Ogre09 said:

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Ag98and03 said:

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The one thing nobody has mentioned is this: The 1st Amendment doesn't have an age limit. And it doesn't end at the school door. There have been Supreme Court decisions upholding this.

Student walk out in protest + punishment for walking out = fertile grounds for lawsuit for violating student's 1st amendment rights.

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First amendment rights don't preclude you from mandatory attendance requirements. They also don't allow you to disrupt class.

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Correct.

You mark them absent. Even mark it an unexcused absence where they cannot make up the work.

And they can't be idiots as they walk out.

They still have the first amendment right to go participate in a protest.

I would further say that people on this thread are likely wildly underestimating how pissed off students are about ICE and Trump's draconian tactics. This will cost the GOP dearly for years.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Bull***** These are kids being manipulated by radical adults. They're protesting the removal of violent criminals because the radical adults are lying about what's happening. As always.

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The DEMs, who accuse the Republicans constantly of being Nazis, continue to do their best impressions of Nazis more and more every year. Soon they'll want these kids wearing uniforms with symbols on them against all things Republican and American.

They apparently don't like Israel or Jews, and it's looking more and more like they truly stole a National election already in 2020 from the FBI being able to obtain a warrant to raid the election office in Georgia. They even kill the people with power that don't agree with them (Charllie Kirk, and almost Trump)...Antifa my arse, they are all good with Fascism, Hitler would be proud of them..

I don't care I just thought it was a weird flex. Pretty easy to meet with state reps.

You focused on that and not the other things I said. Guessing your wife didn't teach after Covid.

Why do around 40% leave teaching in the first five years? Maybe they are ill prepared? Maybe they aren't shown reality? It's totally different dealing with parents as the teacher as opposed to the student teacher. Same with setting expectations and building culture.

There are some amazing teachers. A lot of them. Many will tell you they were not prepared for what they faced.

Until they actually have to deal with society and realize it's not all rainbows and greatness. Talk to the legals that worked hard to come here. Most don't care about mass deportation. Neither do many that live in the communities that have to deal with it. It's easy for fat liberal women to stand in their homes and not actually have to deal with the violence in many of these neighborhoods.

Ag98and03 said:

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I would further say that people on this thread are likely wildly underestimating how pissed off students are about ICE and Trump's draconian tactics.

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And who is grooming these useful idiots to their demise?

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Bull***** These are kids being manipulated by radical adults. They're protesting the removal of violent criminals because the radical adults are lying about what's happening. As always.

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Trump admin needs to start flooding the zone that is YouTube shorts and similar. These kids drink info in short clips and if the left can slip in

When need a Call of Duty installation where you are an ICE agent hunting child pedos. Bonus points if you get to out down terrorists like Renee Good and Andrew Pretti.

Leftist have always used their voices much more loudly. Bring their game back to them.

They are way more connected to current events than we were 30-40 years ago. Their phone (which they can't access while in school) expose them constantly through Instagram, TikTok etc. So maybe you are right on the adult-impact / influence on the students but it's way more outside of school than in school. Also, the pucker factor is high in school on what a teacher can even talk about. The state is watching and during campaign season especially, is looking for examples to be made publicly. One parent complaint (valid or invalid) and all hell breaks loose at levels not managed by a district. These discussions / topics don't happen in schools nearly as much as politicians and pundits claim.

Social media is the primary influencer....algorithms. And youth aren't as skeptical as adults.

AggieMac06 said:

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Truancy can't arrest. Where do I run detention for 500 kids? How do you even know who walked out? I have multiple exits and fairly crappy cameras. Yeah we can count them absent but they already don't care. It's a no win. And trust me, I hate this crap too.

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With all due respect, it sounds like a lot of excuses to avoid the difficult task of extra effort towards solving the problem. Sure, you can assume everything is black and white and avoid any potential conflict in the grey area which is the easy way out. Or when faced with a new big problem you address it with new big difficult answers. Blaming legislation for grey areas or mass logistics is b.s. excuses to avoid the solution.

"TEA investigating" is all I needed to see....... Hell, they might well have sent out instructions on how to do it, along with a big, highlighted note about waiting until ADA was set for the day

As sad as it is to admit I agree with the principal who's posting here that there is only so much he can do. I'd venture to guess he's at a suburb type of school as well where respect, and discipline is basically non existent. Many posters here simply don't realize the lack of parent involvement and care for there kids in todays society. I'd venture to guess 65% of all students these days have parents who could care less of any discipline actions assigned to their child. Hence, one reason why our country has gone to *****

IMO one of the easiest ways to stop this type of crap is for the school district to threaten to release all the names/family members of the students caught skipping to ICE. I guarantee that would limit and at least scare many of these kids to protest knowing their family members could get shipped back.

HAYS Buda and Lehman Kyle doing another walkout at 1 at Hays and 2 at Lehman. Saw Lockhart is doing one today also

The ability to peacefully protest is one of the cornerstones of American democracy. I'd say US History/Government teachers would be doing their job if they taught their students how to do this appropriately.

Actually, you can.
You can expel them.

Kids can’t read, and do math proficiently but they are proficient in liberal talking points and protesting! pic.twitter.com/0japfirpUD

— American as Trump (@JoshuaBradner) January 31, 2026

Any school that condoned the walkouts should have Spring Break cancelled. And if it happens after Spring Break, add days to the schedule in May/June.

