Can you link to where a republican said you aren't allowed to carry a gun while protesting? I missed that one.

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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.

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Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?

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They don't have the power to strip constitutional freedoms from legal American citizens. HTH

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What are you saying? That if you are a really, really organized protest movement, it's thus illegal and a criminal conspiracy?

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But is that what was happening in those Signal chats?

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Can you link to where a republican said you aren't allowed to carry a gun while protesting? I missed that one.

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Patel said, "You cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple. You don't have the right to break the law and incite violence."

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He later walked that back and said that he'd only go after people that were inciting violence because someone reminded him that he said something incredibly stupid.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-fbi-director-patels-claim-that-guns-are-barred-at-protests

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Stop derailing the thread. People with deportation orders have exhausted their due process. Thats the extent of their constitutional rights. Stop protecting criminals.

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...I'm responding to questions asked of me. How is that derailing? Put me on mute and move on.

Pretty standard procedure but an update on the shooters

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has placed the federal agents involved in this past weekend’s shooting of 37-year old Alex Pretti in Minneapolis on administrative leave, officials tell the New York Times.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 28, 2026

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Someone - totally not us - reported to the "report ICE activity hotline" that the ICE officer who was forced to take the life of the woman in Minnesota was being "hidden" with his family at a home in Groveland, Massachusetts.

Someone - also totally not us - reported to the "report ICE activity hotline" that the officer who took out the armed "nurse" in Minnesota was being "hidden" with his family at a home in West Newbury, Massachusetts.

We hear there might have been some "confusion" and that the addresses leaked into the "report ICE activity hotline" might have "mistakenly" been the addresses of the individuals who believe it's ok to doxx ICE agents.

Sources on the ground tell us that in the middle of the night... far-left protestors and agitators arrived at said homes in large numbers... blowing whistles, banging pans, laying on horns and demanding they leave MA.

Someone has turned the parasites on themselves

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No comment.

Some movement...

MINNESOTA ARRESTS — I am on the ground in Minneapolis today. Federal agents have arrested 16 Minnesota rioters for allegedly assaulting federal law enforcement — people who have been resisting and impeding our federal law enforcement agents.

We expect more arrests to come.

I’ve…

— Attorney General Pamela Bondi (@AGPamBondi) January 28, 2026

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— Attorney General Pamela Bondi (@AGPamBondi) January 28, 2026

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— Attorney General Pamela Bondi (@AGPamBondi) January 28, 2026

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Someone - totally not us - reported to the "report ICE activity hotline" that the ICE officer who was forced to take the life of the woman in Minnesota was being "hidden" with his family at a home in Groveland, Massachusetts.

Someone - also totally not us - reported to the "report ICE activity hotline" that the officer who took out the armed "nurse" in Minnesota was being "hidden" with his family at a home in West Newbury, Massachusetts.

We hear there might have been some "confusion" and that the addresses leaked into the "report ICE activity hotline" might have "mistakenly" been the addresses of the individuals who believe it's ok to doxx ICE agents.

Sources on the ground tell us that in the middle of the night... far-left protestors and agitators arrived at said homes in large numbers... blowing whistles, banging pans, laying on horns and demanding they leave MA.

Someone has turned the parasites on themselves

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Hard to type coherently through the giggles?

No comment.

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No surprise to anyone here but NBC News coverage of this has been very one sided. Last night they focused almost completely on the Trump team changes and conversations between Homan and Walz, Stephen Miller's comments etc and didn't even mention the CNN story that Pretti had previously been engaged with ICE and broken a rib nor anything about the signal chats and Pretti potentially being a member of those.

If that signal stuff starts to get revealed this story will fade from their broadcast.

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If no one can establish a link between Pretti and the Signal Chat why should they be reporting on the 'potential' of him being in it?

Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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Go back and read some of the discussion about what they were doing and how. This went way beyond just setting up a group chat and talking back and forth about where ICE might be. There was a lot of effort and sophistication in how they were starting new chats every day, limiting participation, using spotters, dispatching people 24/7, etc. It was much more than just a signal chat around an event.

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What are you saying? That if you are a really, really organized protest movement, it's thus illegal and a criminal conspiracy?

This reminds me of the MAGA argument about the 2nd Amendment. Yes you are allowed to have a concealed weapon. Just not when protesting us.

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When it goes from protesting to interfering, its not longer legal.

Thatd what the signal chat is about. Its in the same neighborhood, but with more success, as the proud boys were and they all got locked up for conspiracy to break the law

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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.

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Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?

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So your side won't dox them and harm their families. Pretty simple.

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Why aren't national guard or LEOs concerned with doxxing while wearing their names on their chest and their faces exposed while enforcing immigration policies?

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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.

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Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?

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They don't have the power to strip constitutional freedoms from legal American citizens. HTH

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I suggest you google the Bill of Rights and tell me ICE agents are stripping any of them.

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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.

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Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?

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So your side won't dox them and harm their families. Pretty simple.

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Why aren't national guard or LEOs concerned with doxxing while wearing their names on their chest and their faces exposed while enforcing immigration policies?

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Because international(see Mexican) cartels that have hits on ICE/DHS/etc aren't also putting hits out on soldiers?

The police that finally stepped in after Trump addressed Timmy were certainly wearing face coverings.

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No surprise to anyone here but NBC News coverage of this has been very one sided. Last night they focused almost completely on the Trump team changes and conversations between Homan and Walz, Stephen Miller's comments etc and didn't even mention the CNN story that Pretti had previously been engaged with ICE and broken a rib nor anything about the signal chats and Pretti potentially being a member of those.

