The Collective said:

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Where did Iran get cluster bombs? Are they that advanced or Russian assistance?

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I am betting Russia

ttu_85 said:

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jamey said:

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OldArmy71 said:

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I cannot conceive of the resources Iran must have used to build so many missiles and drones. It really is staggering.

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The drones are like $20K, really cheap. A PAC3 missile is in the millions

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Yep bad math. very bad math. We need some new math- or to be more accurate bring back good math. Time to put American innovation to the test. Hunter killer drones, giant tracked multi barreled shot gunesk weapons for low flying drone swarms, Jammers, EMP, microwav emitters. Get creative America. Call the sci-fi writers and get ideas.

What a fun job that would be. The hard part would be getting the cheap components in mass we no longer build and putting together the fabrication we no longer have.

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there are already electro magnetic warfare / electronic warfare weapons which knock down drones

and the IRON BEAM laser was designed to shoot drones down with directed energy

RAMAT TRUMP (Trump Heights) a town in the Golan is now under warning of incoming attack

Senior Israeli official said Israel assesses that Saudi Arabia is likely to carry out a strike in Iran soon, following attacks it sustained yesterday, Israel's public broadcaster Kan News reported.

— Joe Truzman (@JoeTruzman) March 3, 2026

I know ukraine is using helos and slow prop planes to hunt shahed type drones.

As another layer of defense, it seems like a squadron or two of relatively low cost, high performance propeller driven aircraft dedicated to drone defense seems like a no brainer to me

YouBet said:

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jamey said:

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ttu_85 said:

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jamey said:

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OldArmy71 said:

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I cannot conceive of the resources Iran must have used to build so many missiles and drones. It really is staggering.

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The drones are like $20K, really cheap. A PAC3 missile is in the millions

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Yep bad math. very bad math. We need some new math- or to be more accurate bring back good math. Time to put American innovation to the test. Hunter killer drones, giant tracked multi barreled shot gunesk weapons for low flying drone swarms, Jammers, EMP, microwav emitters. Get creative America. Call the sci-fi writers and get ideas.

What a fun job that would be. The hard part would be getting the cheap components in mass we no longer build and putting together the fabrication we no longer have.

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We've been watching the drone war in Ukraine developing for years. Id hope we're ahead of the curve but it doesnt seem like it

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Makes sense though. Ongoing action in a theater of war requires you to adapt and improve on the fly, constantly. Good thing here is that we can leapfrog the tech several generations at once.

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Its a very slow process though thats encumbered by government oversight requirements.

Perhaps someone like Anduril who bypasses much of the process by developing weapons on their own dime has a foot in the door

BULLSEYE

Surreal scenes after an airstrike targeting an #Iran regime #IRGCterrorists building. Documents, labeled top secret, are scattered all over the place. If you look closely one of the documents references the Shahid Babaei Group, subordinate to SPND.
pic.twitter.com/MqkBySSkFt

— Jason Brodsky (@JasonMBrodsky) March 3, 2026

The Fall Guy said:

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The Collective said:

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Where did Iran get cluster bombs? Are they that advanced or Russian assistance?

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I am betting Russia

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One correction- these are not cluster BOMBS

they are multiple warheads on ballistic missiles being fired into Tel Aviv

obviously Iran has no Air Force anymore that could drop a bomb on Israel.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-us-strikes-hit-building-of-body-set-to-elect-new-iran-supreme-leader-iranian-reports/

Making sure no supreme leaders can be added

Appreciate the correction there. Words do matter.

notice the idiot Islamic Republic true believers crying in the foreground

A building belonging to the "Assembly of Experts" has been just leveled in Qom, #Qom Province, #Iran
https://t.co/PeWNK7YJjH pic.twitter.com/8gN4o6wlXl

— Shin (@hey_itsmyturn) March 3, 2026

Iran strategically invested the majority of their military budget into missiles as for them at least that is the most effective thing they could do and matches up well for them as far as their needs/objectives go:

1) They are offensive in nature, and allow them to spread their terror throughout the region
2) They know they would effectively lose all air/ground forces in any sort of conflict with the US/Israel within the first few days of any conflict
3) Their country is large and they don't really fear a ground invasion, so no need for a large amount of heavy ground equipment like tanks, APCs, etc.
4) Allows them to easier hide and blend in throughout the country
5) Cheaper than tanks and planes (plus minimal maintenance costs)

