firearm, and he paid for his choice with his life...

Cites?

Reports are that he had a license to carry.

Allegedly he did...however, it was not with him at the time...nor was his ID...

MN CHL laws require you have photo ID and your license with you at all times if you are carrying a concealed firearm...

One of the talking points was you didnt need your ID with you, i guess that was debunked?

The Minnesota law is CRYSTAL CLEAR: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/624.714

Quote:

624.714 CARRYING OF WEAPONS WITHOUT PERMIT; PENALTIES.
Subdivision 1.

[Repealed, 2003 c 28 art 2 s 35; 2005 c 83 s 1]
Subd. 1a.Permit required; penalty.

A person, other than a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1, who carries, holds, or possesses a pistol in a motor vehicle, snowmobile, or boat, or on or about the person's clothes or the person, or otherwise in possession or control in a public place, as defined in section 624.7181, subdivision 1, paragraph (c), without first having obtained a permit to carry the pistol is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. A person who is convicted a second or subsequent time is guilty of a felony.

Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.

(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1.



I find it interesting that you cut off your quote right before the part that describes the penalty for carrying a concealed firearm without a permit, so here, I'll give you the whole section to make sure we're all clear on what the Minnesota law says about carrying without the permit.
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Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.

(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. A violation of this paragraph is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.
(b) A citation issued for violating paragraph (a) must be dismissed if the person demonstrates, in court or in the office of the arresting officer, that the person was authorized to carry the pistol at the time of the alleged violation.
(c) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder must write a sample signature in the officer's presence to aid in verifying the person's identity.
(d) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder shall disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.

Wait a minute, so you're saying it's a petty misdemeanor with a maximum fine of $25, with mandatory dismissal of citation upon showing that they had a permit at the time of the citation?

In a world where facts mattered, this information would lead to some reassessments...

If people were saying he should have been murdered for not having his permit, you would be correct. But that is not what is happening, so your little "gotcha" is meaningless. He was committing a felony by interfering with law enforcement...while carrying a weapon that he was not complying with the law for carrying (regardless of what type of penalty that entails). The shooting itself appears to have been a tragic mistake caused by the ND of the weapon he was carrying that is known to be defective and capable of such NDs. But the acts precipating the confrontation were all the fault of the dead guy. If he had stayed on the other side of the road to protest or left his gun in the car while heading over to confront the ICE officers, he would almost certainly be alive today.

Exactly...
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flown-the-coop said:

Talking point that has been repeated by every guest on MSNOW over the past hour...

The ICE officers are not properly trained. Heard it yesterday too from Klobuchar as she said new agents get 47 days of training and that is because Trump wanted that number.

Gallego saying ICE is only trained to watch the boarder and inspect shipping containers.

Now returning to normally schedule programming. **** me the libs are delusional.
They're not just delusional. They're intentionally being disruptive by trolling. Stop engaging them. You're just playing their game.
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captkirk said:



CNN just reported that Trump is removing Bovino and much of his agents from MSP starting tomorrow.

Sounds like TACOed once again. This will do nothing but embolden the Democrats and antifa.
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FireAg said:

txags92 said:

huskerag2011 said:

FireAg said:

samurai_science said:

FireAg said:

eric76 said:

FireAg said:

He was in illegal possession of a concealed firearm and then put himself in a situation that put his life at great risk, very much in part due to the illegal firearm, and he paid for his choice with his life...

Cites?

Reports are that he had a license to carry.

Allegedly he did...however, it was not with him at the time...nor was his ID...

MN CHL laws require you have photo ID and your license with you at all times if you are carrying a concealed firearm...

One of the talking points was you didnt need your ID with you, i guess that was debunked?

The Minnesota law is CRYSTAL CLEAR: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/624.714

Quote:

624.714 CARRYING OF WEAPONS WITHOUT PERMIT; PENALTIES.
Subdivision 1.

[Repealed, 2003 c 28 art 2 s 35; 2005 c 83 s 1]
Subd. 1a.Permit required; penalty.

A person, other than a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1, who carries, holds, or possesses a pistol in a motor vehicle, snowmobile, or boat, or on or about the person's clothes or the person, or otherwise in possession or control in a public place, as defined in section 624.7181, subdivision 1, paragraph (c), without first having obtained a permit to carry the pistol is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. A person who is convicted a second or subsequent time is guilty of a felony.

Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.

(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1.



I find it interesting that you cut off your quote right before the part that describes the penalty for carrying a concealed firearm without a permit, so here, I'll give you the whole section to make sure we're all clear on what the Minnesota law says about carrying without the permit.
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Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.

(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. A violation of this paragraph is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.
(b) A citation issued for violating paragraph (a) must be dismissed if the person demonstrates, in court or in the office of the arresting officer, that the person was authorized to carry the pistol at the time of the alleged violation.
(c) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder must write a sample signature in the officer's presence to aid in verifying the person's identity.
(d) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder shall disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.

Wait a minute, so you're saying it's a petty misdemeanor with a maximum fine of $25, with mandatory dismissal of citation upon showing that they had a permit at the time of the citation?

In a world where facts mattered, this information would lead to some reassessments...

If people were saying he should have been murdered for not having his permit, you would be correct. But that is not what is happening, so your little "gotcha" is meaningless. He was committing a felony by interfering with law enforcement...while carrying a weapon that he was not complying with the law for carrying (regardless of what type of penalty that entails). The shooting itself appears to have been a tragic mistake caused by the ND of the weapon he was carrying that is known to be defective and capable of such NDs. But the acts precipating the confrontation were all the fault of the dead guy. If he had stayed on the other side of the road to protest or left his gun in the car while heading over to confront the ICE officers, he would almost certainly be alive today.

Exactly...


Oh I thought he was helping a lady that got pushed to the ground. I guess I saw the wrong video.
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If it was a peaceful protest, what was that guy doing carrying a gun?
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Geminiv said:

FireAg said:

txags92 said:

huskerag2011 said:

FireAg said:

samurai_science said:

FireAg said:

eric76 said:

FireAg said:

He was in illegal possession of a concealed firearm and then put himself in a situation that put his life at great risk, very much in part due to the illegal firearm, and he paid for his choice with his life...

Cites?

Reports are that he had a license to carry.

Allegedly he did...however, it was not with him at the time...nor was his ID...

MN CHL laws require you have photo ID and your license with you at all times if you are carrying a concealed firearm...

One of the talking points was you didnt need your ID with you, i guess that was debunked?

The Minnesota law is CRYSTAL CLEAR: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/624.714

Quote:

624.714 CARRYING OF WEAPONS WITHOUT PERMIT; PENALTIES.
Subdivision 1.

[Repealed, 2003 c 28 art 2 s 35; 2005 c 83 s 1]
Subd. 1a.Permit required; penalty.

A person, other than a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1, who carries, holds, or possesses a pistol in a motor vehicle, snowmobile, or boat, or on or about the person's clothes or the person, or otherwise in possession or control in a public place, as defined in section 624.7181, subdivision 1, paragraph (c), without first having obtained a permit to carry the pistol is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. A person who is convicted a second or subsequent time is guilty of a felony.

Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.

(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1.



I find it interesting that you cut off your quote right before the part that describes the penalty for carrying a concealed firearm without a permit, so here, I'll give you the whole section to make sure we're all clear on what the Minnesota law says about carrying without the permit.
Quote:

Subd. 1b.Display of permit; penalty.

(a) The holder of a permit to carry must have the permit card and a driver's license, state identification card, or other government-issued photo identification in immediate possession at all times when carrying a pistol and must display the permit card and identification document upon lawful demand by a peace officer, as defined in section 626.84, subdivision 1. A violation of this paragraph is a petty misdemeanor. The fine for a first offense must not exceed $25. Notwithstanding section 609.531, a firearm carried in violation of this paragraph is not subject to forfeiture.
(b) A citation issued for violating paragraph (a) must be dismissed if the person demonstrates, in court or in the office of the arresting officer, that the person was authorized to carry the pistol at the time of the alleged violation.
(c) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder must write a sample signature in the officer's presence to aid in verifying the person's identity.
(d) Upon the request of a peace officer, a permit holder shall disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.

Wait a minute, so you're saying it's a petty misdemeanor with a maximum fine of $25, with mandatory dismissal of citation upon showing that they had a permit at the time of the citation?

In a world where facts mattered, this information would lead to some reassessments...