AustinCountyAg said:

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IMO one of the easiest ways to stop this type of crap is for the school district to threaten to release all the names/family members of the students caught skipping to ICE.

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That's a FERPA no-no.

AggieMac06 said:

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So you pulled your entire faculty from classes to block doors? I have about 65 doors at a 5A campus spread across four buildings. I should leave classes unsupervised to accomplish this? Not possible on my campus. I don't have enough staff to do that and my teachers aren't paid to do that either. I can't physically stop a student trying to leave the building unless there is imminent threat to self or others. Would you suspend 500 kids? Most don't care about that. The fact is school districts don't actually have any real disciplinary teeth that the average kid cares about. Suspension? Meh. ISS? Who cares? That's the challenge we face.

Not saying we have to condone it like it appears AISD might be doing, but we can't stop it if there is a concerted effort.

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Step 1 is changing this right here.

Shocking concept, I know.

Sad that the pool of education candidates is filled with young woman who can't define a woman!

AggieMac06 said:

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The problem is schools can't stop it. We should neither encourage nor condone it. If they want to exercise political voice, they should bear the consequences. As a school administrator though, I can tell you it is impossible to accurately give out consequences for something like this. I cannot feasibly give discipline to 500 kids if they choose to walk out.

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File truancy on them. Once you start hitting momma and daddy in the pocketbook, that crap will stop.

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AustinCountyAg said:

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IMO one of the easiest ways to stop this type of crap is for the school district to threaten to release all the names/family members of the students caught skipping to ICE.

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That's a FERPA no-no.

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I understand that. My point is until the parents start feeling some of the pain personally nothing will change considering the majority of them dont give a crap about raising their child.

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AggieMac06 said:

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The problem is schools can't stop it. We should neither encourage nor condone it. If they want to exercise political voice, they should bear the consequences. As a school administrator though, I can tell you it is impossible to accurately give out consequences for something like this. I cannot feasibly give discipline to 500 kids if they choose to walk out.

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File truancy on them. Once you start hitting momma and daddy in the pocketbook, that crap will stop.

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you'd think but no.

army01 said:

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The ability to peacefully protest is one of the cornerstones of American democracy. I'd say US History/Government teachers would be doing their job if they taught their students how to do this appropriately.

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I've never understood how screaming into the void on a street corner is synonymous with petitioning the government for redress of grievances. The performance protest culture is out of hand and is not what the 1st amendment was even talking about.

LeonardSkinner said:

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As a teacher, I would suggest that it should be handled as an unexcused absence if they don't show up at all, so they wouldn't be able to make up work; and if there are consequences for too many absences (loss of privileges, etc), then those are on the table.
If they walk out, that's skipping, and that comes with its own consequences.

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This guy knows how to handle things! He kept sending Gary Rossington and Ronnie Van Zant home because of their long hair!

Pflugerville and Lockhart had theirs today. Losers

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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army01 said:

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The ability to peacefully protest is one of the cornerstones of American democracy. I'd say US History/Government teachers would be doing their job if they taught their students how to do this appropriately.

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I've never understood how screaming into the void on a street corner is synonymous with petitioning the government for redress of grievances. The performance protest culture is out of hand and is not what the 1st amendment was even talking about.

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I believe you are intentionally omitting the line before redress of grievances -- "the right of the people peaceably to assemble".

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Got 12 A&M students from the College of Ed in my living room now. We should go ask if they're tired of getting woke ideology crammed down their throats by weird af professors. I'd delete my account if even one sided with you.

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They probably think Marxism and LGBTQEIEIO+ ideology is normal and not "woke"...

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backintexas2013 said:

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I will listen to teachers. Not professors or students. Teachers that really know what's going on. The students and profs have no clue.

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And you'd be wrong. My wife spent 10 years in public school before teaching at A&M. And, she's in the classrooms observing her students in the classroom with kids. To write them off is a mistake. You'd also just be cutting off the blood flow of future teachers by telling them they don't matter. That's why we try to arrange for them to meet with local legislators in Austin every year. For what it's worth, they're trying to set up a sit in with Paul Dyson later this month.

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A "sit in" as in a protest?

sad

Truancy is almost impossible to do. Look up the process in Texas. 10 unexcused absences in a 6 month period requirement. This would qualify as 1. Assuming they left 10 different times for 10 protests, the parent faces a civil-misdemeanor penalty of $500. Total. And that's if a court decides this is the case. Hint- rarely if ever happens.

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sad

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What?

Sit in

I didn't know if that's what you meant...

Those happen from time to time in politicians offices.

oldag941 said:

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Truancy is almost impossible to do. Look up the process in Texas. 10 unexcused absences in a 6 month period requirement. This would qualify as 1. Assuming they left 10 different times for 10 protests, the parent faces a civil-misdemeanor penalty of $500. Total. And that's if a court decides this is the case. Hint- rarely if ever happens.

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Hold a pop quiz each day they leave...

Watch the kids with good grades freak out.

Jack c Hays just had theirs and the tax office refused them and they all went to Kyle City Hall. Literally over a thousand kids. Some went all the way but a lot stopped at Sonic and Taco Bell. Lol