I think given a few more years, they would have further advanced and shifted into drone warfare as that is a good match for them as well for similar reasons.

bonfarr said:

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This is a common misconception driven by propaganda. The U.S. now has APKWS which runs $15,000/missile and we can produce 25,000 per year on existing lines. Shahed drones cost Iran $35,000 per unit on average. https://t.co/UqLJFQml5t

— CXCarroll (@CXCarroll) March 2, 2026

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Not the same thing.

bonfarr said:

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This is a common misconception driven by propaganda. The U.S. now has APKWS which runs $15,000/missile and we can produce 25,000 per year on existing lines. Shahed drones cost Iran $35,000 per unit on average. https://t.co/UqLJFQml5t

— CXCarroll (@CXCarroll) March 2, 2026

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So one guy says, as i said above that Iran has more cheap drones than we have expensive defense missiles.

And he replies, we have some cheap non defensive missiles too

I think he missed the point

House Speaker Johnson now say regime change is not the objective. May soon need to vote on providing billions of dollars more to fund the operation.

"Johnson pushed back on assertions that the campaign seeks to topple Iran's government. "The objective was not regime change," he said. "The objective was to take out those missiles, the short- and mid-range missiles and their ability to produce them."

WAR

Opening Hormuz is important to everyone ... but particularly to China. About 40% of China's total oil imports pass through Hormuz. But we're also waching a high stakes chess game. China calls "check" with their rare-earth policy ... the US calls "check" with a potentially new Venezuela/Iran policy.

Not for taking out ballistic missiles but for drone defense it matters.

Qatar attacked Iran in the past 24 hours, Israel's channel 12 news reported. pic.twitter.com/ilvR6oNIQd

— Joe Truzman (@JoeTruzman) March 3, 2026

nortex97 said:

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The Fall Guy said:

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The Collective said:

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Where did Iran get cluster bombs? Are they that advanced or Russian assistance?

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I am betting Russia

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They and the Houthi proxies used cluster munitions warheads last year, almost assuredly domestically produced. Not really the highest tech stuff, imho.

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Cluster bonbs is old tech, I thought I read somewhere Iran was using it in their ballistic missiles so you have about 50 munitions to intercept in the terminal phase instead of 1 ( kinda like an MIRV? )

Who?mikejones! said:

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Qatar attacked Iran in the past 24 hours, Israel's channel 12 news reported. pic.twitter.com/ilvR6oNIQd

— Joe Truzman (@JoeTruzman) March 3, 2026

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At this point, do other countries attacking Iran actually help? Seems like piling on a carcass to get brownie points.

YouBet said:

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74OA said:

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House Speaker Johnson now say regime change is not the objective. May soon need to vote on providing billions of dollars more to fund the operation.

"Johnson pushed back on assertions that the campaign seeks to topple Iran's government. "The objective was not regime change," he said. "The objective was to take out those missiles, the short- and mid-range missiles and their ability to produce them."

WAR

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Trump's objectives that he outlined on Monday and widely reported. Regime change was not explicitly an objective by the US. Now, our objectives below obviously lead to a fantastic opportunity for the Iranians to get this over the finish line which Trump also had repeatedly said. Thus, we gave them a "nudge", if you will, and now the locals have to finish the job.

- Destroying Iran's missile capabilities (including nuclear missile capabilities and ballistic missile programs).
- Annihilating (or eliminating) its Navy.
- Preventing the country from obtaining a nuclear weapon (stopping its nuclear pursuits and ensuring it couldn't build or deploy one).
- Stopping Iran from arming, funding, and directing terrorist groups outside its borders (disrupting its support for proxies and terrorist activities).

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.........which is apparently why Johnson felt the need to emphasize that point.

Yes. Because they don't care what gets hit, goal is a terror weapon. Was used against ben gurion airport last fall too.

Do i think it helps- marginally

Do i think it is good- undoubtedly

aggiedata said:

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Typical cowards

Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesman held a televised press briefing from a classroom in Tehran pic.twitter.com/T0HDHjSCV3

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) March 3, 2026

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Surprised Mossad hasn't deployed microphones with hidden explosives yet.

bonfarr said:

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Not for taking out ballistic missiles but for drone defense it matters.

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The APKWS does not appear to be for drone defense. Its just a cheap missile used against lightly armored targets