If people were saying he should have been murdered for not having his permit, you would be correct. But that is not what is happening, so your little "gotcha" is meaningless. He was committing a felony by interfering with law enforcement...while carrying a weapon that he was not complying with the law for carrying (regardless of what type of penalty that entails). The shooting itself appears to have been a tragic mistake caused by the ND of the weapon he was carrying that is known to be defective and capable of such NDs. But the acts precipating the confrontation were all the fault of the dead guy. If he had stayed on the other side of the road to protest or left his gun in the car while heading over to confront the ICE officers, he would almost certainly be alive today.

Exactly...


Oh I thought he was helping a lady that got pushed to the ground. I guess I saw the wrong video.

Well, you were wrong. That happens...try to learn from it. There are actions that occurred outside of the 5 seconds of video you chose to focus on.
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K2-HMFIC said:






WELL last night Local PD and State Troopers showed up to disperse the Anti-ICE bunch raising cain at the Hotel, so just maybe part of the Trump Walz phone call was, if local LEO stepped in he would pull Bovino



"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Bucketrunner said:

If he didn't try to intervene in their arrest of the woman, he would still be alive.

If he stayed at home and didn't protect rapists and murderers, he would still be alive.

If he didn't believe propaganda from the left that preyed on his sensitivities, he would still be alive.

But he didn't.

And he isn't.

And there ends the lesson.


Here is video of the ICE officers interaction with the lady with the orange backpack. What is leading you to conclude that the officer was trying to "arrest" her?

He pushes he to the sidewalk (start of video) then goes and pushes another lady to sidewalk (lady Pretti helps up), meanwhile lady in white walks back over and gets pushed again.

If the officer was trying to arrest her, why did he just keep pushing her??

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I'd wait until an actual news organization reports it.
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TAMUallen said:

Thank goodness we went with football... baseball could have been a bad analogy with pitcher, catcher, reliever, batter, GM etc

Continuing the football analogy, I'll give K2 and his x poster and honorable mention, because Trump is pulling a Jerry Jones by having Homan report directly to him, which is not at all unusual for a Cowboys fan.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

K2-HMFIC said:






WELL last night Local PD and State Troopers showed up to disperse the Anti-ICE bunch raising cain at the Hotel, so just maybe part of the Trump Walz phone call was, if local LEO stepped in he would pull Bovino





looks like someone told Walz that the game is up, we are coming in with some heat now. also looks like the exposing of the local and state officials being part of the resistance organization made them nervous as well. per X posts and FoxNews, some of the local officials (who may be involved) have closed down their X and Facebook accounts. someone is over the target
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That sounds like deflection. If there's massive fraud or non-cooperation, oversight is legitimate , calling it a "document grab" avoids answering the real questions about accountability and transparency.

Minnesota has illegals voting. That's why they don't want to then over their voter rolls.

"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Bovine is rotating out. That's not unusual. He had only recently got up there. This is one where the admin is fine with a false narrative on something that is not unusual.

Homan is going in to give Walz and Frey one last chance. IMO.
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This stuff is all so bonkers that I have to remind myself that this organized crime group has bitten fingers off of feds, they've thrown rocks/bricks, they are showing up armed to operations designed to obstruct the apprehension of child diddlers, they've broken into churches to disturb worship while they deliberately scare/separate children from their parents.

This isn't a case of meemaw walking to the park with a hand written sign to protest against sales taxes being too high on her knitting supplies
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flown-the-coop said:

Bovine is rotating out. That's not unusual. He had only recently got up there. This is one where the admin is fine with a false narrative on something that is not unusual.

Homan is going in to give Walz and Frey one last chance. IMO.

Homan is like bringing in the trained Doberman and German Shepards.... dude means business. I would love for one of the protesters / anarchist soy boys to try and mess with Homan, he would probably whip their arse himself.
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techno-ag said:

If it was a peaceful protest, what was that guy doing carrying a gun?


Exercising the rights to be a gun nut, still protected by our constitution for reasons hilariously missed by MAGA partisans.
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McEnany and Tarlov got the claws out on The Five.

BTW, Tarlov either uses TexAgs for her talking points or they indeed get them all from the same place.

McEnany teaching that lib tard how a lesson right now.
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"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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flown-the-coop said:

McEnany and Tarlov got the claws out on The Five.

BTW, Tarlov either uses TexAgs for her talking points or they indeed get them all from the same place.

McEnany teaching that lib tard how a lesson right now.


