Politico hit piece on Vance

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BusterAg
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Honestly, it just makes me like Vance more.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2026/02/17/jd-vance-ready-to-run-the-world-00785096

If this is the best swing to take at Vance, he is going to be a force to be reckoned with.

Politico says that he is:

1) More ideological than Trump. I think that this is meant to be a swing. It isn't. It is actually a good thing, and highlights the fact that Vance probably has more raw intelligence than Trump, and likely by a large factor.

2) Is very isolationist, and foreign leaders don't like dealing with him. Um, Good Vance, and Good Vance.

3) He is "determined to change the grand strategy of the US". This is America First, working class Americans at the front of that line.

Trump has that weird aura about him that, while he is a huge narcissist, he can relate day-to-day with the everyman. He called his gardener for crying out loud to talk about whether or not to name Vance as VP.

But, Vance IS the everyman. The Rolling Stones tried to depict him as upper middle class, but, the reality is, most of the money that Vance had growing up came from Grandma's government checks. He made a name for himself with hard work, determination, and some daring (to write his first book). He relates to the working man because that is where he grew up.

And he's really freaking smart.
And he is eloquent.
And he successfully makes fun of people for saying stupid things.
And he successfully talks down to people that ask stupid and / or loaded questions.

Policy wise, I think that Trump and Vance are likely close, with maybe less worry about the trade deficit from Vance.

And if this Politico piece is any indication on how to try and attack him, it's not looking good for the Dems in 2028.
deddog
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All this means is that USAID has started doling out money again.
deddog
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Released a day or two after JD highlights the stupidity of democrat darling AOC. Co-incidence? I think not.
BTKAG97
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Only to an ignorant leftist does "America First" equate to "Isolationist".
TAMUallen
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Theyre trying to get a very early jump on narratives to push.

I'm thinking more and more that Vance is definitely the guy we want
boulderaggie
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Same. He's basically Trump without the negatives that give folks TDS.
nortex97
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Next they will tell me he is fond of dogs.

Politico is a shill leftist rag. I think it's still owned by KKR-owned Axel Springer. They own Bild as well, which is basically a tabloid from what I have ever read.
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That won't matter...they'll swallow the next batch of lies just as readily as they did since Trump came down the escalator
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The only real concern I have with Vance is his proximity to the Silicon Valley technocrats, but other than that I am very optimistic about him succeeding Trump as the leader of the America First movement.
boulderaggie
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He's going to give them "VD" - Vance Derangement!
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boulderaggie said:

Same. He's basically Trump without the negatives that give folks TDS.


I can't wait till we hear how he's a racist wealthy white man from a leading democrat who knows nothing
JWinTX
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The problem that politico and other Pravda outlets have is that the only people that absorb their stupidity are libs. Nobody watches or reads that junk from the middle or right, at least not in the numbers they need. Look, Vance is their version of Stalin. They think Trump is awful, but they know that their bigger nightmare is looming. vance is someone that had a great movie made about him, a book and movie that speaks to people the Dems not only lost, but that they left behind. Vance is a family man, a Catholic that loves God and loves America. And he doesn't need to go on social media to stir the pot or to go on filibusters with the media to talk about his greatness, like the current President has done. Basically, he's Trump without the massive ego.

Vance is also the best debater I've ever seen since Reagan. He runs a master class in how to debate libs, answer their media's questions, and turn it all around to make his points clear and relatable. Ted Cruz is the only person I've ever watched from the GOP side that has been even in the conversation with Vance. He is the left's real problem. If he gets elected, that's probably 8 years of conservative, America-first leadership. So don't be surprised if he gets the Trump treatment from them--meaning, watch out for assassination attempts.
TheRatt87
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Trying to keep track... will Vance be Hitler 3.0 or 4.0?
CDUB98
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A hit piece on a Republican you say? Sounds like a Wednesday.
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boulderaggie said:

Same. He's basically Trump without the negatives that give folks TDS.

Exactly. He's pretty much my dream president. For all the good Trump has done, he still sabotages himself to much, or commits unforced errors. Vance doesn't effing miss. And he is far more conservative.
Gnome Sayin
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Gotta villainize him now before next election. Worse than hitler.
Gnome Sayin
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Then of course you have to go after the next republican guy as well. Also Also worse than hitler.
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Gnome Sayin said:

Gotta villainize him now before next election. Worse than hitler.


Hitler is JV versus Vance's varsity.
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If Trump is followed by some combination of Vance/Rubio/DeSantis all working together for 8 years they can truly fix this country. The window is there.
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aggie93 said:

If Trump is followed by some combination of Vance/Rubio/DeSantis all working together for 8 years they can truly fix this country. The window is there.