If that signal stuff starts to get revealed this story will fade from their broadcast.

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If no one can establish a link between Pretti and the Signal Chat why should they be reporting on the 'potential' of him being in it?

Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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Go back and read some of the discussion about what they were doing and how. This went way beyond just setting up a group chat and talking back and forth about where ICE might be. There was a lot of effort and sophistication in how they were starting new chats every day, limiting participation, using spotters, dispatching people 24/7, etc. It was much more than just a signal chat around an event.

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What are you saying? That if you are a really, really organized protest movement, it's thus illegal and a criminal conspiracy?

This reminds me of the MAGA argument about the 2nd Amendment. Yes you are allowed to have a concealed weapon. Just not when protesting us.

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No, if your organized and conspiring to (and actually do) commit federal crimes, its thus illegal

#BREAKING: Federal agents now doing door-to-door checks in Minneapolis.

— Insider Wire (@InsiderWire) January 28, 2026

BREAKING🚨: Federal agents are actively conducting door-to-door checks across Minnesota's interior — and agitators are largely staying away. This comes after leaks exposed multiple anti-ICE Signal group chats reportedly coordinated by several Minnesota Democrat state officials.… pic.twitter.com/bqfpGHpZwI

— Officer Lew (@officer_Lew) January 28, 2026

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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.

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Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?

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Stop lying, these are not American citizens being deported

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Not true. ICE arrested and then deported Chanthila Souvannarath, to Laos. Souvannarath was born in a refugee camp in Thailand and entered the United States before his first birthday, receiving lawful permanent residence. He became a U.S. citizen as a minor when his father naturalized and gained sole custody of him, meeting all requirements for derivative citizenship under immigration law at the time.

Beyond that, detaining American Citizens without due process (probable cause) is violating their rights.

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No surprise to anyone here but NBC News coverage of this has been very one sided. Last night they focused almost completely on the Trump team changes and conversations between Homan and Walz, Stephen Miller's comments etc and didn't even mention the CNN story that Pretti had previously been engaged with ICE and broken a rib nor anything about the signal chats and Pretti potentially being a member of those.

If that signal stuff starts to get revealed this story will fade from their broadcast.

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If no one can establish a link between Pretti and the Signal Chat why should they be reporting on the 'potential' of him being in it?

Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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Nothing else matters in the exchange of ideas/opinions you are having here until you(we) address the "protest" language you are using.

No, it is not an issue to organize protests on Signal or any other platform (even in a sophisticated manner).

Yes, it is an issue (and illegal) to organize efforts to impede/obstruct LEOs. On Signal, on FB, on darkweb, on email, with smoke signals.

If you believe there is no attempt to obstruct or impede, and the person you are interacting with does, there is no use in talking about anything but that disagreemnt. Any upstream/downstream discussion is useless. You are not going to agree. You will continue engaging in a meaningless discussion. Thank me later.

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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.

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Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?

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So your side won't dox them and harm their families. Pretty simple.

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Why aren't national guard or LEOs concerned with doxxing while wearing their names on their chest and their faces exposed while enforcing immigration policies?

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Because international(see Mexican) cartels that have hits on ICE/DHS/etc aren't also putting hits out on soldiers?

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LEOs are soldiers?

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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.

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Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?

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Which constitutional freedoms of American citizens are being stripped?

As I am sure you know, MOST members of law enforcement have some degree of anonymity.

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....MOST members of law enforcement conduct their job with their face covered in unmarked cars in plain clothes?

I was responding to your quip about why aren't the soldiers masked.

Because soldiers aren't getting hits put out on them by the cartels. ICE/DHS/etc are.

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— 0HOUR1 (@0hour1) January 28, 2026

Burn him Trump! Burn him!

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sounds like chit is fixing to turn on this stupid big mouth mayor... the dude is stupid. As the police union head said, these 2 killings would not have happened if the regular police would have been allowed to control the crowds, yet here we are with the Governor and mayor promoting violence... this mayor has a big mouth

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#BREAKING: Federal agents now doing door-to-door checks in Minneapolis.

— Insider Wire (@InsiderWire) January 28, 2026

BREAKING🚨: Federal agents are actively conducting door-to-door checks across Minnesota's interior — and agitators are largely staying away. This comes after leaks exposed multiple anti-ICE Signal group chats reportedly coordinated by several Minnesota Democrat state officials.… pic.twitter.com/bqfpGHpZwI

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this i dont agree with, they need to be able to target illegals somehow.. I doubt many regular people even come to their doors.

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Furthermore, what is so damning about the Signal chat? It's organized protestors. That happens literally everywhere all the time for any number of like minded individuals. MAGA organized a ton of their 'stop the steal' protests via social media apps.

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I don't believe it is legal to run the license plates of cars of suspected ICE officers using local government resources, and then directing people to stalk those cars.

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Why should ICE officers be able to operate with anonymity? If they're entrusted with the power to strip constitutional freedoms of American citizens, why are they allowed to do so as faceless operatives?

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Here's why. Because their families will be doxxed, and then harrassed and possibly harmed by those you support.

And if you want to blind yourself to that possiblity, it is well documented that the cartels are targeting ICE and CBP officers that they can identify. So even if they aren't targeted by the TDS mob, they will be targeted by the cartels.

Asked and answered. Now let's see if you'll answer a related question. Are you ok with the fact that these agents and their families would be placed in imminent danger by having their identities exposed? Or is it your opinion that it is a hazard that comes with the job?