Theyre going wild. I don't watch them often but I'm spending time at Grandpa's house for a while so it is my only option and they are animated!
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Has anyone anywhere run cell phone location metadata on these Minnesota protests like they did on some of the earlier stuff during the campaigns?
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Geminiv said:

tylercsbn9 said:

aggrad02 said:

Old Army Ghost said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

I've seen the video. Obstruction is just being there after being ordered to move.

He is clearly out there in the middle of the street waving a car through and not letting another through. He does have a phone in his hand, so he was "filming" too. Multi tasking.

We know how this scheme works. The idea is they have blockers that are to slow down ice movements, while also trailing ice honking horns and lots of whistles as a warning siren.

As presented earlier in the thread, this obstruction isnt random, its coordinated.

The only people that ice intervened with were the 3 in the street. There were obviously dozens others filming the scene


Here is the video, where do you see him "not letting another through"? Which car is he blocking??

The ICE vehicles are all the vehicles on the other side of the street facing the OTHER direction. He is not blocking ICE or any other vehicles.


looked like he attack the lady after he makes the car stop
he was out making trouble and it is good the cops stopped him before he did whatever harm he was trying to do


What is interesting is that news reports that he was shot 9 times, but I heard 10 shots, 1 followed by 9 in close proximity. Do you think it is possible that the gun went off when the ice agent was pulling it out snd that fire caused the other officer to respond? The first shot even sounds different than the next 9.


Look at this video angle, can someone tell if the gun went off in the gray coat ice guys hand cause the other guy to fire at the protestor thinking it was coming from him? (Ignore the x posters opinion on ice, its just a good video angle).





I think the guys gun had some sort of accidental discharge which cause him to get shot. This case seems far, far more likely to be a **** up by ICE than Renee Good.

But as I've said this will happen and will continue to happen with the immense pressure they are under in Minnesota thanks to the politicians up there. These issues aren't prevalent elsewhere which is why we don't see the issues. Waltz and Frey are refusing to assist in any manner (in fact they're fanning flames) which puts both ICE and the protesters in a dangerous situation.

Situations like we've seen with Good and the one today that force these officers to make split second decisions under immense pressure and opposition.


Accidental discharge? Appears the took his weapon and then shots were fired. I know its pointless to argue these points here in 2026 because people are going to see what they want. But bottom line these officers need better training before they are released on the public in a hostile situation. If we had decent adult rational individuals in charge maybe perhaps we could acknowledge that.


By "better training" I assume you mean law enforcement should back out of these dangerous situations before someine gets hurt? LOL! Then no laws get enforced...Maybe the public, specifically protesters, need training on what exactly "peaceful" protest means.
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Dan Carlin said:

techno-ag said:

If it was a peaceful protest, what was that guy doing carrying a gun?


Exercising the rights to be a gun nut, still protected by our constitution for reasons hilariously missed by MAGA partisans.


There is no "right" protected by our constitution to carry a gun while in the commission of a crime. He was violating the law by deliberately interfering with ICE actions and assisting others n doing the same, and as such had no "right" to be armed.
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Squadron7 said:

Has anyone anywhere run cell phone location metadata on these Minnesota protests like they did on some of the earlier stuff during the campaigns?


Haven't seen it but I did see Signal app messages stating how they turned their phones off at times... so the heat is felt and known
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flown-the-coop said:

Bovine is rotating out. That's not unusual. He had only recently got up there. This is one where the admin is fine with a false narrative on something that is not unusual.

Homan is going in to give Walz and Frey one last chance. IMO.


Is this really him just rotating out??

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I wonder how many people Tim Waltz feels have to die to cover up his incredible multi-million dollar fraud. Trump hit the nail on the head on that one,
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I'd doubt that is the case. However, him being on the ground as such a high value target isn't necessary. Plus, who knows what intelligence or threats had been gathered. Even if they say he's on leave, doesnt mean he's on leave in any negative sense
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I'm not in the military or anything similar, but my understanding would be that when you move to new roles you typically are relieved of your old role.

I have no idea if he is being fired. Seems unlikely. Unless he overtly lied up the chain about something.

Mellugin broke the story on inside DHS there being some rumblings of discourse. He would be well connected to know.

I would not read any of this as validation or indication it was a bad shoot. It would be on the handling in the hours after… if anything.

But Trump has a PR issue, so letting it seem like this is more is not a bad thing.
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