How in the world do we get all 3 of these guys in the White House at the same time?

It's too much to ask, but would be awesome.
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He must be solid if OM hates him, and if I didn't have the ability to think for myself, that might be enough of a reason on its own to vote for JD.


I think the only thing that could derail him is if he somehow pisses off Trump. I believe he's too smart for that.
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WinTheWholeDamnThing
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I still have my hangups witn Vance. His background is extremely suspect, he is essentially an artifice and creation of Peter Thiel and did a complete 180 on Trump after being a big never Trumper. He is married to an Indian (not a problem in and of itself, BUT)- these lead me to believe he's not going to do much of anything to reverse the H1B abuse and mass immigration.
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Whoever is in charge doesn't matter. Our colossal debt will determine our destiny.
Username checks out.
MelvinUdall
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Fair. At this point, I prefer Rubio over Vance, but I am good with either one.
WinTheWholeDamnThing
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I don't love it. Feels like we're sliding back into the pre-Trump GOP. I still remember when Trump blasted Rubio for being a swamp creature in the pocket of the Adelsons. Waiting for a true, Trumpian America First successor to emerge. I'm not so sure the answer is Vance and/or Rubio. Feels extremely GOP status quo to me.
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BTKAG97 said:

Only to an ignorant leftist does "America First" equate to "Isolationist".

the same way deporting criminals = holocaust / gestapo / nazi / fascism



their hyperbolic rhetoric and propagandist lies are intentional Marxist tactics and unfortunately it works too well on far too many low IQ useful idiots who still vote for the socialist democrat party
Im Gipper
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Quote:

in the pocket of the Adelsons.

How the turn tables have turned.


I'm Gipper
StoneCold99
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If you haven't yet, you should read Hillbilly Elegy. Even better, listen to it with his narration.
e=mc2
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Vance/Rubio
Vance/DeSantis
Rubio/DeSantis
DeSantis/Rubio


I'd be thrilled with any of these combos. Don't see Vance serving as a VP again.
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WinTheWholeDamnThing said:

I still have my hangups witn Vance. His background is extremely suspect, he is essentially an artifice and creation of Peter Thiel and did a complete 180 on Trump after being a big never Trumper. He is married to an Indian (not a problem in and of itself, BUT)- these lead me to believe he's not going to do much of anything to reverse the H1B abuse and mass immigration.

1) When did Peter Thiel discover Vance? Before or after Hillbilly Eulogy?

2) What exactly do you dispute about Vance's past? The overall story, that he was mostly raised by his grandmother while his mom was strung out on drugs? Or is there some other minutiae that you are hung up on?

3) He had a throw-away quote about Trump in his book that was satirical. How else was he a Never Trumper? You do know that the courtship between Trump and Vance took quite a while, no?

4) Your comment about Vance and H1B's is racist, and not bound in fact. Do you believe that ALL Indian's are defensive of H1B abuse?

5) Are you aware that Vance has come out very strongly about secure borders, and calls the immigration into Europe from the ME to be a tragedy?

I am most interested in any facts you might have about Vance / Thiel. This is the first I have heard from this connection.
BusterAg
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e=mc2 said:

Vance/Rubio
Vance/DeSantis
Rubio/DeSantis
DeSantis/Rubio


I'd be thrilled with any of these combos. Don't see Vance serving as a VP again.

I want Vance / Rubio with DeSantis as head of the DOJ, or maybe head of the FBI with a mandate to:

1) Clean house; and
2) Investigate NGO fraud.

A man can dream, no?
shiftyandquick
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He's a social engineer at this core who is created by and propped up by his billionaire benefactors. There isn't a conservative bone in his body, but you already knew that.
AgGrad99
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I would very much prefer Rubio as the nomination. He is extremely impressive and would communicate very well to the public. He's come a very long way.

But if Vance is going to run, I'm ok with Vance/Rubio.

Let's say Vance declines to run, and Rubio is the front-runner. I can't see him picking DeSantis as a running mate, since they're both from Florida. But DeSantis as a high-profile cabinet member would be great.
CDUB98
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I see someone still hasn't returned to show their work.
AgGrad99
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shiftyandquick said:

He's a social engineer at this core who is created by and propped up by his billionaire benefactors. There isn't a conservative bone in his body, but you already knew that.

Right?

That whole coming from poverty, and serving in the Marines...along with completing OhState in 2.5 years with honors and getting into Yale Law is just a big ole billionaire funded fake resume'.

Glad you see it too.
 
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